Im not suggesting we start a cult. But, like a cult?

[CallmeJim]

Besides the sexual, child, financial abuse and fanatical aspects of a cult?

Discussion over brunch with friends yesterday who are either single by choice or miserable in LTRs turned to if we knew in our 20s what you do in your 40s, what would you have done?
After much discussion it was decided that many of our group (Im the outlier as Im happy with DH) would have happily lived somewhere such as a female only caravan park, somewhere full of a community feel, owning the land and property that you live on and a feeling of safety and community. Women only bar on site, dancing and drinks without fear of spiking or walking home
to be attacked, early morning walks with no man behind you shuffling and keeping you on edge.
We decided it did sound cult like, but not quite the end of the world, doomsday type, more of a nice woman only commune to live.

(Just think, if munsnetters had their own one, we could rear chickens and it would feed us all for years 😂)

Sounds awful. I'm not really into communes and don't fear or dislike all men.

Me and dh went out on mothers day to our local night club. I noticed after a few minutes, apart from staff, there were only two men in there. All the different group of women were chatting to each other, i got pulled into a big group dance as i was taken pity on due to dh not dancing, bags and drinks left unattended everywhere. It has really made me think. The presence of men literally controls every night out women have. We are warriors not to let it stop us.

on the flip side, we went to a pub last week and i was the only woman. Worhin three minutes of being in there one man had made a joke abiut another being a paedophile and the others laughed and agreed. Mens standards for other men are very, very poor.

Sounds awful - I like men! I am obviously lucky as I had a happy marriage (widow) and my sons are good men.
I like socialising with my friends, but wouldn't want to live in an all female environment.

I'd love to be able to retire to an all female retirement village, that only employed female staff.

Wouldn't it be easier for men haters to go find an uninhabited island and go live there? For people that hate men so much they spend a lot of time and energy talking about them

I'm in please.
My friends and I, all late 60s or early 70s, decided years ago that if we all outlived our partners, we would each sell our houses and buy a small hotel to live in together. Separate en suite bedrooms, shared areas, 2 kitchens, gym and a decent sized garden. Guest rooms for family. Live-out staff.
Periodically we try to come up with a name, at the moment it's Faulty Towers.

Me and my friends talk about it all the time. We would love a huge house with different wings and mothers and small children all living together.
no more inpatient husbands snapping at small children, no more sex pestering. We would share the childcare and cooking. Have some chickens!
have at least 3 mum friends who’ve jokingly fantasised about it

Men hating isn’t what it’s about, feeling safe and happy is.

Not wanting to be raped or murdered walking home isn’t hatred of men. It’s fear of their capability.

My DH is a good man and some of the things my friends find quite shocking he does are the minimum I’d expect of another person who lives here to do. The standards for men are low I think many women especially ones who’ve worked and raised families with minimal support from spouses would seriously consider a small slice of life thats around their physical and mental well being taking top priority.

Perfect.

I would love a female only community

Sounds heavenly. It would be such a fab environment for teenage girls too.

I live next door to the New Caledonian Hotel. How about the Old Fallopian?

My female friends and I are halfway to planning a women only retirement living space.
We don't know exactly what form it will take yet.
Statistically, we are likely to outlive our men and none of us can be bothered with another live in relationship, even if we could find someone that could live up to our men. We might have some FWB, but that's another matter.

We're not man haters, we just want peace in our older ages, and we know that living without men, even if we love them to bits, is generally more peaceful and less stressful.

Excellent suggestion. tbh we have considered a raft of very biological names over the years, most of which would have been deemed unacceptable by polite society and the Royal Mail. Then we tried to be subtle and had South Trek Towers ( various bits of our anatomies started The Great Trek South years ago) but I will definitely suggest The Old Fallopian, thanks!

I can imagine living somewhere like that. Would the rule be no male visitors at all - I can see that being tricky around family members or straight women who got into relationships with men while living there, for instance?

And presumably you’re talking about biological women only?

I’d love this for women who wanted it, peaceful locations near coast or countryside.
Lots of social events that women can choose to attend and lots of other like minded courteous women to mix with.

I truly don’t see it as hating men, simply wanting to be with other women. Women who’ve experienced DV or SA may finally receive a sense of calm, or women who simply don’t want to live with men for any reason would have better life quality.

Im not suggesting making our own soap from lard and dressing like handmaidens, Im really suggesting women only places would suit many women.

I'm all for women's bars, cafes, hotels, etc etc because men CAN be and often ARE gross.
Trouble is men would add to their gross-ness by demanding men-only equivalents!

No males over 12 we decided and we didn’t get have a debate about bio women, however we didn’t have our friend with us who is a gay man and he wasn’t allowed purely because he has a penis 😂
That and he drives us all insane in equal measure being a massive drama llama, so penis or not, we can meet him somewhere else.

I was told if I was to live there I’d have to visit DH at his home, he’s not allowed on the cult grounds. Sounds ideal.

My theory is this which does sound man hating but isn’t, women would choose men free spaces due to safety, a group of men actively choosing men only spaces would immediately turn into an incel breeding ground and they’d all rile one another up and become dangerous.
By all means let them have their own spaces, but they’d be done in an entirely different spirit.

Im knocking on the door of 40 so im far from old yet i still remember a sign in the pub my father drank in saying “any woman who enters this area will be whipped” and whilst seemingly just a joke, that was there during a period martial rape wasn’t illegal. And many, many of the women, my own DM included often had black eyes, broken ribs, fat lips from the men who drank there.

That sign is possibly what made me a feminist because it used to scare me so much if my mother would come over to the pool tables where I’d be playing with my dad, he may actually whip her at home.

Men if left to their own devices would turn into women hating extremists? Many just watch sports and chat shit.

I'm sorry you lived with that fear as a child, it sounds very traumatic.

I’m in! I’ve dreamed of it often. And I would happily visit all the men I love in their homes.

And those worrying about the men- don’t. There are still plenty of women around who will centre you.

However it may well give men an opportunity to rethink how they gather, to do a better job of providing the support they assume will come from women.

There's always a pick me, isn't there! 🙄

And they can have them. They just can't expect women to do the work of setting up and running them.

You’re talking about something like this @CallmeJim 😁

www.owch.org.uk/