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My experience of post-natal depression

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starlight99 · 03/12/2009 21:45

Post natal depression is said to affect as many as 1 in 10 women who have had a baby. It hit me about 8 weeks after the birth of our daughter and took me by complete surprise, particularly as I?d had a trouble free pregnancy, and this was a much wanted baby. I had no history of mental illness and never expected or believed I could be one of the 1 in 10. Yet my experience was of a very real and debilitating illness, something I couldn?t cope with on my own, and which needed professional intervention. The experience has left me with a new empathy towards those who go through post natal illnesses and an understanding that this does not mean you don?t love your baby or are a failure as a mother.

I had a happy pregnancy, and was very excited at the prospect of the new addition to our family. I day dreamed of my beautiful baby constantly and immersed myself in preparations for the nursery and home. Having done our NCT antenatal classes I felt informed and prepared for what lay ahead. I had my bag packed at 34 weeks and felt ready. The experience of giving birth was not however how I?d hoped. The birth plan went out of the window as I took every bit of pain relief offered to me. A 22 hour labour culminated in a traumatic delivery involving a 2nd degree tear and haemorrhage which later resulted a blood transfusion. To follow that we experienced a lot of difficulties with feeding and despite desperately wanting to breast feed we were eventually advised that it was a case of either switch to formula, or our baby was to be tube fed. I was devastated to have to give up breast feeding. I sobbed as we gave her the first bottle of formula and felt like a failure.

The early weeks were a rollercoaster of emotions, joys, defeats, ups and downs. Exhaustion set in as we soldiered on through a relentless torrent of feeds, nappy changes, soiled muslins and piles of washing. The lack of sleep was of course, an obvious feature of having a new born baby, but still I don?t think anything quite prepares you for the havoc it wreaks on your mental well being. Just simply functioning during the day became a feat of extreme endurance. Our previous life seemed a million miles away as we felt like we were drowning in chaos and a sea of baby-related paraphernalia.

It is hard to pin point when exactly the post natal depression set in, but it was around 8 weeks when I noticed that despite the fact that our daughter had started to sleep better at night, I began to find it increasingly difficult to sleep. At first it was a case of taking a long time to fall asleep, then it progressed to tossing and turning most of the night then eventually to not sleeping at all. It is hard to describe the intense frustration of being totally exhausted yet being unable to sleep. I would lie awake feeling angry and desperate about not sleeping and guilty for not making the most of our baby being asleep. Sleep became my obsession; I would look at passers by or people on TV and wonder if they had slept well and feel jealous and desperate to sleep like them. I became very tearful and had an increasing sense of not being able to cope with our baby or any of the normal day to day tasks. I went to the GP who ran through a number of questions and diagnosed post natal depression. Unfortunately instead of being the start of my recovery it was the beginning of a whole spiral of problems that eventually led to me being admitted to a Mother & Baby Mental Health Unit.

The antidepressant prescribed by the GP had a very bad reaction with me and I was vomiting almost continually together with an awful feeling of agitation that meant I couldn?t even sit down, let alone lie down or sleep. Needless to say this exacerbated my problem of insomnia. I became even more depressed, and began to find it difficult to interact with our baby. I couldn?t concentrate on anything; even reading a book or watching the TV became impossible. Despite a very supportive partner and help from family, I continued to go downhill. My appetite disappeared, and I stopped being able to enjoy anything ? I couldn?t seem to experience the good things in life such as a sunny day or birds singing ? everything just felt black. Things came to a head when I had a hospital postnatal appointment. So severe was my depression at this point that I could barely speak or hold my head up. The consultant obstetrician was so concerned about me that she sent us over to the A&E department to see the on call psychiatrist. I was prescribed temazepam to make me sleep and was referred to the mental health crisis team who would visit me every day at home. I was then referred to the consultant psychiatrist at the Mother & Baby Unit who prescribed yet more medication. By this time I was on 5 different drugs. On top of all this I started to experience anxiety attacks and needed doses of lorazepam to deal with the panic. To cut a long story short and after yet more deterioration they felt my condition was severe enough to be admitted as an inpatient.

I was very frightened to be admitted to what was essentially a psychiatric ward with a number of very ill people on it. Of course I was one of those very ill individuals but did not see myself at the time as a mental patient. Here I met a number of other mothers some with the very serious condition puerperal psychosis. I spent some of the worst days of my illness on that ward but looking back I am grateful to the staff who were all wonderfully kind, patient and supportive. Thankfully I was able to stay with my baby, as were all the other mothers on the ward. That was a blessing, because in the past women as ill as me would have had their babies taken into foster care. There was a sense of quiet companionship among the women on the ward, a kind of respect towards one another for having gone through something as awful as post natal mental illness. I remain in contact with one of the women even now. I was finally discharged from hospital two and a half months after being admitted.

