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single sex schools

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TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 17:18

Hi. I wondered whether anyone here has deliberately sent their daughter to a traditional single sex school because of the gender shenanigans? I've never liked the idea of single sex schooling in the past, but if you had to choose between a quite traditional single-sex option and a more "woke" mixed sex one, what would you do? TIA.

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SavBbunny · 08/09/2022 17:28

I sent my daughter to a single sex famous cotswold boarding school. Nightmare.
Bullying was rife even by teachers. They are not all ladies by any means. Choose based on happy kids, flexibility and kindness. 'outstanding' in my opinion means conformity. If that suits your daughter fair enough.

Wanda616 · 08/09/2022 17:30

I went to a single sex school and I loved it. No being talked over by boys, no being encouraged towards traditional 'girls' subjects, no silly nonsense about makeup and flirting or dramas about boyfriends. I'd love for my DD to go to a girls school.

PuttingDownRoots · 08/09/2022 17:33

I lived my all girls sixth form.
Would happily send my DDs to one.

I don't think they are immune from "wokeness" though.

TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 17:40

SavBbunny · 08/09/2022 17:28

I sent my daughter to a single sex famous cotswold boarding school. Nightmare.
Bullying was rife even by teachers. They are not all ladies by any means. Choose based on happy kids, flexibility and kindness. 'outstanding' in my opinion means conformity. If that suits your daughter fair enough.

Interesting. I think I agree about conformity and "outstandingness", on the whole. I'm sorry your daughter had a tough time. The school in question here is a state day school, but is also rated "outstanding", I think...

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TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 17:41

Wanda616 · 08/09/2022 17:30

I went to a single sex school and I loved it. No being talked over by boys, no being encouraged towards traditional 'girls' subjects, no silly nonsense about makeup and flirting or dramas about boyfriends. I'd love for my DD to go to a girls school.

Thanks @Wanda616 - that's useful and interesting. I do think it sounds like there are lots of benefits - especially when you put it like that!

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FreudayNight · 08/09/2022 17:42

Wanda616 · 08/09/2022 17:30

I went to a single sex school and I loved it. No being talked over by boys, no being encouraged towards traditional 'girls' subjects, no silly nonsense about makeup and flirting or dramas about boyfriends. I'd love for my DD to go to a girls school.

This was my experience too. Loved it.

TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 17:43

PuttingDownRoots · 08/09/2022 17:33

I lived my all girls sixth form.
Would happily send my DDs to one.

I don't think they are immune from "wokeness" though.

Brilliant to hear. Wow, even single sex at 6th form!
This particular school doesn't seem very "woke", I think because of the specific details of its specific catchment.

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Beautiful3 · 08/09/2022 17:43

I went to a mixed school, which I hated. I moved to an all girls one I loved it. I moved closer to it, for my daughter to attend. They changed it to mixed!!! I was gutted.

TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 17:45

Beautiful3 · 08/09/2022 17:43

I went to a mixed school, which I hated. I moved to an all girls one I loved it. I moved closer to it, for my daughter to attend. They changed it to mixed!!! I was gutted.

Ah, damn, that sounds beyond annoying after you moved house!
Glad to hear you had a good time, though.

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Pleasecouldihavesomeadvice · 08/09/2022 17:48

For girls yes. For my boys no.

It’s shown that girls do better at single sex schools. But boys do not thrive so well.

Sparklfairy · 08/09/2022 17:49

I went to an all girls, we shared our school bus with the mixed sex next door and the boys were so annoying Wink

I'm not sure how things are there now. If non binary was a thing back when I was there I think at least half of my friendship group would be non binary or trans.

canyouextrapol · 08/09/2022 17:57

I work at a girls school. Lot less bitchy then the Co Ed's I've been at previously. However it is incredibly "woke" and there are a lot of girls announcing they are boys and we've been told to use boys names without parental permission in the past which I'm incredibly uncomfortable with

TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 18:14

Pleasecouldihavesomeadvice · 08/09/2022 17:48

For girls yes. For my boys no.

