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Can you recommend an English Jewish cookbook?

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PrettyCandles · 30/06/2008 10:21

I need a kosher cookbook with English recipes. I luurve Claudia Roden, but she's not quite what I'm looking for right now, and I just don't seem to get on with Evelyn Rose - nothing I make from her book comes out right.

Any suggestions?

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lulumama · 07/07/2008 12:23

judaism is not anti female, women are exempt from a number of religious mitvot ( things you are supposed to do )

the hair covering is so that only your H sees your crowning glory, it is actually more of a sensual thing than a hiding away thing

a lot of judaism revolves around family and home life and matriarchs
there were the matriachs - sarah, rebecca, leah and someone else! aswell as the patriarchs in the bible.

stripey.... a lot of orthodox jews use toilet paper on the sabbath that is already in sections so you don;t have to tear it.

not all very religious jews will go as far as your family re not having food that has been touched by a non jew or someone not religious. in fact, i have not really come across that, and we have 2 rabbis in our family!

lulumama · 07/07/2008 12:23

the reason women don't count is not that women are not important but that their role within the family is deemed more important, so they don;t need to be obliged to be in synagogue when they could be with their family

WilliamGray · 07/07/2008 12:24

ah well i am AGAINST women havign to cover themsleves for any reason

lulumama · 07/07/2008 12:25

well, good job you weren;t born an orthodox jew then !

my cousin has several different sheitels ( wigs) they are gorgeous! she has a bob, a gamine sort of cut and a long party sheitel. it is not about looking less nice or looking dowdy.

WilliamGray · 07/07/2008 12:26

its abotu confomring to a mans idea though.
anwyay am nto going to start a row onit
have to go outt.

themildmanneredjanitor · 07/07/2008 12:27

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lulumama · 07/07/2008 12:29

i don;t want to row about it. you asked a question men also cover their heads as a mark of respect in front of god.

it is not about conforming to a man;s ideal, it is about keeping your sensuality for your husband

RubyRioja · 07/07/2008 12:34

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PussinJimmyChoos · 07/07/2008 12:35

I cover my hair because I want to - am not forced in anyway!! Its between myself and God and that's it! Am not Jewish, am Muslim, but there are a lot of similarities between the two religions...contrary to popular belief!

Cannot believe a thread about Kosher cooking has turned into a covering issue! Cod - stop stirring!!

themildmanneredjanitor · 07/07/2008 12:36

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lulumama · 07/07/2008 12:38

my religious female cousins would not have been expected to be covered up until age 12, so they would have worn a sundress or a t shirt and skirt in the sun, still modest and not a bathing suit on a public beach / pool, but not in thick wooly stuff either. a lot of the time, each family or community will have different ideals and rules based on their levels of observance.

lulumama · 07/07/2008 12:40

hi pussIJC!

themildmanneredjanitor · 07/07/2008 12:41

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RubyRioja · 07/07/2008 12:44

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PussinJimmyChoos · 07/07/2008 12:45

MMJ - Saudi takes it too far imo. Also, non related men are not supposed to be uncovered in front of women so they shouldn't have been in swim suits in front of the women either. Its cultural more than religious and it really gets on my t*ts as it makes women look unequal. There are also separate beaches for men and women so women can (and do!) get to go to the beach and not have to cover up.

Also, there is nothing in Islam that says you have to wear black for day to day life! I certainly don't - I have bright pink and purple headscarves! Am a funky Muslim babe!

RubyRioja · 07/07/2008 12:48

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PussinJimmyChoos · 07/07/2008 13:00

Ruby - am I your friend by any chance?? lol! I do the same thing! I don't cover when I'm going to work as the area that the stupid place has relocated too is really redneck and dare I say it....ok, chav.. and I just feel really scared of being covered there!

Its not right for me to pick and choose when I am covered and I know that. However,in Islam, you can put your safety first and that's what I'm doing. Its a shame really that if I wanted to walk in the same area with a short skirt and my baps hanging out, no-one would bat an eyelid, but the sight of a white person in headscarf is !!

I do however, wear it outside of work all the time.

RubyRioja · 07/07/2008 13:17

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PrettyCandles · 07/07/2008 14:21

I find it frustrating that non-Jews - and some Jews, too - take the ultra-Orthodox Hasidic communities as being representative of the whole of Judaism. They are not. They are groups of people who have chosen to follow a certain degree of observance, a certain set of interpretations, a certain culture, all of which are part of Judaism. Hasidic ultra-Orthodoxy is not Judaism distilled into its most perfect form. They are not better Jews than the rest of us. Besides, there are Hasidim who are not ultra-Orthodox, just as there are ultra-Orthodox Jews who are not Hasidic.

In every religion there is a spectrum of how much people choose to observe, and how people interpret the rules and customs.

Personally I take pride in being required to cover my head when I pray, because that requirement is only made of married women, not unmarried women. So to me it is a status symbol as well as a sign of respect before god. I am no less a Jew than my cousin, who cropped her hair off when she got married and now always wears a wig when outside her home.

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RubyRioja · 07/07/2008 14:29

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PrettyCandles · 07/07/2008 14:44

Nah, league tables of how good a Xxxx you think you are. Call them The Holier-Than-Thou Lists.

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RubyRioja · 07/07/2008 14:49

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PrettyCandles · 08/07/2008 06:21

I'm not offended by anything on this thread. People have the right to their own views, and nobody has been rude in their questions or statements.

I imagine many Moslems must feel something similar, that the more 'extreme' ways of behaving as a Moslem are not necessarily representative of Islam as a whole.

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