Thankfully the feelings of warmth and affection for my baby returned as I gradually got better, and I started to enjoy life again. I have started to enjoy being a mother and do normal things again such as going to groups and getting out and about. Some days are still a struggle and I have to keep reminding myself how far we have come. I hate having to take the medication, but recognise that I need to be patient and accept that PND is a real illness which needs treatment. I think there is still some nagging voice in the back of my head that says I should be able to cope or pull myself together, but I need to remember how ill I was and that I didn?t choose to get the illness. To people going through the nightmare of PND I would say don?t be afraid or feel guilty about seeking help, you need to be kind to yourself and accept the support that is available to you. To other mothers I would say be kind to those going through post natal illness as it is not a choice but an awful, real illness that is experienced by many normal women.

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DillieTantie · 03/12/2009 23:10

I always loved my child/ren, but I had mad thoughts that s/he would die. I was actually convinced that s/he would die if I didn't watch over him/her constantly. I didn't sleep properly, until s/he was 2 years old. This cannot be right?

takethattastic · 04/12/2009 00:16

HiI had a similiar experience to you dillietantie as I had the thoughts illness which is classed under pnd. I had visions of my baby being harmed, I loved them more than I thought possible but worried that they would die or come to harm. Docs say it was related to 3 family bereavements, 2 miscarriages and that the crash team were called to my birth although baby was fine. Still on citalopram 2 and a bit years later and had counselling but in a much much better place now although still requiring gp support. It's a horrible illness but thankfully my health visitor, family and gp have all been fantastic. Ps lack of sleep actually makes it worse so if you are still worried please seek help. I was so scared to tell my thoughts but realised I had to otherwise I would never get better. Despite some of the shocking things I had thought my gp and health visitor sympathised and empathised - nothing was too much for them to listen to.

Fruitysunshine · 04/12/2009 00:20

Starlight99 - your post is very moving and brings back haunting memories of my experience of PND. After nearly 2 years I am now trying to come off medication.

You have come a long way and your story shows how strong you are and that there is help for women who suffer from this and that life can be "normal" again, if not a bit different.

VFemme · 04/12/2009 00:32

Hi Starlight, thanks for sharing your experience. Parts of your story I could have written from my experience. I was lucky enough to have recovered after a six month course of Prozac.

And when I "came out" and told some of my monther's group friends, it turned out that many of us were in the same boat. I only wish I'd been more informed about PND during pregnancy (or maybe I had and chose to ignore it - who wants to read about doom and gloom when you're having a great pregnancy?)

I can definitely say that if I am blessed with another baby I would know the signs and take action earlier.

VFemme · 04/12/2009 00:34

Agree with fruity - your story shows how strong you are, and that there IS help out there.

starlight99 · 04/12/2009 13:54

thanks for your support guys. I do find it hard to share my story, I suppose I am still coming to terms with what happened, and can't deal with people's sometimes hesitant reactions when I say I had a "mental illness". The whole thing just seems like a living nightmare when I look back on it now.
Still trying to get off medication too.
We will get there in the end.
Am very scared of having another baby in case I have it all happen again - anyone else feel like this?
x

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Fruitysunshine · 04/12/2009 22:07

Starlight I never had it with my first two and after my third was born I was sterilised at the same time.

I understand about people's reaction to "mental illness". It is like they suddenly think you may freak out at any minute or that you are incapable of living a normal daily life but the people who really know you are the ones who help you through. My Dh and his family were wonderfully supportive to me and our children. I could not have asked for more even when my own mother did not support me.

Every pregnancy is different. My friend had PND with her first two and nothing with her third! It is all case by case although they do keep an eye on mums in the early weeks after the birth who have previously had it.

takethattastic · 06/12/2009 11:24

Yep I am scared to have another baby too especially since I had previous miscarriages and then the pnd. I am not worried about anyone who recoils from the word mental illness as this experience is truly the most frightening thing I have ever had to deal with - especially since I was unable to control my thoughts and fears. For those who have suffered with it - you will understand what I mean. I bet there are many more out there that we don't know about. Good luck to all of you on this horrible journey - 2 years down the line I feel like I am getting there but to hear how you have all coped and come out the other side definitely gives me the comfort and inspiration to know that at some point I will feel "well" again! Thank you!!

froglegs · 06/12/2009 17:02

Hi, Thanks for writing your story - It laughed when I read the bit about being jealous of people on the street and on TV as that is exactly how I feel!
my baby is 4 weeks old and I have been taking citalopram for 3 weeks now. (I was taking it before I got pregnant as I have struggled with depression for 10 years. As soon as I had the baby I regonized the signs and got help quickly)

I am not sure if the meds are working or not because I am feeling so awful from lack of sleep. Also I am struggling with breastfeeding which I am convinced it contributing to my depression.

