Transman surprised to get pregnant

[CanadianJohn]

Apologies for butting in on this board, but readers may be interested in this story from the CBC, about a transman and his pregnancy experience.
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trans-man-pregnant-1.7275310

“Most of the ones we went to, there have been parents who have literally turned their children away from us because we are a gay couple with a baby," he said”

I find this really offensive to actual gay couples. And I’m bloody sure that ‘homophobia’ wasn’t the reason people turned away from them. The TM looks very much like their actual sex, so it would be clear to others, and probably people were nervous about navigating the minefield of ‘proper language’ so avoided them.

She had a mastectomy so can't breatfeed the bairn. I'm a bit surprised that a pregnancy could.occur after all those years of male hormones

Biology overrides everything.

Actually I've commented on the wrong post. There is another article about a transman who has given birth and is now complaining she can't breastfeeding feed....because she had a double mastectomy. I'll try and find the link

It s a good thing to have fewer accidental or unwanted pregnancies

But a couple (knowing one is female) have unprotected sex unless they are open to the possibility of pregnancy! Lots of trans men have hysterectomies, don't they? Get on long term contraception otherwise.

These people live in a reality denying fantastical belief system though, where recognising someone's sex, and all the ramifications of one's sex, is the ultimately sin, deemed to be actual violence. That young woman appears to have lived in this fantasy with those around her constantly feeding this belief that she is literally a man. Its surely not that surprising that someone who lives in a reality denying social community has ended up detached from reality.

There was a case where a midwife was hounded in another country - can't remember which - for telling a pregnant trans identified woman that she needs to remember her body is female. With a culture like this, its hardly surprising these things happen.

Well yes. You know that, I know that, now this person knows it and is trying to spread the word to others who might not. I don't think they're a complete idiot for thinking male hormones + absence of periods for years and years = no need for contraception. Who knows, maybe they did seek advice and were given the wrong information.

I 100% agree with @coldandheat here - this isn't a TRA, no need for the character assassination, especially of the baby! It diminishes us.

But I think that we need keep our criticism firmly on the ideology, structures and institutions promoting or capitulating to this crap, rather than sneering at individuals who have fallen for it. I see that woman ( and her husband, and even more so her child, at least potentially) more as victims of an ideology than people to be scorned.

Speaking more generally here. This couple have accepted the pregnancy so they have accepted the risk and embraced the baby. Doctors need to do better when they prescribe hormones and make people aware.

"Since Sandifer didn't know he could even carry a child until he was already pregnant, he says pregnancy for men needs to be talked about more often and that, if carrying a biological child is the dream, it's possible."

I don’t understand. If someone truly believes they are a man, and identifies only with being a man then why would they have the dream of carrying a child, because that’s something a woman does and a man therefore wouldn’t want to do it. Or, is that wrong? Are biological men out there all dreaming of being pregnant, carrying and giving birth to children? Maybe they are, and I just been living under a rock and haven't come across it.

Pregnancy for men. Sounds like a new perfume, and may I just add that it stinks.

FFS! Is basic biology not taught in school any more? Woman having intercourse with man can result in pregnancy. If said woman has been taking hormones etc due to their wish to be seen as male, but also having PIV sex, then they should be sterilised or use adequate contraception to prevent pregnancy. A child could have all kinds of problems due to the woman's choices, and it is horribly unfair to bring an unwanted and possibly harmed child into the world. Also odd how a woman wishes to ' live as a man' but does this?

Also odd how a woman wishes to ' live as a man' but does this?

This person also does a drag act.

So a female playing at being a man playing at being a woman.

I'm starting not to give two fucks about these people and their attention seeking. I'm more concerned about the effects on that poor baby, both physical and mental with having these 2 fools as parents.

Is it cynical of me to assume the photo of Lupin being held by his bio father was placed and captioned to make it seem at first glance like the man in the photo was Forrest and not Bran?

The chance was not 1.8%. the doctor (if indeed it was the doctor) pulled that number out of thin air. And regular PIV has a chance of leading to pregnancy, providing the woman hasn't had a hysterectomy.
I'm also highly critical of the article suggesting that the woman was taking high dose testosterone for the first 6 months of pregnancy! That child would be at high risk of teratogenesis. The article should have highlighted how dangerous it is.
I call BS on the whole article tbh.

This all over.

Sexism and homophobia.

Without them we wouldn't have this bonkers state of affairs where words are so triggering that even the words other people use about themselves have to be changed, but fanny and cock based sexual activity and giving birth are A-OK.

And OP, it's not "far right" to name reality. What exactly is left-wing about this big pharma loving, hyper-individualistic ideology anyway? People have been lobbied, coerced and duped is all.

So bizarre and unfair on the baby having attention seeking parents.

This is the danger of people being able to change their medical records (disclaimer: I don’t know if this person did, this is a general point).

If someone is genuinely able to change their sex marker from female to male then turns up at a doctor’s surgery with a range of symptoms, we can hardly be surprised if the GP doesn’t think “Hmm, this patient is a man…better do a pregnancy test”.

I was thinking of this thread when I saw a post on Twitter yesterday about everyone having an x-ray being asked if they could be pregnant.

If transmen are this divorced from their biology then asking them, and all other men to be "inclusive", straight out if they could be pregnant is still going to risk damage.