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Feminism: chat

What are the top three issues facing women today (uk)

110 replies

Sittinginthesand · 21/06/2021 16:10

I think it’s the fact that the word ‘woman’ is being framed as shameful. Closely followed by our over sexualised society and the continued existence of the glass ceiling. Unfortunately 1 makes the other two harder to measure and fight - especially if we can’t discuss it.

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geojellyfish · 21/06/2021 23:35
  1. Violence against and sexual objectification of women and girls - and no one in position of power, such as governments or technology providers, stepping up to take meaningful action to prevent it.
  1. Undervaluation and devaluation of care, perpetuating economic inequality between the sexes.
  1. Failure to disaggregate data collection on basis of sex or acknowledge sex differences, reinforcing position of men as 'default' person and leading to poorer health outcomes for women, while creating communities and products that leave 50% of us under-catered to/for.
minipie · 21/06/2021 23:49

Violence - DV, rape and sexual assault
Porn’s influence on attitude and expectations towards sex (and women generally)
Continued imbalance in expectations on men vs women regarding childcare/domestic tasks (with knock on effect on work and pay imbalance)

Lots of other contenders - lack of focus on or investment in female health issues; increasing gender stereotyping; the redefinition of “woman” as a feeling rather than a biological fact and the knock on effect on women’s safe spaces.

Outside the UK - many many others.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 22/06/2021 01:39

Gender ideology, especially the high numbers of girls being referred to the Tavistock & women’s prisons being mixed-sex.

Porn and the objectification of women.

Male violence.

Susannahmoody · 22/06/2021 01:41
  1. Cost of childcare. Needs to be fee or heavily subsidised.
  2. Free tuition, especially in nursing /midwifery /early childhood education.
  3. Porn and how it's so unregulated.
DaisiesandButtercups · 22/06/2021 06:16

The increasing use of “inclusive” or gender neutral language. For example how can a philosophy of women centred care be implemented in maternity and breastfeeding support when “parents” and “families” are now the focus instead of women or mothers. This will accelerate the problems of women being seen as “breeders” and worsen the treatment of women in pregnancy and birth. It also makes it easier to exploit women through surrogacy and remove our bodily autonomy by prioritising the foetus. No doubt it has impact in all areas of women’s health and other areas of life too.

Pornography and the pornification of society. It brings out the worst in men and boys and leads to objectification and sexualisation of women and girls from a young age. It exacerbates all forms of male violence.

Economic disadvantage despite the higher academic attainment of women and girls in education.

Liberal feminism, queer theory gender identity ideology.

eurochick · 22/06/2021 06:38

Gender ideology - centring harmful stereotypes over biological sex.

Violence against women and girls.

The fact that the workplace is still largely designed to suit men who have a wife at home and therefore disadvantages women with caring responsibilities.

MarshaBradyo · 22/06/2021 06:42

Interesting gender ideology, language and other versions is mentioned so often on our now separated board where we can’t name the other board.

We can see the impact of what we want to stop on here.

Cowbells · 22/06/2021 07:48

where we can’t name the other board.

What do you mean? I don't understand this. Since the creation of the new board are there rules about what to post where?

MarshaBradyo · 22/06/2021 07:50

@Cowbells

where we can’t name the other board.

What do you mean? I don't understand this. Since the creation of the new board are there rules about what to post where?

People who use the sex based board would like to have a title which isn’t what mnhq want to use

Due to being mindful of gender ideology and language

Something that is nearly on every post as top issue for feminists on thread

Cowbells · 22/06/2021 07:52

Oh - OK. Name literally means name. I misunderstood it to mean 'mention'. Thank you.

drspouse · 22/06/2021 10:40
  1. We can't say who's a woman.
  2. We can't say who's a man.
  3. We can't say the word "sex".
Beowulfa · 22/06/2021 12:26

Rather than the obvious perpetrators (the rapists, leerers, gropers, stalkers, wife-beaters, pornographers etc) I'd like to see focus on the enablers, the otherwise Jolly Nice people:

