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Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?

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Cambridgebunz · 07/11/2023 09:26

Liz Fraser boldly claims across all mediums that she aims to help all women live their best lives. However, there are suggestions, allegations, and evidence to the contrary.

What are your thoughts on the validity of her recent postings in the realm of domestic violence, parenting, mental health, neurodiversity, travel, running, holistic wellbeing and more, as a self-promoted "influencer"?

Keep your thoughts wholesome, relatable and current to her most recent postings. Do not mention ex-partners or her children by name. This discussion is to better understand the objective of and validity behind her “work” and words.

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Marstonroadmrs · 16/12/2023 15:12

Slams on breaks. Hits reverse. Running chat not getting ego plumps so right back to “can you believe it, fans are disrupting by Christmas shopping so I can sign books. Little ol me in a bookstore I’ve never been in.”

No. Not the fantasy work of fiction either, but the content for the Edinburgh festival fail. The book publicly outing boring Harry and the kids .

Is the C poem in this book? Perhaps being a C is a Brookes brand value? Can anyone at Brookes confirm this? I don’t want to buy a jacket if I suggesting I’m a C!

Shortbread49 · 16/12/2023 17:27

I was in Waterstones this week ( major uk city) I had a look for her books as am
intrigue to read one they didn’t have any in stock

MademoiselleÉtoile · 16/12/2023 19:29

Fairytale of New Liz

I could have been someone
Well so could anyone
You took my dreams from me
When I first found you
I kept them with me babe
I put them with my own
Can't make it all alone
I've built my dreams around you

CHORUS:
The girls of the MNUK choir were singing put it away.
And the bells were ringing out for Ban Liz Day.

Umbrellaisback · 16/12/2023 22:23

Edgeway press is dead and buried and unable to publish the words of silenced women but very much able still to boost the likes on Instagram posts of one woman so that’s okay then

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
Umbrellaisback · 17/12/2023 07:45

And no mention of what bookshop it is. Could that be because it would give away that she’s not where she’s making out to be? I don’t know of any other author who wouldn’t have enthused about the shop in these circumstances.

RhinoRhino · 17/12/2023 08:27

Liz, it's pored over, not poured over ......

You're welcome 😁

Perfectlystill · 17/12/2023 08:44

Her spelling and grammar are AWFUL!

I notice this the whole time.

RhinoRhino · 17/12/2023 08:55

@Perfectlystill To be fair, I'm not claiming to be an expert on spelling and grammar, but then again I don't promote myself as a writer, nor have I had the privilege of a top class education.

Wrongsideofliz · 17/12/2023 10:34

@Umbrellaisback I suspect it didn’t happen is why no name check, no tag and no grinning selfie with delighted bookshop owner! Just another “oh I was airdropped a photo of me signing a book can you believe it?”!

Let’s be realistic Liz. No message to fan girl bookshop owner! Just an “autograph” suggesting a lingering copy you told the bookshop owner you are signing, like it or not!

More realism, you’re hardly top spot on the bookshop owner bingo card. Holed up like the blessed Virginia, writers are largely anonymous beings plus you look like any other over exercised under nutritioned mum.

Another nice try, but failed!

Juniper744 · 17/12/2023 10:42

Legal reasons being:

? none of it is true
? some of it is true but dealt with and life moved on
? a reporting or similar in place to protect minors, as put in place to protect previous minors in previous matter IYKYN
? Mr Nice Guy is no more and a tit for tat will commence, likewise Ms Nice GF
? none of the above but I’m on the right tack

P.S. 90%+ of those who followed over past few years no longer follow, so not sustainable love🤷‍♀️

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
RhinoRhino · 17/12/2023 11:15

Interesting. We can silence others through the legal process, but we can also be silenced ourselves.

Who knew it worked both ways?

GinnyWoolf · 17/12/2023 12:29

'Now my circumstances have changed to allow me to live and breathe again' I find a very sad and telling sentence. Implies that she felt that beforehand she wasn't really living, i.e. felt stressed and restricted by childcare. But now she mostly doesn't have to bother with that so can bugger off back to Venice again and do whatever she likes. Sad.

Waverleyst · 17/12/2023 14:11

UKRunChat and Brooke’s are whistling into the wind with LF’s follower demographics. I fancy UKRunChat is about as useless as the NCDV when it comes to checking the appropriateness of its spokespeople.

UKRC is by and for privileged competitive people listing competitive races and competitive pushing to extremes.

Nothing about women’s wellbeing and safety. Nothing about running in fear of a violent partner or ex. Or with disabilities or physical or mental health conditions or CPTSD or ADHD or cultural challenges or while in prison or anything applicable to the people lured to follow Liz.

Nowhere has Liz caveated that the target audience of this site/chat/group is not for the faint hearted or runners starting out.

It’s not for the Ade’s and David’s and sausage selling perverts who will tune in to to marinade their pork. Or for women living with illnesses or in the shadows of abuse - Liz’s follow profile.

Regardless of the topic, Liz promotes pushing our bodies to extremes. It’s what people with addictions do. Starve, exercise, stalk, steal, hate, hurt, hunt, revenge, repeat.

