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The tiger that came to tea

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Mango1982 · 25/08/2021 08:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9920825/Tiger-Came-Tea-lead-rape-harassment-campaigner-claims.html


This kind of nonsense is why I am not a feminist and it really hurts your cause it’s exactly in the same vain as company’s saying pregnant people

It’s bat shit

Some feminists were saying it promotes sexist stereotypes


Iam a stay at home mother their is nothing wrong with that and I do get the feeling that feminists hate the traditional family set up and I don’t understand why
I am not being made to stay at home if anything I felt pressure to work in the past witch ended up being harmful to my mental health and my family

Why shouldn’t girls be able to feel ok with wanting to be a stay at home and raise their children if that’s something they think they would like to do

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Mango1982 · 25/08/2021 08:24

I often find my self only allowing my kids to watch and have books pre 2000 because their not full of woke shit

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MonsignorMirth · 25/08/2021 08:25

Who's cause? Who are you talking to?
You're complaining about a Daily Mail article.

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MonsignorMirth · 25/08/2021 08:26

I think you misunderstand what feminism is op. It's definitely not about telling women they need to work.
Hope that helps!

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 25/08/2021 08:28

I think you are taking the Daily Mail too seriously.
A feminist has pointed out that the relationships in the book are very old fashioned, which they are. A DM journalist has picked this up for click bait. There is not a feminist campaign against The Tiger Who Came To Tea.

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pleasekeeptotheright · 25/08/2021 08:28

You clicked the bait. Bless.

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CaptainMyCaptain · 25/08/2021 08:29

This is not new. The issue was raised on a course I went on in the early 90s (I was an Early Years teacher). I still read the story but always asked the children at different points in the story what their Mum would do. Their mums were always more proactive than the mum in the story but it made them think about it. When the Dad turned up I asked where they think he had been and, in my area, they usually said 'the pub'. When asked where they would go for tea if there was no food in the house the best suggestion I got was 'go to your nan's then you won't have to pay'. I think the women were the reliable, resourceful parents in their world and they loved the story.

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MonsignorMirth · 25/08/2021 08:29

Op, if you ignore the DM prose, are you able to quote what the person reported in the article actually said and what you find incorrect with it?

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 25/08/2021 08:29

@TheCountessofFitzdotterel

I think you are taking the Daily Mail too seriously.
A feminist has pointed out that the relationships in the book are very old fashioned, which they are. A DM journalist has picked this up for click bait. There is not a feminist campaign against The Tiger Who Came To Tea.

This basically

Its one woman’s comment, not a manifesto
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ChickpeaCrunch · 25/08/2021 08:29

Nah the Daily Mail just blew up what she said.

This kind of nonsense is why I am not a feminist and it really hurts your cause it’s exactly in the same vain as company’s saying pregnant people interested to know what you were saying here.

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 25/08/2021 08:30

When my youngest was very young he used to say that ‘daddy goes to work to play golf’

Nothing to do with the thread I know….

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TheMarzipanDildo · 25/08/2021 08:32

OP, I’m not going to stop liking the Tiger that Came to Tea because someone has thought about the family dynamic, and you don’t have to either. It’s not the law. HTH.

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lanadelgrey · 25/08/2021 08:33

Well the Dad does descend as a feud ex machina to sort it all out at the end, so it’s v much a story that reflects when it was written BUT you can read with jokey commentary or slightly change the ending. DD turned out strongly GC despite many readings and was well aware of the context.we talked about the kitchen design and her grandparents kind of life as we went along.

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Mango1982 · 25/08/2021 08:33

TheCountessofFitzdotterel

It’s not old fashioned ay 🧐loads of women stay at home to look after their children either for the first 5 years or till secondary


Also those deriding the daily Mail just remember they are the ones currently standing up for women’s sex based rights it’s symptomatic of the woke times we live in you judge what’s being said by who’s saying it father than if it’s true thought many of the women on here would of learned by now about the false guardian/vs daily Mail narrative

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Mango1982 · 25/08/2021 08:34

I live on a council estate most of the mums round here work only PT at most but most of the mums are stay at home mums
I am a dinner lady and work 1 hour a day

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sticktomygun · 25/08/2021 08:35

I love theories about this book. There's a great one about Mussolini and fascism.

My kid loves this book and I'm not a stay at mom, the relationship is old fashioned - its not a critique of stay-at-home mothers to point that out.

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RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 25/08/2021 08:36

just remember they are the ones currently standing up for women’s sex based rights

They are indeed

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Frogsonglue · 25/08/2021 08:37

It annoys me because it says "daddy's beer", I always changed it to "mummy's beer" when I read it to my kids Grin
OP, however much you love being a stay-at-home mum (I was also primary carer when my kids were small), it's undeniable that most children's books perpetuate the stereotype of mums at home providing food and childcare while dads are put in the world working and earning, and generally doing all the other human activities apart from cooking and caring. And when there are problems to be overcome, it's generally the dads who swoop in and fix everything (I'm also looking at you, Fantastic Mr Fox). I try really hard to present my children with narratives that show women in a whole range of roles and jobs, and it's an uphill battle, especially with early years literature. I'm by no means a snowflake.

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Mango1982 · 25/08/2021 08:37

www.joe.co.uk/news/the-tiger-who-came-to-tea-could-lead-to-rape-and-harassment-campaigner-claims-285997


Here we go for those who can only feel pure if there getting the same story from a woke new outlet

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Kanaloa · 25/08/2021 08:37

You don’t believe women have the right to equality because of an article in the daily mail about a picture book?

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Coreblimy · 25/08/2021 08:38

You do realise this is Mumsnet? The viper's nest itself. I can't think of a collective who've done more for mobilising the fight for women's sex based rights than MN. It certainly wasn't the daily mail.

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SpindleWhorl · 25/08/2021 08:38

Hi, Mango, I hope you are having a lovely day on Mumsnet.

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MonsignorMirth · 25/08/2021 08:38

Right op, so you think the thing that is being criticised is that the mother in the book doesn't work? Is that right?
I don't think that's what the person quoted has said.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 25/08/2021 08:39

The Times are reporting this today and I agree OP. I'm very uneasy about dismissing all literature (for children and adults) that fails to conform to someone's ideas of acceptability.

The book is a charming fantasy - lovely to read aloud with a child and it's a massive leap to suggest that because of the family roles this is the precursor to boys growing up to be rapists.

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VashtaNerada · 25/08/2021 08:40

Yep, you fell for it alright! Someone has sensibly pointed out that if children only have access to books with stereotypical gender roles it can perpetuate those stereotypes. Nobody has called for any books to be banned, they’ve just spoken about the context in which they are shared. If you read the article properly it’s very clear that the DM is just being sensational to get people to read the article.

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RoyalCorgi · 25/08/2021 08:40

Zero Tolerance has drunk the Kool Aid, so I am not inclined to take any statements from them seriously.

It's not feminist to object to The Tiger Who Came to Tea, a brilliant, much-loved book that was created by a woman who fled the Nazis with her family in 1930s. If anything, Judith Kerr is a fantastic role model for girls, demonstrating that it's possible to have a happy marriage, raise two children and sustain a stellar career over 50 years.

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