LGBT ally school

[sweetsuzie]

My kids secondary school has written about how they are an LGBT ally, all over their social media and his they’ll be covering this in assemblies etc. what does bring an LGBT ally actually mean?

That they don’t discriminate people due to their sexuality? That’s what I’d take from it.

They support equality for the lgbt kids who attend. Are they also disability allies?

I think the message could be better, along the lines of they support equality and diversity for all, with robust policies to make sure that support is in place.

That they are going to go on about it ad nauseum. Raise money for primarily LGBTQ+ causes. Adorn themselves in rainbows and pronoun badges. Just the standard script.

Are they also working with Mermaids etc?

How does this rally with Cass review? Just don’t know what it really means

I think you’ll just need to ask the school as nobody here will know unless you say what school it is. I’m sure they’ll have a policy they can send you.

They aren't homophobic or transphobic, and they will support LGBT students which includes calling out any homophobia and transphobia they see.

If you actually want details then ask the school, obviously.

Sadly there’s a huge amount of homophobic bullying in schools in the UK. Organised and very public ally-ship is a great way for schools to push back on that and nourish a safer environment for all their students.

But how do they balance the supporting of trans ideology with the fact trans ideology is homophobic? If a young lesbian at the school turns down a male child who wishes to be seen as female on the basis the male child is male, and said male complains, would that be transphobic of the lesbian for not seeing the male as a dating partner, or homophobic of the male for expecting a same sex attracted girl to date a member of the opposite sex?

Surely young lesbians are not expected to say yes to relationships with any one who asks. I can’t understand how this would be transphobic.

You’d think wouldn’t you….. but apparently if a lesbian refuses a trans identified person,,,, she’s a transphobe. No matter if the refusal isfir literally any other reason. It also begs the question, what would make this male think that a lesbian would be remotely interested in dating males?

This is another reason I am confused because LGBT does not seem to be one happy family. And there seem to be clashes between LGB and actual T ideology. So much so apparently so one of founders of Stonewall founded another alliance LGB without T. And also lesbians were not allowed to march at some LGBT March. This is so confusing. I hope they know what they are doing.

The school that is

Exactly @sweetsuzie it was lesbians who were ejected from pride marches because they refused to say males could be lesbians. Which is against the trans ideology. The head of stonewall compared these lesbians to racists. A well known trans activist said lesbians just needed to ‘get over their genital preferences’. As a mother of a young lesbian, I have seen this shit happen in real time. They have a LGBT club at school, but it is all trans ideology related. They are told males can be lesbians too, and females can be gay men and to believe otherwise makes you a bigot.

From my experience (of working in a few different schools) it's an improperly thought out buzzword that they haven't really thought through but will be putting out there as they work towards an inclusion award.

It will mean them don't discriminate against children for their sexuality (which I'd hope no school does anyway) and knowing you can't send trans children to the disabled loos because being trans isn't a disability. It won't necessarily mean they have robust safeguarding policies in place for people on the receiving end of homophobic bullying or have any fully thought through policies in place for toilets and changing rooms for trans kids that evolve any further than 'be kind'.

Wow @Happylittlechicken I had no idea 🤷‍♀️

From my experience it will mean they have Stonewall membership and will be promoting the T above the LGB, which is homophobic in itself, as PPs have said.

They will have lesson plans that promote trans ideology, and being gay or lesbian will barely get a look in. I would ask what teaching materials they are using.

In today's "made up problems"...

Ask the school OP, no one can tell you on such limited information.

Ummm… no. I wish it was bloody made up. I wish males were not telling my lesbian daughter to date them or she’s a bigot. I wish she didn’t feel uncomfortable having to change in front of males.
Lesbians are being told by the head of stonewall that lesbians who refuse to accept transwomen in their dating pool are no better than racists and committing ‘sexual apartheid’. Apart from being extremely offensive to victims Of apartheid, stonewall are the ones going into schools telling people same sex attraction is bigoted. Show me one teenager who wants to be labelled a bigot. This a a organisation for LGBT. Tell me again how they are supporting my daughter?

Oh I see…. This is a thread pretending to ask about allyship in schools, but actually wanting to have a pop at trans people.

Surprise (not!)

Take it to the sex and gender board if you want to explore that angle? On this chat board there’s not a presumption that everyone is GC.

@WaityWTF so we are not allowed on a feminist board to discuss how trans ideology affects women and girls? Why? You do know the L in LGBT stands for lesbians right? Those females who are same sex attracted. Or do they not count any more?

There’s a whole board dedicated to that topic, with plenty of enthusiastic posters keen to discuss their views on trans people.

Have at it.

but this is the feminist chat board, where we reserve the right to be non GC without being harangued for it and accused of random shit like thinking lesbians don’t count.

So we’re not allowed to talk about lesbian issues on a feminist board? Why? So what issues are we allowed to talk about on this board O great dictator?

Hang on, so on this board lesbians have to sleep with men? Crikey.