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It’s devastating to think what teenage girls are making of the anti Amber Heard misogyny right now
carefulvulvadriver · 27/05/2022 17:31
i don’t follow celebs, but I’ve experienced DV, and I’ve been watching some of the depp v heard court footage.
It just struck me today, as I walked past a group of teenage school girls: The absolute wall to wall misogyny that is all over social media. It must be both terrifying and also hugely gaslighting to them. I worry how many at vulnerable age will just internalise this woman hatred rather than be able to stand up to it and see it for what it is.
i don’t have a teenage daughter. those that do: how are they seeing this? how do you talk to them about it? I don’t care if the ruling goes against her (I’ve seen enough of the evidence to be very certain he was abusive and clearly violent, but I don’t have faith the jury will agree) it’s the wider impact on what this has shown about what the world thinks of women that will have a bigger impact
snalian · 27/05/2022 17:44
I'm afraid I agree that she is probably a narcissistic liar and abuser, from the evidence presented and her behaviour. If I am right about that then she is the lowest kind of low, using the genuine suffering of others to get attention.
I'm not misogynistic in the slightest, just because she is a woman it doesn't mean she can't being a lying scumbag.
IncognitoAF · 27/05/2022 17:47
TheSnowyOwl · 27/05/2022 17:35
It just struck me today, as I walked past a group of teenage school girls: The absolute wall to wall misogyny that is all over social media.
Today?! It’s only today that the social media misogyny has become apparent to you??
That's the important part about the OP, sure.
Notaneffingcockerspaniel · 27/05/2022 17:52
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carefulvulvadriver · 27/05/2022 17:55
No, @TheSnowyOwl. it struck me today the amount of shit on social media about this particular case and how there is a generation of young women for whom social media is a thing in a way I can barely understand because I barely use it and it wasn’t a thing when I was their age. But I hope it gave you a little boost to find something to go on the attack about. Jesus mumsnet. I wanted to try and have a conversation about it and was seeking views perhaps from women with teenage daughters about how it is being discussed amongst younger age groups.
Perhaps you might also have stopped and noted the comment I made in my opening sentence. It has been very hard watching this case. I tried to ignore it for a while and am now only getting to the point of being able to think about the wider ramifications
FictionalCharacter · 27/05/2022 17:56
I do think many of them are internalising it. Challenging this with teenagers is like swimming against a tsunami that’s all over TikTok and Instagram. And of course their parents’ generation is portrayed as old, out of touch and irrelevant - we “don’t understand” the world as it is now - so they are being trained on social media to dismiss everything we say.
Leopolds · 29/05/2022 10:07
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dolphinsarentcommon · 29/05/2022 18:25
Hopefully those teenage girls are open minded and wise enough to have worked out there's no black and white.. just because she's a woman doesn't make her blameless.
She comes across as a nasty piece of work. I'm sure they know some like it themselves. .
SchoolThing · 29/05/2022 18:28
I appreciate your post. My teenage daughter has been very badly affected by this. She says it’s on everything all the time and that she cannot bear it, that she’s unfollowed and blocked a number of people who have identified as Depp supporters. I feel much the same way but being older I can filter better. It really has affected her mental health.
SchoolThing · 29/05/2022 18:29
dolphinsarentcommon · 29/05/2022 18:25
Hopefully those teenage girls are open minded and wise enough to have worked out there's no black and white.. just because she's a woman doesn't make her blameless.
She comes across as a nasty piece of work. I'm sure they know some like it themselves. .
Oh do stop, there are so many places where you can vent your hatred, why can’t you let this thread be?
SchoolThing · 29/05/2022 18:34
Libertaire · 29/05/2022 18:19
If those teenagers have any sense, they will realise that Heard & Depp are two utterly loathsome, toxic individuals who deserved one another and that nobody should believe a single word either of them say about anything.
Of course teenagers have sense, what a strange and mean spirited post.
There is so much more to this than two individuals, it is the toxicity of a system and a nation where men and money are gods, and where greed prevails. That it is televised is appalling.
Awrite · 29/05/2022 18:37
I have a teenage daughter. She's almost 17. We talk a lot about misogyny. With regards to the Amber Heard case, I don't know much and haven't got the time to read up on it so we discuss how it's being reported and the impact this will have on women who are being abused.
She can see it.
Tillsforthrills · 29/05/2022 18:49
The young teenage females in our family understand how this will we weaponised against women and DV victims.
They understand that Amber isn’t innocent.
They understand that women are hugely disproportionately affected by DV and sexual harassment.
They understand that men are mostly physically stronger than women.
They understand that AH is and will be used by people as evidenced on this thread and others apparently worrying them ‘about my boys/boys”
They understand the witch-hunt going on and the profound hatred of women thus the glee at finally having one to make a scapegoat out of when men just get excused. “Yeah he’s off his head with drugs and alcohol but he’s a lovely bloke” “yeah he wrote about killing, drowning, burning and raping but it was just a Monty python reference” etc etc etc
DorothyZbornakIsAQueen · 29/05/2022 23:45
My dd is 13. She said the other day in school a boy pushed one of her classmates. She said 'ow, that hurt' and he told her to 'stop being an Amber Heard'
This televised trial has been a win for misogyny. The :'global humiliation' JD wished on AH, has happened on a grand scale. Probably better than he could have ever hoped for.
It has done absolutely fuck all for victims of domestic abuse.
There are no winners here.
SchoolThing · 30/05/2022 00:23
DorothyZbornakIsAQueen · 29/05/2022 23:45
My dd is 13. She said the other day in school a boy pushed one of her classmates. She said 'ow, that hurt' and he told her to 'stop being an Amber Heard'
This televised trial has been a win for misogyny. The :'global humiliation' JD wished on AH, has happened on a grand scale. Probably better than he could have ever hoped for.
It has done absolutely fuck all for victims of domestic abuse.
There are no winners here.
Oh my god that makes me feel sick.
Leopolds · 30/05/2022 01:15
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TheWeeDonkey · 30/05/2022 15:07
I haven't been paying attention to it. It bores the 💩 out of me but I think they're as bad as each other so I have little sympathy for either of them. If anything this is a lesson in not giving in to your mid life crisis, if he hadn't been led by his dick neither of them would be in this mess. As it is they've both ruined their careers and reputation.
I do wonder why so much is going on in the world, these 2 seem to be stealing all the headlines, but then people love to gossip don't they.
redcream · 30/05/2022 15:12
My teenage DD has enough brain cells to realise what’s going on in this trial. Amber Heard is not the victim. In fact she's done a huge disservice to genuine victims of DV.
My DD is too busy revising for her A levels and doing sport to get too bothered about what scumbags say on social media.
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