Kitchen Aid - how long do I 'knead' for?

[daughterofafarmer]

I was ask for a bread marker for x-m&s but my sister just suggested using my Kitchen Aid instead. I was just wondering how long do/ should I mix it for.

Thanks

5 minutes on high or until it springs back when you push a finger in it.
Lucky you mmmmmmm bread!

Thanks gagg

Sadly it's utterly terrible...a total disaster. I think I over worked it and underproved it! House smells good through

It's like the bread from about a boy!!!!

Ha. I made my first loaf with the KA today. I do have a breadmaker but was out of flour so used a bread mix. Was bloody awful too :o

I hand knead mine but its always pretty rubbish in loaf form. You can't go wrong with pizza dough though.

I mix the ingredients on 1, then when all the liquid is incorporated I increase the speed to 2, and knead for 8 to 10 min.

If you want a good book on bread, the River Cottage handbook is cheap and v. good!

One issue found is thast most people tend to have too dry a mix, even for hand kneading you don't usually need to flour a worksurface as the flour sticks helps to stretch it out.

For mixers (have a K-Mix) - also make sure the dough is quite 'wet', if it balls up as youmix it then its proably too dry, it should almost stick to the bottom part of the bowl and sort of rise up on the hook. As you mix more it starts to get stretchier, less sticky and glossy.

I find mixers better for the rich doughs with eggs / butter, but you just need to keep experimenting.

Also you cam prove for many hours at a lower temp - often do overnight proves.

Can I ask a question?

I baked a loaf this weekend and used my KA to knead it.

The bread tasted lovely but seemed quite dense and heavy. Is there something I'm doing wrong?
It did rise nicely and was a good shape, just seemed very dense compared to the supermarket crap bread I'm used to.

agree with keeping it wetter than you think. you want it to kind of "slap" around in the bowl to start with. resist the urge to add more flour!

it'll get nice and elasticy and absorb the water and be fine

i usually hand-knead for 10 mins, or use the KA for 4-5