Can you recommend an English Jewish cookbook?

[PrettyCandles]

I need a kosher cookbook with English recipes. I luurve Claudia Roden, but she's not quite what I'm looking for right now, and I just don't seem to get on with Evelyn Rose - nothing I make from her book comes out right.

Any suggestions?

Oh pretty candles - i don't know about english but claudia roden - that book with all the history in it is just a fab fab book!! Please tell me what kind of cuisine/recipes you're looking for and i may be able to sugest somehting esel?

oh, I was about to suggest the Claudia Roden book! Let me know if you find anything else good

Essentially I want pareve recipes. We're having to go dairy-free here at the Candelabrum, and although I'm a dab hand at baking dairy-free cakes I'm not so hot at other things. I was hoping to find ways of making dairy-free versions of common foods (quiches, pancakes, desserts etc) and to get some guidance on how to convert recipes myself.

What about this?

www.oukosher.org/index.php/recipes/viewrecipes/C195/

and this looks good

www.amazon.co.uk/How-Cook-Like-Jewish-Grandmother/dp/1589802152/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=12148 23828&sr=8-7

PC - do tell me more? What's the candelabrum and what are you doing there?
I thought I knew who you were but may now be making a mistake? Did we meet up a few yearrs back ?

LOL I am who you think I am.

The Candelabrum is just my pretentious way of describing the PrettyCandles household: dh and I have three pretty candles, where do you put pretty candles? In a candelabrum of course! Tho' as I named myself after the Hannukah candles perhaps I should call our household the Hannukiah...I would like more children, but I doubt dh would co-operate.

I have an old edition of The Complete Jewish Cookbook edited by Anne London and Bertha Kahn Bishov. It's from 1972 (!) and I got it from a second hand bookshop - it belonged to the lady who ran it who had just bought the updated version. It's fab - got loads of great recipes and references, you might be able to pick up a 2nd hand version cheaply.

Ooh prettycandles - i do like your set up - 3 pretty candles in a candelabra - hope its a silver one . but how come you're asking for pareve recipes? Ddin't think you were kosher or have you started keepoing milk/meat? If i'm being way too nosy just yell?

Sterling!

I'd love to be able to keep kosher, but that's one step too far for my dh. At the risk of sounding arrogant, I wouldn't need a cookbook for that - I was brought up kosher.

I need pareve recipes for dairy-free cooking. Although dh and ds1 don't need to eat dairy-free, it would be much easier just to make the whole household essentially dairy-free.

Sorry for being nosey! Hmmm - pareve recipes - the Lubavitch cookbook is good - has massive sections no dairy free cooking and also dairy cooking and meat cooking.

I tend to do pareve recipes like dahl and rice, barley soup ( but wiht tons of differnet veg for variety and the barley really bulks it and the kids out!) which I serve with baguette and margarine ( pareve) and also you can get nice Tivall burgers/patties which are pareve and based on soya - like soya burgers really but they are quite tasty and not filled wti hadditives and nasties - quite healthy. I do those with mash and veg - that type of thing.

More recipes would be a nice bean chilli and rice- the kids like this as i don't make it spicy - you can use whatever beans you have in the house but I find butter beans and borlotti beans go down the best as they are soft and easily chewed. I can post the reicpe if you like . Veg curry I make sometimes too and you can use mayo to thicken it instead of cream ( there's a top kosher tip for adapting meat recipes to exlude the dairy ) - for your purposes though you would'nt put meat either. i use fairly chunky veg here to provide protein/good carbs to fill them up like potatoes, sweet potatoes,yams etc.

If your household eats fish i also have a great fish curry recipe suitable for kids....

Hope that helps.....

I love Tival stuff, but have to find a local source. Or else do a long-distance bulk shopping trip with iceblocks. (I miss London!)

Beans and lentils are, unfortunately, something of a pain. Ds1 won't touch them, and dd is starting to copy him. Otherwise I'd use them a lot - I used to make barley soup, too.

Do you know wether there is such a thing as a dairy-free quiche recipe?

BTW, thanks for the mayonnaise tip!

BTW, I'm not offended. It's not something I get to talk about much.

Where are you pc now? I didn't know you'd moved from London?
Dairy free quiche - hmmm. What would you use instead of cheese? I suppose you could use veggie cheese but as i 've never used it I'm not sure whether it would mix well. there is a thread ( can't do links - sorry) on MN today on veggie meal planning which had some really great ideas - risotto etc. Have a look there too.

i have a couple of books at home

one is by the Chief Rabbi's wife - we got it when we married and is lovely

i also have a very old fashioned one called "the way to a man's heart"

for pareve stuff, some bigger supermarkets stock a fair range

this place delivers kosher food nationwide - am sure they stock pareve stuff

Lisa - your mayo tip is FAB!!!

I know Rubyslippers - I hvae plenty more "tips" like that too - borne of determination and desparation!!!

will consult my recipe books and let you know

a favourite of mine is cinammon balls whcih is a Passover recipe but nice all year round
(it has no flour in)

i have posted the recipe on MN as it happens

orthodox jews don't mix meat and milk so any dessert must be either milky or parave (neither meat or milk). she can explain this to the class and then bring in some yummy parave biscuits, google-parave cookie recipes for lots of ideas. she could also explain that on passover jews eat cakes and biscuits made without wheatflour, again google is great for ideas (search kosher for pesach recipes).On rosh hashana, the new year, they eat foods with apple and honey, for a sweet new year. on shabbat, the sabbath (saturday) religious jews get together with friends and family and eat a big festive meal, usually meaty (like christmas, but every week!) since no cooking can be done on shabbat all of friday is spent preparing lots of yummy cakes and biscuits. hope this helps!

When I was a child we had separate meat and milk crockery and cutlery, as well as cooking pans. But as each individual meal would have been either meat or milk (or pareve, of course) we didn't separate the washing-up. When my even more religious grandmother came to stay, we had to buy washing-up bowls and new scourers etc of different colours, one for 'meat' washing up, and one for 'milk'.

It sounds complex, but when you live with it isn't.

Even now, and I don't keep kosher, I don't put a cheese sauce on a mince dish, or serve ice-cream after a roast dinner. It seems perfectly natural to me. In fact, serving Swedish Glace (which is a dairy-free 'ice-cream') after a meat meal feels weird and somehow wrong. After all my mind thinks it's dairy, even if it isn't.

i have two sets of china and cutlery but not pans

i don't mix milk and meat at home, so wouldn't make a lasagne for example

i know quite a few people who have separate ovens, sinks, dishwashers etc ...