Feminism: chat
I really hope this will help drive change...ErrolTheDragon · 05/07/2021 17:35
@myspicynutsarefried
Thanks
If you go to www.letclothesbeclothes.co.uk
It's the piece titled 'School Uniform: Dressing Girls to Fail (2021)
Thanks Katie.
SusannaM · 05/07/2021 18:33
I've never been able to work out why girls uniforms don't just switch to trousers. That would get rid of all the hemline & modesty shorts panics in a swoop.
Some girls really prefer skirts (never wear them myself), my daughter says periods are easier to manage in a skirt. Very few girls wear trousers at her school.
I was shocked to read that some schools don't allow trousers, I thought that was actually illegal.
KimikosNightmare · 05/07/2021 19:00
@RayonSunrise
Try reading the report. There are reasons given by girls they consulted with.
The authors clearly would like to do what you suggest but the girls and women they consulted didn't agree.
SometimesIFeedTheSparrows · 05/07/2021 20:04
My DD's uniform is a prime example. £25 a skirt from the uniform suppliers, and boys can wear supermarket trousers. The reason it is so expensive- despite being a grey, unlogoed skirt- is because it has a bright coloured stripe around the waistband which is supposed to prevent the girls from rolling the skirt up.
- It doesn't prevent any rolling
2. The skirt only comes in 1 length so the whole "must be on the knee" depends on the width of the girl as much as anything. You have a tall, thin child and the waistband could be seen from space but the skirt would still be too short.
WarriorN · 05/07/2021 20:13
Shoes; my son can wear one pair of decent school shoes for a full year (we've not hit the crazy growth spurt but yet.) using trainers too now due to Covid rules but he'd have those anyway.
Friends with girls have autumn shoes, winter boots, summer sandals etc. Also frequently v flimsy and tend to need replacing frequently.
I teach children with autism and with some groups of children, those who have intensive sensory and physical programmes, including lots of outdoors, its extremely noticeable how impractical girl's shoes and some clothes are.
ErrolTheDragon · 05/07/2021 20:14
@WarriorN
I'm sure a lot of girls would like a choice.
Which makes the greater cost of the 'girls' items even more unacceptable.
Poppins2016 · 05/07/2021 20:22
@RayonSunrise
I think having a choice is a good thing... I would have hated wearing trousers as a child/teenager, still do now. This is partly due to being self conscious in trousers, finding a pair that fit properly/are flattering is a nightmare, plus I have endometriosis and require the flexibility of a skirt that can ride up or down comfortably depending on bloating.
thehumansaredead · 05/07/2021 20:34
Excellent report. Well done.
I have just been in talks with my kids secondary school about the uniform policy. They have removed the male & female division in their policy & agreed to change the skirt wording from 'modest fit' to standard length.
I'd still like them to stop all the emphasis on skirt length but I didn't win that battle.
Wish I'd seen this report before I had a meeting with them.
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