Yesterday we butchered two pigs at home. It was brilliant

[HumphreyCobbler]

We made sausages and salami. We had chops, tenderloin, ham, hocks,roasting joints - absolutely vast amounts of meat. We won't have to buy meat for at least six months.

We cure the bacon later and finish packing the sausages. The salami looks brilliant hanging in the shed.

I am so pleased

We do it all again on Sunday, two more pigs are being slaughtered and we butcher them on Friday.

I feel Hugh FW would be very proud

To congratulate you

[sycophant]

peggotty, meat-eating is disgusting. Of course there are varying degrees of suffering, but it's killing an animal capable of feeling fear and pain simply because people like the taste of their flesh is wrong.

Hecate early humans had diets very much like other great apes, which was a largely plant-based diet, drawing on foods that could be picked with hands. Research suggests that meat-eating probably began by scavenging?eating the leftovers that carnivores had left behind. However, human bodies have never adapted to it. It's a fact that meat-eaters have a higher incidence of heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and other problems. Animal flesh contains cholesterol and saturated fat, which isn't intended for humans who are natural herbivores.

BTW:

• our teeth are better designed for eating plant roots
• like the intestines of other herbivores, humans' are very long (carnivores have short intestines so they can quickly get rid of all that rotting flesh they eat)

'Quite impressed with myself'

Oh dear. Simple pleasures indeed, lol.

Humphrey my first reaction on opening this thread was to recoil in horror, as a relatively militant vegetarian.

However, after reading your slaughter method and the way you have cared for these animals, I applaud you! You seem to have got it as right as you can ethically and humanely, short of not eating meat of course!

If only all meat-eaters would pay the extra so that the meat they buy was reared and killed in these conditions....

But Booja, would Humphrey's pigs have experienced any more than several seconds of (at the most) confusion before they were killed though? Their death was instantaneous and not in the stressful surroundings of an abbatoir.

People are always going to eat meat. I could argue the case for small-scale meat production forever, but couldn't justify abolishing meat-eating entirely.

If this is not a ridiculous question, what would happen to the species that humans have traditionally eaten? Would they just become extinct?

thanks thirtysomething

yes, HTH, I was initially amused but am now sad that something I am so pleased about has been picked over in this way

oh how very nice ..... NOT

Yes, yes, Booj! I'm onto my third glass of wine now, and feel like I could hug you!

my mum does the same with lambs. she gives a whole lamb (including offal and bits and bobs) as a present to various family members at christmas - it's a much-appreciated present, good-quality meat that you know has been reared and slaughtered ethically

you should be proud HC

Booja, meat eating is not disgusting.

What is, is your overbearing way in which you are denegrating something another poster is proud of doing, which is ethically raising and sourcing their own meat.

I think your title perhaps gave the wrong, blood thirsty impression. It is funny, I accept that your pigs had a less awful death than if they had gone to a slaughter house. Yet I also find myself thinking you are a cold and odd person (far more so than most meat eaters who could not perform/watch the 'kill' itself) to enjoy the process, death and gore .

Willie I guess the lambs are slaughtered at around 4 months old? And the ewe's are left with? Nothing? To be impregnated again, for more young to be taken away?

FFS did she say she enjoyed the death?! what a horrible assumption to make that she's a cold odd person. Jeez!

Butchering means cutting up meat, not killing the animal.

but butchery is a technical term for what I did

What else should I have said?

I am being honest, Peggotty. These are the feelings that OP and her posts evoke for me.

Buy a dictionary - butchery includes the slaughter.

er yes, we did actually slaughter them too

I mentioned that

Yes, peggotty doesn't seem to realise that.

well booja I think they're more like 8 months old, but that's pretty much the way it goes

let's not anthropomorphise eh?

You haven't answered my earlier question Booja. And don't be so so bloody patronising.

Humphrey I'm sorry this thread has descended into this. I don't want to contribute to it getting any worse. I'm going to leave it now (my first time ever of being so pissed off on MN) but most reasonable people will applaud what you have done.

Booja is making the point that your title declares and translates to 'butchery and slaughter are brilliant'.

Booja is making the point that your title declares and translates to 'butchery and slaughter are brilliant'.

Ok so I am ignorant too.

hey peggotty, I really appreciate your support

we shoudl just ignore them, really they are being silly

come round for a bacon roll