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Most American 'recipes' aren't really recipes, are they? They're assembly instructions.

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MaMight · 28/02/2010 18:30

I've just found a recipe for Pineapple Upsidedown Cake; ingredients list - 1X plain cake donuts, 1X can pineapple slices.

I suspect there must be a massive swathe of American cooking that I have yet to discover.

(And 'pie filling' is not an ingredient.)

(And neither is 'pizza sauce'. WTF?)

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ilovemydogandmrobama · 01/03/2010 12:11

Are you kidding people as far as what passes for a salad bar in the UK? Must be smeared in mayonnaise.

At least in the US, there's Mexican food, which can be very healthy (minus the tortilla chips)

Have a look at Baja Fresh. Yum

Kewcumber · 01/03/2010 12:21

that white cake is indeed freaky. The Albino of the baking world. How do you actually cook a cake in a real oven and keep it that white?

expatinscotland · 01/03/2010 12:38

Oh, god, you had to go and mention Baja Fresh around lunchtime!

Or California Pizza Kitchen.

Or Tommy Tsunami's Sushi bar.

Or Whole Foods, Chipotle, Swing Thai or Noodles & Co.

WHY, ilove, WHY, WHY, WHY?!

31 days till I get to eat some decent food in a restaurant that doesn't cost £50 for two people.

NorkyButNice · 01/03/2010 12:50

I ate some of the best food of my life whilst living in New York for 2.5 years. Agree with whoever said that Indian and Chinese food isn't anything like in the UK but I'm sure it's more authentically like it would be in the home country.

Buyig decent ingredients in the supermarket is much more expensive in the US though - organic meat and "healthy" produce is really pricey.

GrimmaTheNome · 01/03/2010 13:25

Of course its wrong to generalise about american food; we found it pretty dire in Pennsylvania but have had good stuff in Boston and fantastic in California. This applies to ethnic foods too -e.g. PA 'italian' seemed dominated by heavy meatballs or 'toasted ravioli' (ew) in nasty tomato sauce, whereas in CA it would be absolutely wonderful.

mathanxiety · 01/03/2010 16:10

Fruit and veggies are really bland and tasteless in the US even meat is strangely 'watered down', ime. I thought I might have damaged my tastebuds for many years until I had a conversation with Russian friends about how horrible American mushrooms were. They had lived on a Soviet Union diet all their lives, and they were very disappointed by American food. And my DCs talked for years about the delicious pork chops and chicken they had when back in Ireland 'We could taste the food ' It wasn't my cooking; I did the cooking in Ireland, just the basic ingredients. Factory farming in the US is to blame.

That being said, decent food has had a huge revival in the US, even from the 80s, but it is sold as an upmarket attraction, and priced accordingly. However, there have always been good, basic bibles like the Settlement Cookbook (first published 1901) -- I bought a 1976 edition second hand and have never come across a recipe calling for cans of this or that; if there's one in there, I have missed it. The Joy of Cooking edition that I have has recipes for home canning of veggies, as well as skinning, preparing and cooking a squirrel (complete with diagram for skinning)... Something for everyone.

The cookbooks I love from the US are the New York Times Cookbook, by Craig Claiborne, Julia Child's Mastering the Art of French Cooking, as well as countless recipes from Gourmet, Bon Appetit and Food and Wine mags, plus cooks like Lydia Bastianich for nice Italian. But sadly, I think I'm in the minority as far as cooking from scratch goes; most of my DCs' friends have never even tasted home made mac & cheese.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2010 17:13

I must have lived in some parallel universe for 31 years . . .

I have to travel with bottles of chile sauce here, I'm so often ambushed by food that would better suit an invalid.

dooneygirl · 01/03/2010 17:34

Ok, I've been watching this thread with a bit of amusement, and really not commenting because, for the most part, a lot of what has been said on here is embarrassingly correct.

However, I thoroughly disagree with abride's sweeping general statement that Americans don't cook. Yes, most of us eat crap, but some of us actually still cook. I (as a member of the white middle class) make my own bread, yogurt, turkey stock, spaghetti sauce, cakes, puddings, etc. While it is true that I get a lot of odd looks or comments for doing so, there are a few people I know that are as passionate about getting good food and doing these things as I am. And they aren't my fellow SAHM friends, but those who work outside the home, the so called "professional" women.

