Ironic how reform tell us all immigrants are a danger to women when a reform mp attacked his girl friend bad not just a push as he described it

[Littlemissgobby]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/reform-uk-mp-jailed-for-repeatedly-kicking-his-ex-girlfriend-386193/

Isn’t it funny how all these right wing men always say? They want to look out for women and help protect them? It always turns out that half of them are dodgy motherfuckers.
You have the guy that has just had to step down that Donald Trump wanted to be the Attorney General he’s got loads of sex trafficking offences against him Matt gaetz .
Then you have this gentleman maybe not a gentleman who brutally attacked his girlfriend but yet they were convinced the average Joe that we should all be scared of the immigrants I think to be honest with you I’m quite a lot scared by these right wing twats what about yourselves?

No, women are by far the biggest abusers of children tbf. Primarily the mother. Plenty of data online.

Love to see that data!

Exactly but Ringo's certainty that men are more likely to abuse their children is an absolutely perfect example of the assumptions people make and the prejudices people have. It's exactly the same with people's perceptions of immigrants.

Men ARE generally more likely to abuse children - just like they ARE towards adult women.

However I’d absolutely love to know where you get your information from as it’s extremely hard to find any data as it’s not collected nationally - which is odd.

There was a discussion with loads of data on here which I'll try and find when I haven't got to be in bed in 45 mins ago, but here are the results of a few mins on Google.

See attached pic of graph showing mothers as main perpetrators - link below.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/254893/child-abuse-in-the-us-by-perpetrator-relationship/

Each year there are over 3 million referrals to child protective authorities. Despite often being the first to examine the victims, only about 10% of the referrals were from medical personnel. The fatality rate is approximately two deaths per 100,000 children. Women account for a little over half of the perpetrators.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499891/

71% of children killed by one parent are killed by their mothers

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.house.mi.gov/sessiondocs/2015-2016/testimony/Committee331-9-21-2016-7.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjU3prDlaOKAxWsW0EAHRX3Kl44ChAWegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw0HiIvhHDmLC-zAaJ5xRB6y

It's the same story in the UK, just didn't have time to dig up all the stats from previous discussion. Gotta be up at 5am and just got in from gym still needing to shower and eat something.

Why is it that no vulnerable afghan women are seeking asylum only able bodied healthy young males? Don’t women matter?

www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/five-explanations-to-why-the-majority-of-refugees/
You might like to read this before assuming the worst of people.

Stop spreading lies.

Half of Afghan refugees to the UK are children. The adults are balanced 50%/50% men and women, except under the ACRS 2 pathway where the majority are women.

Source: Afghan asylum seekers and refugees in the UK - Migration Observatory - The Migration Observatory

Four Afghan boys who arrived in the boats gang raped a schoolgirl in Kent. They would be considered children in the statistics and apparently attended school with her.

Again, why should women and girls suffer because you want to be ‘nice’? Why do ‘global obligations’ come before the dignity and safety of women and girls?

Your good intentions are hurting us.

If mothers, who are virtually always with their own children, are only about half to three-quarters of perps, that’s actually quite safe considering the amount of fatherless homes out there.

Other studies (from America fwiw) have found that having unrelated males in the home increases risk of death or injury to a child.

It's already been pointed out to you, I don't know how many times, that you're more likely to be in danger from someone you know, than a stranger.

It's very difficult to get someone to understand why it's important to help others. I assume it just doesn't compute.

In the UK we opened our doors to Ukrainians fleeing Putin and people from Hong Kong fleeing democracy crackdowns. In both instances we offered refuge to those whose lives were in danger.

We also offered refuge to Syrians fleeing Assad and Afghanistans fleeing the Taliban. These people's lives were in danger and the UK government offer help.

We're obligated to do so because of various international treaties such as the Refugee Convention. As such there are various laws protecting people who reach our shores.

It's obviously better that people don't make the perilous journey here through Europe and by boat. We do take refugees from various schemes outside this.

VAWAG is at crisis levels in the UK and it's great to see such a passionate response to this issue. We need more refuges, more specialised police and a better understanding of this scourge.

People can donate to Women's Aid here.

Where are you from RingoJuice? I'm sure in another thread you said you lived in USA, near an area where Haitian migrants were reportedly eating cats and dogs. Yet you also talk as if you're British and seem to know a lot about British news, which is unusual for an American.

If you care to review my backstory (such as it is), my hometown is near to there. I haven’t lived in America for quite some time but still vote (since I still have to pay taxes after all so may as well).

And I am glad they are reportedly starting to leave ahead of January, given that TPS is expected to be rescinded. I am looking forward to the mass deportations promised by Trump and voted for him on that basis. Hope he does not disappoint ✌️

We will never see eye to eye on many things, but thank you for answering my question.

We have the Ukrainian scheme which is a humanitarian scheme but not reliant on crossings

I recall the outrage (as per) on mn because there was time for vetting

So it is possible to control, vet and limit if wanted but not with the system as it stands

The problem is solely this method can only happen without profit from selling movement if policies reduce that selling

Those policies currently only work if they are a deterrent

Unless enough politicians shift on international law which may happen over next decade as pressures mount

And before someone says they want to set up more routes you'll just get both with crossings continuing