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What are the top three issues facing women today (uk)

110 replies

Sittinginthesand · 21/06/2021 16:10

I think it’s the fact that the word ‘woman’ is being framed as shameful. Closely followed by our over sexualised society and the continued existence of the glass ceiling. Unfortunately 1 makes the other two harder to measure and fight - especially if we can’t discuss it.

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Datun · 21/06/2021 16:52

@lazylinguist

I've said this before, but I genuinely believe that feminism should be taught in schools. I can't see any downside to it whatsoever.

Hear hear. I'm ashamed to say that has actually never occurred to me, and I'm a teacher.

I've often thought it could be very interesting. Starting with the actual laws that women had to abide by. Like how society in general appear to think it was fine that women were paid less than men, for the same job, just because they were women.

And then exploring how it has changed. Or not.

I'm sure that many youngsters today have zero idea, for instance, that marital rape was completely legal in the early 90s.

I've actually had a conversation with my friend's daughter who didn't believe me.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 21/06/2021 16:52

Well this separation of subtopics is going well isn't it 😁

I wonder if MN have twigged yet 🤔

1- The attempts of TRAs to erase women and the threat to our sex based rights and safe spaces
2- Male violence and misogyny
3-Porn

Helleofabore · 21/06/2021 16:53

I'd like to add the restriction of free speech for women who feel that there is an impact on their rights from other groups.

That is actually a pretty significant issue too.

LimpLettice · 21/06/2021 16:54

When even on bloody Mumsnet we can't name feminism as a sex based movement fighting against gender stereotypes, in a time when austerity and Covid have disproportionately affected women badly because of our sex based differences, it's bloody hard to choose 3. I'd say

Gender ideology, vast amounts of which are swathed in

Pornography and the sexualisation of women throughout society

Male violence against women

BeBloodyBold · 21/06/2021 16:54

I can only speak from a UK perspective, I'm sure globally there are others.

  1. Male violence and toxic masculinity
  2. The role of women as carers. This includes: women as default parents, women caring for elderly relations, and the poor pay attached to caring roles including care assistants, healthcare assistants and nursery workers.
  3. Toxic positivity (for example #bekind) anything that tries to keep women small and contained.

These are three areas where I will be concentrating all my feminist energies on.

YellowFish12 · 21/06/2021 16:55
  1. The attempts to erase women as a group, the attempts to silence women who speak out, and the attempts to remove sex-based rights and spaces.
  1. Male violence and entitlement towards women
  1. Can’t decide, so many pressing issues.
Lottapianos · 21/06/2021 16:56

Great thread idea

  1. Denial of 'woman' as a biological reality, rather than a feeling in a man's head or a set of stereotypes
  2. The level and ubiquity of violence we face from men
  3. Normalisation of pornography in society
Sittinginthesand · 21/06/2021 17:14

Really interesting replies, depressing though. I wonder how the top 3 varies with age?

Strawberry- I don’t know what you mean 🙉!

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GNCQ · 21/06/2021 17:21

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MummBraTheEverLeaking · 21/06/2021 17:21

Male violence against females, and by this I'm talking murder, rape, coercion, everything in between and the shocking stats on justice.

Porn, and the expectations that females like being choked, slapped, spat at etc, boys and young men being fed this, and girls and women thinking it's normal.

Self ID.

Noapplejustcrumble · 21/06/2021 17:26
  1. Male violence and misogyny
  1. Violent and abusive Porn
  1. The inability of those in charge to want to deal with the extreme problems of the above
GNCQ · 21/06/2021 17:26

^I quoted a random post there.

I've asked for my above post to be delete (because although I agree with what was said it doesn't really follow on to my post)

Here are my top three:

  1. the porn epidemic
  2. the male violence epidemic
  3. the economic and social vulnerability that comes as a consequence of being of the sex who gives birth and nurtures babies.
mollythemeerkat · 21/06/2021 17:30
  1. The attempt to erase women`s existence as a separate category and replace it with trans ideology.
  2. Male violence towards women and girls.
  3. Many things but i think forced sexualisation of girls and violent pornography
Whatwouldscullydo · 21/06/2021 17:32

Ooh where to start.

Being able to define sex would he a start I mean you cant solve issues you cant see if its obscured by mangled language.

Education. Girls are stereotyped out of all the subjects that might get them somewhere in life.

Violence. Being able to name who's doing it. And to who. And not have it framed as our fault in some way with a " successful bank manager and father of two stabbed wife after she argued about washing up" style headline

MrsWooster · 21/06/2021 17:33
  1. The right to define sex as the axis of oppression of women, which hinges on the right to define woman as Adult Human Female.
  2. Pornification of society
  3. Reinforcement of gender stereotypes-the sort of stuff that ‘Let Toys Be Toys’ addresses.
TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2021 17:34

Violence against women.
Women's health.
Poverty and economic disadvantage.

334bu · 21/06/2021 17:47

Violence against women
Removal of our right to name ourselves and have our very particular needs met all to appease some members of the male sex.
Porn and the reframing of female sexual exploitation as " sex work"

somethinginoffensive · 21/06/2021 18:10
  1. What is a woman?
  2. What is a woman?
  3. What is a woman?
TheElementsSong · 21/06/2021 18:13

@ArabellaScott

If you can't describe sex, you can't fight sexism.

If you can't describe 'woman', you can't fight for women's rights.

If women can't openly discuss the issues that they want to discuss, they are being silenced.

This!
Aroundtheworldin80moves · 21/06/2021 18:17
  1. Allowing 'gender' and stereotypes to take over from sex based rights
  2. Women being seen as objects, including prostition, rape, porn and surrogacy
  3. Safe and easy access to abortion
Memlane · 21/06/2021 18:21
  1. Male Violence
  2. Financial prospects post children
  3. Women’s healthcare

So hard to think of 3, way harder if it was internationally too. Scary times.

malloo · 21/06/2021 18:22
  1. Gender ideology
  2. Male violence
  3. Online pornography
ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 21/06/2021 18:35

Male violence

Gender stereotypes v biological reality

Default male as the standard in medicine, product design, architecture etc. Women are not scaled down versions of men.

Orangecircling · 21/06/2021 18:37

The demise of marriage comes up a lot with the younger generation in my family, male and female.

They have seen their parents marriages fail at a far higher rate than their grandparents generation.

I supposed if you combine that with the fact that there is no longer a pay gap for women in the age cohorts below 40 at least women are not as economically impacted as they were by not marrying two generations ago.

These are generalisations of course but it has made me think about a substantial change taking place for women which has challenges and opportunities.

CaptainSmartarse · 21/06/2021 18:43

Poverty (including racism and healthcare,housing ,class system)
Violence against women and girls (I include grooming and porn in that )
Women's rights
All enforced by gender ideology and our current political parties .

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