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Feminism: chat

What's your title?

282 replies

LorlieS · 03/02/2024 21:59

I'm married.
I go by the title of Miss at work (primary teacher) and Ms everywhere else.
Hate it when people refer to me as Mrs S.
Nope - that's my mum!!!

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Igmum · 06/02/2024 12:18

Professor

Love having a gender neutral title and confusing taxi drivers who probably expect an 80 year old man.

Before that Dr.

Before that Ms - was in Germany for a while where all adult women are Frau as a matter of courtesy. Changed from Miss to Ms after that.

HellonHeels · 06/02/2024 12:29

I'm Ms and have been since school days. Single, married, widowed, living with boyfriend - saw no need to change.

What I really cannot understand is people saying they are "proud to be married" like it's some kind of achievement.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/02/2024 12:31

Staying happily married can be an achievement I suppose!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/02/2024 12:43

Went from Ms at age 12 to Dr a couple of decades later. Miss and Mrs make me want to throw up and anyway, I'm marriage-free.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 06/02/2024 12:45

Wanting to throw up seems a strange reaction.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/02/2024 12:47

LorlieS · 03/02/2024 22:15

@PermanentTemporary I'm a primary teacher so mine is used frequently.
The children still struggle to comprehend that I'm a married Miss!!

The primary school my dc went to was all first names so not an issue.

In the secondary they went to the female teachers are all listed as Ms, regardless of what they use in their personal lives. Kids tend to pronounce it as Miss when speaking to them.

I use Ms and have done since I was 18. Dd23 is the same.

happyinahoodie · 06/02/2024 12:48

Miss! proud to be a single woman!

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/02/2024 12:49

Igmum · 06/02/2024 12:18

Professor

Love having a gender neutral title and confusing taxi drivers who probably expect an 80 year old man.

Before that Dr.

Before that Ms - was in Germany for a while where all adult women are Frau as a matter of courtesy. Changed from Miss to Ms after that.

I was signing up to luftansa recently. The options for Dr were Ms Dr and Mr Dr. I was amused 😁

greenbeansnspinach · 06/02/2024 12:57

HellonHeels · 06/02/2024 12:29

I'm Ms and have been since school days. Single, married, widowed, living with boyfriend - saw no need to change.

What I really cannot understand is people saying they are "proud to be married" like it's some kind of achievement.

I’m not “proud to be married”, I just like it!

greenbeansnspinach · 06/02/2024 13:01

People can call themselves what they like, but I have had a little smile about people using the title “”Dr” so prolifically (recognising if they have a second degree they are entitled) - if people who aren’t medical doctors can call themselves Dr, why shouldn’t I call myself what I want to, and which is harming no one - “Mrs”?

Igmum · 06/02/2024 13:02

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/02/2024 12:49

I was signing up to luftansa recently. The options for Dr were Ms Dr and Mr Dr. I was amused 😁

Ah yes, the joys of Herr Professor!

TeabySea · 06/02/2024 13:03

ErrolTheDragon · 06/02/2024 12:31

Staying happily married can be an achievement I suppose!

I've been happily married nearly 30 years. Still don't go by Mrs. I've never felt that my marital status was anyone else's business. I'm committed to my spouse and vice versa. The commitment is borne out in words and deeds, not in titles used.

SnapdragonToadflax · 06/02/2024 13:03

Ms. Not married but even if we do get married for tax reasons in future, I wouldn't change to Mrs. It's no-one's business whether I'm married or not, and men aren't labelled with their marital status so why should women be?

I honestly find it weird that any adult woman uses Mrs.

And any woman who uses Mrs because she's 'proud to be married' needs to have a good think about what this tells us about society's view of women, vs men being Mr throughout their entire lives, married or not. And even more so if she changed her name to his.

Bloom15 · 06/02/2024 13:03

I use Mrs if asked - I prefer to me addresses by my first name

bakewellbride · 06/02/2024 13:13

Mrs and I don't see why it bothers so many!

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:19

@deydododatdodontdeydo And how is anybody going to know by a man's title that they are "off the market"?
The answer is they're not as all male titles do not disclose marital status interestingly enough.
I'm a Miss/Ms and don't give a stuff if anybody assumes (wrongly) I'm not married/"off the market".

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OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/02/2024 13:19

Igmum · 06/02/2024 13:02

Ah yes, the joys of Herr Professor!

I do like the way it's Dr Dr if you have 2 PhDs or presumably a medical degree and a PhD.

So would you be Frau/Herr Dr Dr if you were a double Dr or does the second Dr beat the Frau/Herr?

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:21

@greenbeansnspinach Because the title of Dr does not suggest marital status.

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LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:22

@bakewellbride Read the comments on this thread to shed light on this.

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YetAnotherSpartacus · 06/02/2024 13:23

People can call themselves what they like, but I have had a little smile about people using the title “”Dr” so prolifically (recognising if they have a second degree they are entitled) - if people who aren’t medical doctors can call themselves Dr, why shouldn’t I call myself what I want to, and which is harming no one - “Mrs”?

’Doctor’ as a title existed before doctors of medicine claimed it as their title. And those of using it have the right to by the confer real of a degree - a significant achievement.

Call yourself Mrs if you like - no one is stopping you.

AgateQ · 06/02/2024 13:23

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:19

@deydododatdodontdeydo And how is anybody going to know by a man's title that they are "off the market"?
The answer is they're not as all male titles do not disclose marital status interestingly enough.
I'm a Miss/Ms and don't give a stuff if anybody assumes (wrongly) I'm not married/"off the market".

In reality nobody cares what titles people go by, it really isn't that deep. As I said before going by Ms or Miss as a married woman isn't a new or ground breaking thing.

Igmum · 06/02/2024 13:24

OchonAgusOchonOh · 06/02/2024 13:19

I do like the way it's Dr Dr if you have 2 PhDs or presumably a medical degree and a PhD.

So would you be Frau/Herr Dr Dr if you were a double Dr or does the second Dr beat the Frau/Herr?

I don't know! (Must seek out German friends to ask). German Professors usually have a second 'PhD' - the Habilitation - which is basically another thesis, often based around their publications and giving their contribution to the area. Passing this means that they are eligible to be considered for a Professorial Chair (can take absolutely ages though, the German system is insanely slow).

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:24

@AgateQ In that case, why are so many women seemingly so desperate to change their title to Mrs upon marriage?

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AgateQ · 06/02/2024 13:27

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:24

@AgateQ In that case, why are so many women seemingly so desperate to change their title to Mrs upon marriage?

Just because a woman wants to change her title it doesn't mean she is desperate to. Obviously a lot of women don't care if people know their martial status and like the sound of Mrs better than Ms. Why is this an issue for you?

deydododatdodontdeydo · 06/02/2024 13:28

LorlieS · 06/02/2024 13:19

@deydododatdodontdeydo And how is anybody going to know by a man's title that they are "off the market"?
The answer is they're not as all male titles do not disclose marital status interestingly enough.
I'm a Miss/Ms and don't give a stuff if anybody assumes (wrongly) I'm not married/"off the market".

If you read my first post I said my preference would be for men's titles to display their marital status too.
At the moment women's does, men's doesn't.
Rather than change women's to not, I'd rather men's was changed to.
It's never going to happen though.