-the educated middle class parents who can't imagine their delightful son would ever be on a WhatsApp group rating female classmates' tits, so don't check his phone.
-the schools who've signed up to Stonewall, so that's diversity sorted, so no need to review outdated sexist uniform policy, listen to concerns about toilets, set boundaries, understand science or ban phones.
-the employers who put rainbow flags out during Pride and have HR use the word "inclusive" 45 times in each policy, but don't promote those who've taken maternity leave.
-the publicly progressive types who earnestly retweet Black Lives Matter, but think JK Rowling is a terrible transphobe, because the internet says so.
-university management (and very highly paid they are too) who allow cancel culture, authorise sex work to be promoted to students whilst not giving a shit about bullying.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 22/06/2021 15:41
  1. Male supremacism, which is now so blatant that it forbids women to meet or organise.
  2. The gender identity movement, which undermines women’s single-sex rights.
  3. Male violence, both physical and in the form of violent pornography.
CorvusPurpureus · 22/06/2021 15:54
  1. gender ideology - the continual erosion of women's rights, including the right to organise as a discrete group
  2. porn in the mainstream teaching boys that women are objects
  3. generally, the contempt with which many men, including the Not My Nigels, hold women. Turbo charged both by 1 & 2.
Ghislainedefeligonde · 22/06/2021 16:02

1.Gender ideology
2.Male violence
3.Porn culture (with 2 and 3 also leading to huge numbers of girls/young women trying to abandon being female by transitioning)

334bu · 22/06/2021 16:39

Failure to disaggregate data collection on basis of sex or acknowledge sex differences, reinforcing position of men as 'default' person and leading to poorer health outcomes for women, while creating communities and products that leave 50% of us under-catered to/for.

100% this and this is why ONS case was so important.

PatchyTwat · 22/06/2021 16:43

1 - the over sexualisation of women and the sexual violence and expectation that drives

2 - the role of women to be all things to all men and all society

3 - gender ideology

AuntieStella · 22/06/2021 16:46
  1. the culture exposed by 'Everyone's Invited'
  2. the many factors perpetuating economic unfairness and pensioner poverty in particular (something all too often not focussed on, until it looms for the individual)
  3. the pernicious effects of 'pinkification' and the reinforcement of detrimental stereotypes
KimikosNightmare · 22/06/2021 17:38

Normalisation of prostitution and pornography.

Violence against women and children.

The normalisation of surrogacy.

adviceseekingnamechanger · 22/06/2021 18:00
  1. Male violence and male entitlement (gender)
  2. Porn culture
  3. Idiotic women who subscribe to gender ideology and think TWAW. You're turkeys voting for Christmas. And it creates an unnecessary obstacle to fully organising as a sex class to make any sort of political change.
mollythemeerkat · 22/06/2021 18:16

Seems like the majority of posters on this thread see gender ideology as a major issue for feminism - interesting that its coming up on this board.

TRHR · 22/06/2021 18:26
  1. One woman killed every 3 days, usually by straight men they know
  2. Rape convictions so low that men can 'get away with it' (again, usually straight men, usually know the woman)
  3. Other domestic violence

Whilst women are literally being killed and attacked by men they know and the police do nothing, I CANNOT understand how other posts think the identity of 1% of population has a greater impact on women's lives.

jeffuk2015 · 22/06/2021 18:35
  1. Marketing.

These people understand psychology better than anybody. Women are bombarded by marketing from every side how they should strive to be within the top 1% with any means necessary. That kills them inside, turns them into drones that have to buy and consume because that's what the marketing agencies tell them and because all their peers are doing as well. The risk of not going with that, is being alienated, and there is nothing worse for a female than being socially isolated.

  1. The beauty industry (kind of related to 1)

This industry is why most anorexia cases have been females.
The beauty industry mainly targets females while knowing that females are concerned (obsessed?) with physical appearance and why most female bullying is fully based on appearance and nothing else.

  1. Fake men.
nosafeguardingadults · 22/06/2021 19:14

Unaffordable housing, violence against women, bad attitudes towards middle age and older women like you become worthless from that age and life worth nothing. All linked especially unaffordable housing and violence against women. Women like me stay with violence cos nowhere permanently safe to go.

334bu · 22/06/2021 19:21

Whilst women are literally being killed and attacked by men they know and the police do nothing, I CANNOT understand how other posts think the identity of 1% of population has a greater impact on women's lives.

Because the male half of that group transwomen are just as likely to be sex offenders, violent towards women as any other male. Two of those women killed in the last year we're killed by transwomen . Therefore including them in our safe spaces makes no more sense than including all other males.

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