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Content warning: Hugely upsetting, DV and murder, Spain, protests

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ArabellaScott · 16/06/2021 10:04

Please don't read this if you're feeling fragile.

I just wanted to do something, say something, because this monstrous shit is unbearable. When will they stop?

Father kills his daughters to hurt his ex in Spain.

I just don't know what to do anymore. Crying for the girls and for their mother and everyone who is affected by this. What do we do? When does it stop?


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QuentinBunbury · 16/06/2021 10:16

Oh that's horrendous. Evil evil man.
I agree too,, this happens far too much and if you even hint a man could do this its all outrage at "misandry"
How are women meant to protect themselves from men like this? They don't wear a sign. Clever, charming and manipulative, by the time the woman realises who she's had children with its too late. Sad

ArabellaScott · 16/06/2021 10:26

I don't know, Quentin. I think there are warning signs, at least fairly often. Both in the early stages of a relationship and when an abuser is escalating.

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Roonerspismed · 16/06/2021 10:31

That poor woman.

risefromyourgrave · 16/06/2021 10:32

We need to teach men that people are not commodities to be used as they see fit, as revenge against other people.
I do feel that the sex trade feeds this sense of entitlement in some men.

Eyesofdisarray · 16/06/2021 10:36

The poor mum. What an horrendous, cruel act

BraveBananaBadge · 16/06/2021 11:55

Read it this morning in utter shock and disbelief. Those poor little girls.

purpleboy · 16/06/2021 12:15

What is the solution to this? I just despair, I don't know how we can ever change this behavior, especially when so many people minimize male violence.
That poor mother, it's just heartbreaking.

ArabellaScott · 16/06/2021 12:26

I know, I'm sorry, I don't have solutions, I just am floored by this. I can't begin to understand it.

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endofthelinefinally · 16/06/2021 12:47

Family Annihilators. There is even a name for these men.

Bustarold · 16/06/2021 13:54

Just heartbreaking. And the week before a mother killed her 4 year old daughter in Catalonia, also to hurt her ex husband. It's so horrible upsetting, incomprehensible

Thelnebriati · 16/06/2021 14:10


Just heartbreaking. And the week before a mother killed her 4 year old daughter in Catalonia, also to hurt her ex husband. It's so horrible upsetting, incomprehensible

Do you have a link to a report? Google only shows a man who murdered both his daughters to spite their mother.
hoodathunkit · 16/06/2021 18:05

I was horrified by this news story. The poor mother, I cannot imagine what she must be going through.

I was also very upset by the news report from Russia about a Clarins sales assistant who threw a friend's toddler daughter to her death out of a window because she was jealous of her. 17 years in a penal colony seems insufficient, although I doubt she will survive the sentence.

There are plenty of instances of people of both sexes committing these kinds of murders. The most distressing example that comes to my mind is that recorded, pretty much in real time, in the devestating film Dear Zachary.

Dear Zachary is definitely not a film to watch when feeling fragile. It is a remarkable film though, showing how a resilient, determined group of friends and family do their very best to protect an innocent child from a monster.

The film details the family's struggle and how they go from bereaved, grieving parents and become passionate activists for child protection and against people charged with murder from being released on bail.

It is available on youtube if anyone is feeling sufficiently robust to watch it.

Igmum · 16/06/2021 19:45

What an evil evil man. The only positive thing here is that the media is not referring to him as a good father and that people are up in arms. We need to stop these evil men before another mother or another child is hurt

QuentinBunbury · 16/06/2021 20:44

Family annihilation is a very male crime and its extremely bad taste to talk about the rare occurrences of women killing children as if they are equivalent

Articus · 16/06/2021 20:59

It’s true there was a mother who poisoned her daughter and herself to hurt her husband in Cataluña. Probably not on the news because pending trial as she survived.
It’s a sorrowful state of affairs when children are weaponised like this.

QuentinBunbury · 16/06/2021 21:06
PoliceDogWoof · 16/06/2021 21:11

That poor woman.

Thecatonthemat · 16/06/2021 21:15

In Andalucía, it was reported that 300 women a day are contacting services relating to domestic abuse, increased since the pandemic.

Bustarold · 16/06/2021 21:33
Bustarold · 16/06/2021 21:34

sorry, that was a response to Thelnebriati*, who was asking for a link

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