SerenityNowakaBleh · 01/03/2010 17:42

I haven't had personal experience, so couldn't comment. BUT - My dad's just been over to stay in the Deep South and my cousin made him something called "Low Country Boil" (the name itself is boak-worthy). Apparently it's crabs, prawns, potatoes and corn all boiled together and then eaten off a table. Eugh.

ilovemydogandmrobama · 01/03/2010 17:45

Going home for a visit, expat? Oh, the salad bar at Whole Foods! Would like to import that, Baja Fresh, and Jamba Juice.

Brought back anchos, chipotles, and a few others.

expatinscotland · 01/03/2010 18:16

yes! am going back to visit.

jamba juice YES!

can't wait to go to a decent restaurant.

Miggsie · 01/03/2010 18:38

Americans don't seem to be able to do veg without adding sugar...when I was over there I was served coleslaw that had sugar in it

MmeLindt · 01/03/2010 18:42

Actually, one of the best cooks that I know is American. My neighbour is a lawyer from Nebraska and he is an incredible cook. We were invited for Thanksgiving and I have never tasted turkey like it, the stuffing was to die for and the gravy. OMG.

They have told me that they miss the authentic ethnic food, particularly Mexican.

Bleenherbe · 01/03/2010 18:45

I think it really depends where in America you go. The food in New York ...

Bleenherbe · 01/03/2010 18:46

And some Southern stuff - bscuits, yum....

2Eliza2 · 01/03/2010 18:46

Abride has a point:

oilandgarlic.wordpress.com/2009/08/01/why-americans-dont-cook/

I've had American women friends tell me they don't cook: they just eat out.

sarah293 · 01/03/2010 19:00

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Bleenherbe · 01/03/2010 19:02

Cheese really depehs where you are - v good cheese in New England. Hard to buy anything other than processed cheese in Louisiana - you cannot generalise about the whole country ime.

Bleenherbe · 01/03/2010 19:02

"depends"

sarah293 · 01/03/2010 19:05

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Bleenherbe · 01/03/2010 19:08

Ah, there are some scary places over there, Riven. Not helped by supermarkets full of block after block of processed cheese....
I do like thsoe mad cheese balls they do though, where you mix a bunch of cheese with garlic and parsley or other bobs and sods, then roll it all in nuts or parsley. And there was something called chutter and various strongs cheese spreads...
Velveeta though was a very strange thing...

Bleenherbe · 01/03/2010 19:09

Ooh and Cheeze Whiz, that's an odd thing.

sarah293 · 01/03/2010 19:13

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mathanxiety · 01/03/2010 19:33

Low Country cuisine is delicious, very authentic, and uses the shellfish, rice, beans, and vegetables and other local ingredients of the region. It's pretty much identified with 'slave food', easy to prepare, filling, requiring no special ovens or equipment. 'Low Country boil' may sound unappetising, but tis actually really nice. Imo.

A good deal of traditional, regional American cooking is very good indeed.

expatinscotland · 02/03/2010 00:26

oh gah, i can't wait to speak patois Cajun and have boiled crawfish and suck the heads! all salty. and some catfish. and whatever the Cajun neighbour down the street hunted with his bow and arrow and cooked in his pit in his backyard and what he's grown in his garden.

and some damn gumbo, collard greens, fried okra and cornbread with coffee made over chickory fire so you can taste the chickory in your cup and cane sugar to sweeten.

for DH to go to Papa's barber, Gonzolo, Papa will translate, Gonzolo doesn't speak English and nor do his staff.

a pollo gordita in Fiesta, in little Centro America where people try to sell you chicle in the car park, or TVs or clothes or hubcaps or just whatever. buy the girls embroidered oaxaca dresses in the patio outside the shop and huarches to wear in the heat.

to the Middle Eastern quarter to speak French to the Moroccans, their beautiful French, and order the baba ganoush and the falafel and listen to the radio as we eat and sip mint tea.

then go to the ballet that night, in the theatre built just for the ballet, one of the best in the nation.

i remember being in my last year in high school, in our mandatory World Area Studies class, and an Israeli man asked to speak to the class (a Palestinian as well, many others, too).

and his starting his speech with, 'I can't really speak now because I'm about to weep. I have counted at least 7 different races in here as you all sat down, but no one is fighting. Quite the contrary? Do you all know how lucky you are?'

this is in Houston, TX, population 4m, and that's probably not counting those who are not legal, and guess again if you think they all have brown faces.

now come and tell me 300m+ of them don't know how to fecking cook?!