It’s shown that girls do better at single sex schools. But boys do not thrive so well.

Oh that's very interesting - thanks

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TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 18:16

Sparklfairy · 08/09/2022 17:49

I went to an all girls, we shared our school bus with the mixed sex next door and the boys were so annoying Wink

I'm not sure how things are there now. If non binary was a thing back when I was there I think at least half of my friendship group would be non binary or trans.

Strangely, it's apparently only a tiny minority of non-binary/trans boys at the school near us. But of course that could change.
I also found the boys at my (mixed) school quite annoying and at times traumatic.

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TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 18:17

canyouextrapol · 08/09/2022 17:57

I work at a girls school. Lot less bitchy then the Co Ed's I've been at previously. However it is incredibly "woke" and there are a lot of girls announcing they are boys and we've been told to use boys names without parental permission in the past which I'm incredibly uncomfortable with

Good to hear it's less, rather than more, bitchy than the co-eds you know.
I did wonder whether single sex girls' schools might lend themselves to huge numbers of trans "boys" to "fill the gap"!

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TheMagicPaintbrush · 08/09/2022 18:18

It's encouraging that, so far, no one on this thread has said "no, don't do it" about all girls schools...

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SavBbunny · 08/09/2022 19:20

@canyouextrapol how interesting.
The school my daughter attended refused to acknowledge our child's gender dysphoria. It was completely unknown to us until after she left.
It has taken years for her to get over the bullying and shame.
When we found out what she had been through no wonder she developed SEMH.

TeenDivided · 08/09/2022 19:25

I was educated in a single sex environment from 7 to 21 (my college at university was women only).
I do think it has massive advantages educationally and in a sensible school would avoid gender stereotypes. I'm not totally convinced on it for 16+ though.

TQIDLLTK · 08/09/2022 20:34

Always scraps in mixed sex school, virtually none in single sex school. Much greater focus on actual education with strong emphasis on STEM and zero question of any subject or career being unsuitable for women. Girls benefit immensely from single sex schools.

mdh2020 · 08/09/2022 20:47

DH and I both went to single sex Grammar Schools. DD insisted on a single sex for secondary education. Didn’t care which school, as long as there were no boys. We sent DS to single sex because we felt he needed the discipline and no distractions. Didn’t stop any of us from socialising with the opposite sex.

HeadAboveTheParapet · 08/09/2022 20:53

Fucking hates my single sex school.

Screwed up my ability to trust women and make female friends.

Lots of women I've spoken to say the same thing.....

Absolutely no way I was doing that to my own girls.

HeadAboveTheParapet · 08/09/2022 20:55

TQIDLLTK · 08/09/2022 20:34

Always scraps in mixed sex school, virtually none in single sex school. Much greater focus on actual education with strong emphasis on STEM and zero question of any subject or career being unsuitable for women. Girls benefit immensely from single sex schools.

Not true. The two worst pupil on pupil attacks happened in girls schools in our nice middle class area.
One school had to change it's name because the attack was top of the search engines.

TQIDLLTK · 08/09/2022 21:24

I was talking about my experience as requested by OP.

Setyoufree · 08/09/2022 21:29

I went to a mixed school. I hope to send my daughters to a traditional all girls. The ethos there is of being proud to be a woman. They're at mixed primary at the moment and I am sick to the back teeth of being told stories every day about how some boys are riding roughshod over everyone else, disrupting everyone else's ability to learn. If I could move them to an all girls primary, I would. As is I have to wait for secondary and hope for the best, otherwise they'll be going to an exceptionally woke mixed state secondary, unfortunately

waterwitch · 08/09/2022 21:45

My friend’s DD is at an all girls school - maybe 2/3rds of the girls there identifying as trans or non-binary. Mine is at a mixed school, where trans or non-binary identity are almost unknown. NB, this doesn’t stop some of the boys putting their hair in bunches, or some girls wearing trousers, but they don’t seem to see that as an ‘identity’, just as an experiment to see if they like it.

The School’s approach is far more important than single sex v mixed in my experience