Anyway, reading your story has made me feel better in a weird way. xxx

starlight99 · 06/12/2009 17:15

hi froglegs.
I'm glad my story helped you a little bit. The lack of sleep really gets you down, and to be honest at times I found it hard to distinguish which was causing which... depression and lack of sleep have very similar effects: lack of concentration, desperation, misery, confusion, irritability etc. etc.
It's good you have gone to get help. Hopefully the citalopram will kick in soon, sometimes it can take 4 weeks so give it a bit longer. What dose are you on?
Regarding the breast feeding, I know exactly where you are coming from. I got myself so worked up about it (I think I had fallen for the whole NCT speech about you MUST breastfeed or you are a wicked bitch-mother). I got so so upset when she wouldn't feed and wouldn't put on weight, and took it REALLY hard when I had to switch to formula.
Looking at her now I can honestly say she did not suffer one bit from being on formula, she is a happy, healthy little girl. If anything, the mums who did breast feed had a harder time as they couldn't go out without the baby, and had a nightmare time weaning their little ones off the breast in the end. If I had another child I promised myself I would NEVER get so upset over the breastfeeding issue again. I'm convinced it contributed to my depression. If you can do it, great. If you can't please please don't beat yourself up over it.
take care
x

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hohohonotlongtogo · 06/12/2009 17:30

starlight i'd just like to say that you sound like an amazingly strong person and your daughter is lucky to have you. I am lucky enough to have two children and not have suffered with pnd but it sounds so scary and if that was to ever happen i don't think i'd be brave enough to ask for help. Well done for getting through this and never beat yourself up over a down day as everyone has them now and again, i really admire you for sharing your experience too, merry christmas to you and your family and i wish you a truly happy new year

froglegs · 06/12/2009 18:39

Thanks for response. I do need to make a decision about the feeding. I was induced at 37 weeks due to very high blood pressure and he was forceps delivered. I had really terrible postnatal 'care' in hospital and it reallt tramatised me. He didnt feed for the first 24 hours and was jundiced so I was \advised to give him ff. I have been trying to breastfeed him since week two but never feel I have enough milk and can spend hours and hours sat feeding him. Apparently thats normal but I dont think it is something I am prepared to do as I need to get out of the house!

Your reply has cheered me up. ta x

starlight99 · 06/12/2009 18:39

thank you ho ho ho that is so kind of you. I am just a normal person, but I suppose it has made me stronger in a way. Certainly given me a lot more empathy for people with mental illness.
Hope you have a great Christmas too
xxx

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curlymother · 06/12/2009 22:04

Hi there just been reading all your posts
I had a bad time after my first child in 2003. PND not picked up for long time. Just seemed to slip through the net as my H. visitor was on LT sick amongst other things . In the end I saw a locum Gp who was very proactive and basically sat me down and said we need to sort this out properly.
I too had lots of bad feelings towards my dd and worried that i or something else would harm her. I didnt even tell my husband, I was so worried everyone would think i was mad. I was off work for 6 months and on antidepressants for 18 months until i decided i wanted another child- that was a difficult decision in itself and i constantly feared that it would all happen again. In short, my helpful locum Gp became my permanent Gp and along with a new health visitor gave me stacks of support during my pregnancy and after i had my son. When i had my post natal check the Gp said i want you to come in and see me each month,even if it is just to say you are fine.The surgery even phoned at one stage as i hadnt been in and my Gp wanted to check that i had kept away because i was fine and not because all going badly. I kept off the antidepressants the second time although I did see another Dr who was all too happy to just give me some more and send me out the door!I have no family support other than my husband, I had lots of prexisting factors that it seemed made me prone to developing PND, i had lots of problems after my dd was born that also made it more likely to occur and i found out some time later that my mother had a similar experience after i was born. I have researched pnd on the intenet, have bought some books , borrowed from the library, spoken to other sufferers and professionals . I have tried to understand it as much as possible as that was the only way i could deal with it. At the time i can only describe it as an all consuming black cloud. I felt so isolated and that no one else would understand. I can honestly say that i felt like another person and i almost cant recognise myself as i was then . I have come out the other side and i truly empathise with anyone else who has experienced pnd. I do not think women or their partners are given enough information pre natally or enough help if it happens. There do not seem to be enough Health Professionals with special knowledge of PND. Considering the number of women affected there really should be much more help out there other than just prescribing tablets. Dont lose heart or be put off having more children.Parenting is a really hard job as it is and i think that if there was one thing that it took me ages to get back, it was my confidence. Nowadays i just worry that people think im mad because I have 2 healthy kids who just run me ragged and i always look so stressed! Hang on in there...

