Transman surprised to get pregnant

[CanadianJohn]

Apologies for butting in on this board, but readers may be interested in this story from the CBC, about a transman and his pregnancy experience.
www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/trans-man-pregnant-1.7275310

Absolutely right.

"Since Sandifer didn't know he could even carry a child until he was already pregnant, he says pregnancy for men needs to be talked about more often and that, if carrying a biological child is the dream, it's possible."

Congratulations to him on his little miracle.

I wonder if the pituitary tumour idea came from prolactin levels in the blood rather than stomach issues?
In any case six months of pregnancy going undetected on that tiny frame seems really unusual.

"he says pregnancy for men needs to be talked about more often"
😆
Let me guess- he wants us to be compelled to call pregnant women pregnant people.
Planned Parenthood in the US had to change their pamphlets to say that under TRA pressure.
Insanity.

"he says pregnancy for men needs to be talked about more often"

Oh he can just get in the bin!

Probably terrified of a career-ending complaint from a patient saying they were being transphobic by suggesting a female of childbearing years regularly having sex could be pregnant.
for many people in public sector organisations doing anything but towing the Twaw party line is career suicide.

Oh and they are in Canada which explains a lot

Different transfolk have different feelings on what they do and don't want to engage in, sexually. Just like others who may wish to or not wish to have piv, or anal, or oral, or maybe are asexual and not even interested full stop.

For some it's super dysphoric, and for others it's not, or is less so.

We have g spots up there. Mutual pleasure is usually a thing in relationships, no?

Also they don't have to put the p in the v for sperm to have travelled up there, if they're not using condoms.

That's why I put usually. Some gay men don't do anything penetrative. Some are tops, some bottoms, some versatile.
However, in the same way many lesbians are attracted to vaginas, many gay men like cock. You can identify as a man all you like but language matters and it's also not transphobic to point out that for many anatomy matters.
If their partner is pan, it mightn't. If gay, it is surprising if they've done p in v. You are correct that you could still get pregnant if ejaculate is near the vagina but it isn't high odds adding to the 1.8%.

But it's really none of my business and I admit I do come across as prurient in that post. As someone who has been pregnant and given birth three times, I do admit to struggling with someone going through that process yet still insisting they are the father. But again, none of my business. Peace and love x

Forrest, Bran and Lupin

Oh my days

Sandifer didn't know he could even carry a child until he was already pregnant, he says pregnancy for men needs to be talked about more often

     Altenatively,  the fallacy that women who think they can be men <span class="italic">needs to be talked about more often </span>

There are a lot of flower names in fairness but Lupin as a boy's name means pertaining to the wolf - every day's a school day - or maybe they liked the Harry Potter character or the French Netflix show?

Sigh.

First people decide that "man" and "woman" are personalities and not types of body, which nobody except them thinks.
Then they get grumpy that they have the "wrong" name for their personality, even though no-one except them thinks man and woman are personalities rather than body types in the first place.
And then they get grumpy again because the body stuff they insisted wasn't significant turns out to be significant after all and they put themselves in the wrong group.

It would all be so much easier if they recognised whatever it is they think about themselves that means their personality can't belong in their natal sex is just something they themselves are projecting, it's nothing more real than their own prejudices echoing back to them in their own minds.

That does sound like some type of hand knitted muesli that can only be served with organic goat milk (except lupins are poisonous).

My first thought was that those big dangly ear things are going to be grabbed by little jammy hands - a lot.

Otherwise - tiny female person gets pregnant and has large baby. Meh.

Well since she used her lady parts and had sex with a male she isn't a dad. But that's just my uneducated view.

Isn't that 1.8% chance of pregnancy about the same as 98% chance of a condom failing?

Info from Planned Parenthood.org (US website).

It would be interesting (theoretically, obv horrific and tragic in reality) to know whether offending the ideology would be more or less likely to end a career than death or damage to mother and/or baby due to misdiagnosis.

Astonishingly, I suspect the former.

Regardless of our feelings about gender, it sounds like this person was very much caught off guard having thought they were infertile - ill informed or deliberately misled? And they're trying to put the information out there to warn others. I think we can all agree that fewer transmen accidentally getting pregnant while taking testosterone is a good thing.

Woman gets pregnant. Shocker.

That poor baby, exposed to testosterone and having 2 deluded parents.

Biology matters.

All the dehumanising and de-sexed language Trans people use helps with the dissonance (e.g. it’s not a vagina, it’s a ‘front hole’, etc.). Transmen also often have unprotected PIV sex because they think the testosterone protects them, and they have literally stopped being female.
Recently in India there was a trans couple splashed all over the media because, gasp, ‘he’ was pregnant and ‘his’ Transwoman wife had impregnated him! (Trans people have full marriage rights there under the law, as long as they’re with ‘opposite gender’ partners.) Both parties had fully functioning bits, but it was being presented gushingly as some sort of groundbreaking step. 🙄

I have two TM relatives and a close friend is also a tm. Aside fro m one quite severely mentally ill relative the other two accept and understand they are biologically female. I’ve really found that the changing biology belief is more a tw thing. However all three believe that taking T will stop them getting pregnant 100% Not one has considered the fact they could be one of the 2% who can become pregnant despite taking T. The naivety around this is astounding and I guess articles where TM speak out about their naivety are important to highlight the possibility.

So why look at a baby that looks at least three to four months old and exclaim ‘ her poor vagina?’ Do you not realise babies grow and some quite fast? It didn’t come out that big, did it?

Well it will either be this or they will be true believers who will just think it’s wrong to refer to the actual sex of the trans person.

This is a fail of the mad ideology which insists on sex denial. If this movement were able to say, this is your actual sex, but gender identity is different, we wouldn’t be in the whole of this mess as recognizing sex would mean acceptance of sex segregated spaces and sports. It would also mean recognizing sex in situations like, well, sex.

I also think that the mental health of trans identified people would be better as they would not so desperately need to try to make others believe they are something they never can be.

But gender ideology chose not to do this, and institutions and governments and law makers have capitulated to it.

But I think that we need keep our criticism firmly on the ideology, structures and institutions promoting or capitulating to this crap, rather than sneering at individuals who have fallen for it. I see that woman ( and her husband, and even more so her child, at least potentially) more as victims of an ideology than people to be scorned.

I agree.

Thank you I never knew that. Also, Diary of a Nobody.

And in that moment, his son's eyes said it all: "You're my dad."

Nope. Kids always know.