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campaign for free range chicken!!!!!!! Please.

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fordfiesta · 09/01/2008 17:22

Please check out www.chickenout.tv or watch Hugh's chicken run tonight at 2100 channel 4.
you can sign up for his campaign on the above address.... sorry dont know how to do the link.
If you have been watching the program you will know how important it is!
thank you.

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Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:39

Oooh yes, we could go vegetarian - think how much we could save!

Choices?????????? Have you ever, EVER shopped on a budget? Tried to make a chicken last through to 3 meals? Yes, we have a choice, we can choose not to buy chicken at all. And whilst we're thinking about it, better not buy pork because the poor piggies are caged and not allowed to even roll over, and lambs are taken from their mothers at an early age and transported miles in horrific conditions to be slaughtered and so on and so forth.

Tell you what, instead of campaigning for more expensive, ethical meat, campaign for fair wages and more help for parents so that we can afford the lovely meat you all eat.

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fordfiesta · 09/01/2008 21:40

theicequeen..... dont think waswondering was getting at you but probably like me wonders how anyone can justify buying it when it is so obviously wrong..... it is hard on a budget and i take my hat off to anyone who has to feed a big family on a small budget these days.... it is only myself and ds so despite my overdraft i think it is easier for us finacially in someways.... i dont have to feed big strapping husbands to thier exacting tastes and fancies or anything like that. I think it is good that this thread is making people think, and even if you cant afford to buy it yet is hopefully edging you in the direction of free range as things financially (god i hope for me one day ) get easier.

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 09/01/2008 21:42

If I cant stretch to the extra 9p a litre for organic milk I dont get. To me, some things arent worth the compromise.

Waswondering · 09/01/2008 21:42

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Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:42

How can anyone justify buying it? Guilt again huh? Sorry for being poor. I apologise I'm just an underpaid LSA and IceQueen, apologises too I'm sure.

IceQueen, can't you see the logic of their arguments? If we can't buy free range we shouldn't buy at all. So tell the kids it's just cheese pies and veggies from now on. The poor chickens deserve better than us selfish pigs!

nutcracker · 09/01/2008 21:43

Sorry but I think that your comment Waswondering,
'You can afford what you want to afford'
is such a load of rubbish and you obviously have no idea what it is like to try and feed several people on a piddling amount of money.

I want to afford to buy by dd1 a new matress as the one she has is like sleeping on cardboard, but I can't afford it so I can't buy it.

Why don't people get it.

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 21:43

I don't NEED edging towards anything apart from being debt free - FFS I used to stand outside supermarkets as a teenager handing out leaflets about animal cruetly - including battery farmed chickens.

Rhubarb - we've tried the veggie option - didn't save us any money at all - as I had to buy that much extra veg, pulses and starch that I may as well just have been buying the meat

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:44

And I had an argument with Asda the other day about not stocking enough British meat and veg. I stand up for the farmers and shop carefully for local produce where I can.

But that's not enough. Oh well, a vegetarian life for me then.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 09/01/2008 21:46

A great deal of the sainsbury's fair trade fruit and veg are the same price as their "standard".

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TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 21:47

VVV - how many litres in a 6 pint bottle of milk?? We currently go through (approx) 20 pints of milk a week......and that will go up once DS3 is onto cows milk in a few months time....but I have NO idea how many litres that is.....

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:48

Do you know what the pay the people who pluck and gut these chickens? Minimum wage.
You think these people buy free range?

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 21:49

You can afford an organic roast chicken EVERY week - and you "shop on a budget"........hmm - me thinks someone hasn't quite got the idea of the sort of budget we're talking about

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fordfiesta · 09/01/2008 21:50

ok... dont need to swear.
ultimately buying it is wrong what ever your finances. but i do understand why some people feel they have to.
I also stood outside supermarkets handing out leaflets... i just held on to my values!
I do survive on a very small budget and we eat health and ethically.
This thread was not intended to put people down or start a rich v's poor debate.... if you agree join the campaign if not dont! simple.

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Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:50

She skips on the carrots!

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 21:51

VVV - I wouldn't know if Sainsbury fair trade fruit and veg is the same price or not - as I tend to buy mine at the market - but tea, coffee, sugar, hot chocolate (core essentials in this house ) are all definitely more expensive when you buy fair trade. As are cereal bars for DH to munch on at work.

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Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:52

"I just held onto my values"
Thanks for that. Make me feel good why don't you? Do you honestly think I choose to buy battery hens? That I wouldn't rather taste some lovely, organic, free range, corn-fed chicken meat?

Obv not. I'm out.

nutcracker · 09/01/2008 21:52

8 Sainsburys bananas £0.99

5 Sainsburys fairtrade bananas £0.99

So 3 same price but 3 bananas less.

6 Braeburn apples £1.79

6 Fairtrade braeburn apples £2.19

Might not be much difference to alot of people but it's too big a diffeence to me.

MicrowaveOnly · 09/01/2008 21:53

Rhubarb, just because poorer people can't afford to shop ethically, it doesn't mean you shouldn't support those people that can afford it, just cos of envy.

what's right is right,humane is best. But if you can't afford it fine. No need to feel guilty. But just stop making those of us that can afford it feel guilty for having more money!!

TheIceQueen · 09/01/2008 21:54

fordfiesta - it's not as simple as "if you agree join the campaign it not don't" - I DO agree with the campaign - and I'm pretty sure most (if not all??) of those of us on this thread who don't buy free-range agree with it - but £50 a week to feed 3 VERY big eaters, buy nappies, baby milk and all the cleaning stuff (both house and body ) just doesn't accomdate free-range food buying...

even if I quit my £15 a month smoking habit it STILL wouldn't cover the extra expense!

Rhubarb · 09/01/2008 21:54

You do realise that your lovely organic, free-range British chicken is far from fair trade don't you?
As I said, the pluckers and gutters are paid minimum wage. So I think you are all unethical by NOT buying chicken that supports fair wages for the workers.

nutcracker · 09/01/2008 21:55

Oh come off it microwaveonly, the only people on this thread trying to make anyone feel guilty are the people accusing others of not having any morals because they can't buy free range.

VeniVidiVickiQV · 09/01/2008 21:55

Oh god I dont bother with a full roast dinner that often. Once every few months. Stews and casseroles and soups much better. and economical.

QOQ - Its something like 3.45 litres = 6 pints.

Waswondering · 09/01/2008 21:56

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