roslily · 07/12/2009 07:32

It is so helpful to read other peoples experiences. My ds is 13 weeks old and I have been taking citalopram for 11 weeks now. I have suffered from depression in past.

I was feeling better, but the last few weeks I have felt myself getting worse and worse.I spend most of the day crying. I think about hurting myself. I am worried that I might leave ds somewhere. I am so tired. I would pretty much do anything for some sleep.

Going back to dr today I think.

froglegs · 07/12/2009 10:30

Dear roslily

You MUST go back to the doctors asap and get proper help. If you don't ger any help from your GP request another one. I know that my surgery some of the GPs are rubbish and a couple of them are amazing. Write down how you feel so you remember to tell them everything.
Do you support from partner or family?

You need to get some sleep so you can think clearly. - easier said than done! The only was I am getting through the lack of sleep is to give the baby to my DH for the whole night and let him bottlefeed him and I got a whole nights sleep which made me feel much better.

Please write back and tell us how you got on.

xxxxxxx

froglegs · 07/12/2009 10:33

ps - sorry about all the mistakes am writing with one hand!

EllenRipley · 12/12/2009 18:57

hi, thought i'd add my tuppence worth!...i had to see the local emergency psychiatric team today as my mood has plummeted. I have a history of depression and as mentioned in another post, a traumatic time at the hospital which ended in emergency caesarian. I'm still struggling with the bfeeding though have been told baby is latching and feeding okay, and dread each feed which seems to go on forever and is never enough, though my partner perseveres getting baby to sleep and he is putting on weight a little at a time. I am considering switching to formula to help my mental state, though i know the fatigue etc will continue and it's not the easy option, but i am worried the guilt is going to make my depression worse and i've not perservered enough, Reading some of these posts about switching to formula have helped, so thanks... i really do think the pressure of bfeeding makes pnd worse, particularly because it can be so much more tiring. Does anyone think that if bfeeding is a stress this is passed on to the baby through the milk or what he senses from you? Another thing to add to my worries...! x

GetDownYouWillFall · 12/12/2009 20:11

definitely switch to formula if you are feeling the BF is contributing to your depression. You have already given your DC the benefits of the colostrum. They will do just fine on formula. I BF for 3 weeks then switched. It did help because then my DH could help with night feeds. Honestly your little one won't suffer.
I don't know if stress gets passed on through the milk, but they do say that babies are very sensitive so could be picking up on you feeling stressed in some other way.
Just try and take care of yourself. By being kind to yourself you are being kind to your baby.

EllenRipley · 12/12/2009 20:32

thanks GetDown, appreciate words of support... it's a difficult decision, not knowing whether you've persevered enough, isn't it? It's good to hear words like yours vs the keep going/keep feeding chorus. Midwife and health visitor coming on monday so am going to speak to them too before i decide, but am erring on the kind-to-me-kind-to-baby idea... definitely. Thanks x

GetDownYouWillFall · 12/12/2009 22:20

Ellen

  • you dread each feed
  • you are exhausted
  • you have a history of depression
  • you had a traumatic birth

your story sounds so similar to mine. I battled on with the BF out of sheer determination not to give up and not thinking of the effects it was having on my mental state. I paid the price for that, and vowed if I ever had another DC I would never make such a big issue over it or put so much pressure on myself. It really isn't worth it.

I hope your MW and HV can see that too.

jasmeeen · 14/12/2009 20:56

Ellen,

I second what GetDownYouWillFall says. I had PND with both my DSs (very severely with DS1) and am expecting DC3 in a few weeks. This time I have decided not to BF from the word go as the additional pressure it added with DS1 and DS2 did not help.

