LGBT ally school

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My kids secondary school has written about how they are an LGBT ally, all over their social media and his they’ll be covering this in assemblies etc. what does bring an LGBT ally actually mean?

However I am not proud of being straight, female and of a certain ethnicity as these three things take zero effort. sick of this , shoving it into peoples face. We should also celebrate marriage/straight couples if we want equal rights…

Tell me you're a bigot without saying you're a bigot.

Hetero marriage / couples have been legal and celebrated for CENTURIES

It is widely agreed that the origin of marriage dates well before recorded history, but the earliest recorded evidence of marriage ceremonies uniting one woman and one man dates from about 2350 B.C. in the Far East.

It was illegal to be a homosexual man in the UK until 1967.

Gay marriage was not legalised until 2013 / 2014.

LGB folk are vilified, attacked (physically & verbally) in the streets to this day. How often does that happen to you as a straight, married woman?

Sports & academic achievements are fine. You can be proud of them by all means. But let's not pretend they are replacements for being allowed to be attracted to, love and marry the person you want to.

Just to clarify the top paragraph is quoting *Santasjingleballs'. It's NOT my view. I meant to quote it directly.

It means someone on the school staff who has a lot of influence has unquestioningly swallowed political propaganda from transactivists and intends to make the school a vehicle of social change despite the concerns around transactivism being homophobic, sexist and undermining of safeguarding.

@iklboo

Hetero marriage / couples have been legal and celebrated for CENTURIES

Yes, as a way of transferring ownership of a woman (female person) from one man (male person) to another. It's only the last century or so it's been something done as a public and legal commitment of love between two equal adults.

Absolutely the modern concept of marriage should be open to any consenting adults. But don't go pretending the long history of hetero marriage was a privilege to anyone other than men.

It's only the last century or so it's been something done as a public and legal commitment of love between two equal adults.

And gay marriage has been legal less than ten years. That was my point to the poster who wanted hetero marriage to be 'celebrated' the same as gay marriage. It is. It has been. Much longer than gay marriage, even with your very valid point about the concept of hetero marriage involving love & equality being the forefront.

That posters view was just another version of 'all lives matter'.

The poster thought people should be more proud of sporting & academic achievements than having the right to openly speak about your sexuality and being able to marry the person you love even if they are the same sex as you.

I cannot understand why the authorities tolerate.this tripe being taught in schools.God knows there is a truckload of complaints and expert opinion that it is tripe and dangerous tripe at that. Why don't they do something about these people?

And gay marriage has been legal less than ten years
That's really nothing st all, is it, forgot it was so recent!

Stonewall turns same-sex attraction into same-gender attraction, rendering it meaningless. This is homophobia. See this poster at my local Stonewalled college.

So according to stonewall a greysexual demiboi and a faegender in a relationship would not be under the gay umbrella as they would not be in a same gender relationship. Every day is a school day

I don't think iklboo thought that nor that they are bigoted. I get pretty fed up at being labelled a heteronormative cis woman and have some sympathy with iklboo's pov here. I find it very strange when homosexuals use their sexuality as the most important thing about them (this is not universal, just some) because I think who you are, not what you are, is more important. That's what iklboo is getting at: why expect praise, or be proud of, your sexuality? It's not something you have achieved.
NB The companionate marriage has been around a couple of centuries but the idea the partners are equal has only existed since the 1990s in the UK, when marital rape was outlawed, before that date a woman was her husband's sexual property.

@Grammarnut - I am iklboo. It was only the first paragraph of my post that wasn't mine. The rest of the comments are.

find it very strange when homosexuals use their sexuality as the most important thing about them (this is not universal, just some) because I think who you are, not what you are, is more important. That's what iklboo is getting at: why expect praise, or be proud of, your sex

That's the absolute opposite of what I'm getting at. It was the other poster who said they should be more proud of sporting or academic achievements (let's not get into what people who haven't had sporting or academic achievements are allowed to be proud of) than being gay.

As the mother of a gay son I'm proud he can be who he is in public and marry who he loves. It's not the most important thing about him and - as you say - most of the gay men (not 'homosexuals' please) aren't proud of being gay. They're proud the CAN be gay. They don't want praise for it. They just want to be accepted and happy.

Allyship for me is being on board and not actively being homophobic. Including kids that are gay in school life and actively discouraging anti-LGBT rhetoric. Not that hard tbh.

Waity everyone’s allowed to voice their opinion. You appear to be the one objecting if everyone doesn’t agree with you. If you want people to agree with you then argue your case, don’t just tell other people to shut up!

My cousin is a lesbian in her 50’s, but she’s dealing with exactly the same sort of shit that Chicken describes (albeit she has less issues with being called names) I know not all transwomen behave this way, but some certainly do

OP definitely ask to look at the teaching materials, and talk to the school about how they are approaching this. Everyone would want schools to ensure they are not discriminating on any protected characteristics, or indeed, in any unreasonable way at all

So would you consider it homophobic to tell you for lesbians If they don’t accept males in their dating they are are bigots and need to stop excluding males? Because that is what my daughter was told at LGBT group. Which is basically conversion therapy. And this was from an LGBT “ally”. Therefore, as that is homophobic, would you say trans ideology should be banned?

It means stay away if you have any sense. They most likely get their curriculum from nefarious organizations and individuals. There will be flags, pronouns, pride parades, and gender neutral toilets.

Trans people get attacked in the street too. You’re allowed to mention them too m, given the context of this thread. Doesn’t make you an ally, don’t worry.

Doesn’t make you an ally, don’t worry.

I'm not, don't worry.

I'd check their website to see if they are a Stonewall champion, or any links to Mermaids.

Sorry I misread you. I am so happy for your son.