Her current addiction is her new man. Endurance running is a tactic. She’s not qualified to talk about or answer questions on marathon or ultra running, training or fitness, goals and plans.

Her approach to running is dangerous for even the fittest of elite runners.Running with no preparation. No training, no build up, no stretching, no warm down, no preparation for the run, no water, no nutrition, rehydration with whisky, worn out equipment, no route to be tracked if she doesn’t return, yet publicly posting her remote running routes so any loon can track her.

Yet another organisation discredited by choosing to partner with Liz Fraser. I’m crossing them all off my list. I might just be one woman, but I’m a woman with friends, family and real world influence.

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
Tortiemiaw · 17/12/2023 14:25

Is it a live actual chat or questions? It's so tempting to get on there and rip her to shreds.
Which I hate feeling about another woman - but she is so nasty.

TomatoSoupkitchen · 17/12/2023 15:33

Why is she 🤫when it’s a Q&A? Only her allowed to ask and answer? Wouldn’t surprise me.

NHSarah · 17/12/2023 15:36

So tempting @Tortiemiaw do tempting. So Liz, what is the cure for CPTSD and ADHD? She’d love this though, after the mortification and sellout on victim hood..

Raffington55 · 17/12/2023 17:12

She's a massive running expert now that she's attached herself like a limpet, baggage free (ie, no kids at all any more), to a new man who runs much better and faster than she does. She'll be trying to outrun him from here - just like she had to outdo the wives of the men she had affairs with. Cue acrimonious ending when she can't.

Diamondstars · 17/12/2023 17:48

So far it’s all talk and no evidence of a car, fire or Tracker bar, driving, running or cycling or equipment.
There’s every chance he’s as much a fantasist as she. If we’re wrong and he does exist and isn’t just locals wearing my nan’s charity shop drop offs Christmas is next week so we can await the photos of him snapped surrounded by Liz’s sparkling offspring and challenging the giant, steel chinned son to a marathon triathlon while the lovely little ladies cook and clean up. It’s quite a difficult time of year to fake a romance.

Raffington55 · 17/12/2023 20:58

Also, who the hell filmed the 'he came and [oh so generously] passed me a tracker bar through the car window and is preparing a fire back at the house as I speak' video? Not her by the look of it. And Scout can't be ordered to do any more filming now she has been jettisoned. It's all quite comical. I get the sense that all Liz is trying to do at the mo is keep up with and outsmart Mumsnet and Tattle. 😂

OffendedScot · 17/12/2023 21:29

She’ll have to get up early and go to bed late to outsmart the the Tatnets!

CambridgeBuns · 17/12/2023 22:05

Partner! This is a bold statement from Liz. It suggests a commitment to longevity and fidelity. Mike, the father of one of her children, only ever achieved boyfriend status 🤨Another Christmas proposal perhaps? At least she won’t still be married this time she does propose!

Is Liz Fraser helping all women or just herself?
Raffington55 · 18/12/2023 00:22

CambridgeBuns · 17/12/2023 22:05

Partner! This is a bold statement from Liz. It suggests a commitment to longevity and fidelity. Mike, the father of one of her children, only ever achieved boyfriend status 🤨Another Christmas proposal perhaps? At least she won’t still be married this time she does propose!

Mike was more or less a boy compared to Liz when she went after him. I feel slightly sick at the thought of this new partner being taken in by the "false self" (of the narcissist) here. Poor guy doesn't know he's dealing with someone who has also likely got borderline personality disorder. That awaits him further down the road! Au secours!

Hilsvision · 18/12/2023 09:19

@Raffington55 and @CloudBayOz you’d think after rushing into her relationship with Mike and only finding out he was married and an alcoholic after she got pregnant and then only remembering she was also married after proposing to him and had three children who’d slipped her mind, you’d think she’d move more slowly this time.

Personally, if me I’d classify this relationship as “seeing someone.” Partner suggests warts and all (even those ones) have been revealed, exposed and no secrets or untruths are left to suddenly rock the equilibrium. There simply hasn’t been enough time for her to do let alone hangout her dirty laundry.

Umbrellaisback · 18/12/2023 09:25

Hilsvision · 18/12/2023 09:19

@Raffington55 and @CloudBayOz you’d think after rushing into her relationship with Mike and only finding out he was married and an alcoholic after she got pregnant and then only remembering she was also married after proposing to him and had three children who’d slipped her mind, you’d think she’d move more slowly this time.

Personally, if me I’d classify this relationship as “seeing someone.” Partner suggests warts and all (even those ones) have been revealed, exposed and no secrets or untruths are left to suddenly rock the equilibrium. There simply hasn’t been enough time for her to do let alone hangout her dirty laundry.

Only remembering he was married and she was married too late despite the fact SHE attended HIS wedding with HER husband and children. Quite some amnesia there

Rollingdownland · 18/12/2023 09:27

Do you think she'll try and get pregnant by Mr Tiny Trotters? I wouldn't put anything past her, although her age most likely rules that out. And as she has complained over the last six years, she has found motherhood second time around very very hard.

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