With DS1 I refused to formula feed at all as I felt to give up would be failure. With DS2 I switched to mixed feeding followed by only formula feeding after a few months and it made a huge difference to my moods.

Due to my history I have met with the antenatal psych at my hospital and they agree that the formula feeding plan is a good one. It's one less thing for me to worry about and I can take my ADs without worrying about it passing through the milk to the baby. I do feel a little bit guilty that this baby isn't going to get any breast milk but as the psych said, a happy mum can enjoy her family and her family enjoy her and that is what counts.

And it is true, being kind to yourself is being kind to baby.

EllenRipley · 15/12/2009 11:57

thanks both. The more folk i converse with on this subject are strongly in favour of going down the mixed or formula route when PND's an issue and it's very reassuring. Have to accept that the birth/hospital experience cant be changed and it's probably affected my chances of successfully bfeeding long term. Am now doing mixed feeding, for myself and to get his weight up... will see if that segues into full time formula or is sustainable, for both of us, as is. I know that some babies end up preferring the bottle anyway. But going to give it another week and see how mood goes, i've had a couple of night's sleep (5-6 hours) and am feeling better, plus have had good chat with HV. Keeping an eye on myself though, and in touch with GP in case mood goes down again and may need antiDs. Good luck and congrats with bubba no3 Jas, glad you feel able to enjoy without stress this time round.

countrylover · 18/12/2009 20:01

What an emotive post - so much of that rings true for me. I had an extremely traumatic birth with DS1 which resulted in him being taken straight to intensive care. I didn't see him for over 24 hrs as I was very ill myself post-operatively. I didn't hold him for four days and I wasn't allowed to breast feed him for five days. He spent three weeks there and his heart went into SVT attacks several times. At the time we didn't know if he would make it.

I got him home and he was a stranger to me. I wanted to take him back to the hospital. It felt like he belonged to them and not me. I struggled on for a few months and bizzarely it was the same for me as with the OP in that as soon as he started sleeping through the night I stopped sleeping. I would lie awake for hours and hours, surviving one little more than three hours sleep a night for several weeks.

Eventually I had a nervous breakdown but even then I had no help from my GP and was prescribed sleeping tablets. No one mentioned PND to me and the health visitor promised to come round but never turned up.

So I struggled on not telling my husband or anyone close to me how I was feeling. I did get better after around 18 months but never truely felt like 'me' and still struggled with sleeping nearly every night. I had by this point bonded with DS but it all just felt a bit fake. As if I was pretending to enjoy motherhood and constantly comparing myself to other mothers.

Finally though everything came to a head when DH and I started discussing having another baby. We talked about it for a month or so until one night on holiday I broke down and told him everything. I was absolutely petrified, in fact petrified doesn't even cover it, of having another baby.

I realised I needed help so I went to the GP and demanded some kind of therapy. She put me on the waiting list for CBT and I can honestly say it was life changing.

It was painful at first but my therapist quickly diagnosed that I had PND and also PTSD following the birth of my son. I had around 10 sessions over the course of three months and by the end of it I finally felt 'normal' again. I felt as if a weight had been lifted.

I was lucky to fall pregnant straight away and using the CBT techniques I managed to stay well throughout the whole pregnancy and even sleep better than I had done in three years!

I had DS2 and within three months I was beginning to hear the old thoughts coming back. I went straight back to the GP and requested more CBT. I've had eight sessions to date and I can honestly say I feel fine again. It's been a hairy six months but nothing on my experience first time round. I knew the signs and I knew how to fix it. I talked to DP and those close to me, I cried with DP and those close to me, I told them the crazy thoughts in my head. And somehow that made them less real.

So for anyone going through PND, give CBT a try. And for anyone scared of having another baby, in my experience at least, it was nowhere near as bad as the first time round.

osborne · 18/12/2009 21:05

Countrylover, I totally agree with you regarding CBT. I had PNd with dc2 and did nothing and then with DC3 I did manage to ask for help. I am on a small dose of prozac but feel its the CBT that has been absolutely life changing. I also did a Mindfulness course which has been hugely beneficial. It helps you live the moment and not get latched onto negative thoughts that then go round and round in your head. I'm very cynical but am now incorporating this into my everyday life, even momentarily it can ground me again.

I have been surprised how many people have opened up with their stories of depression or other mental illness once it is out in the open. It is still very taboo but so widespread. I think I had underlying depression since my teens but having children compounded it and forced me to do something about it.

there is so much pressure in modern motherhood and always some article etc to induce guilt. however, in reality most parents go with "whatever gets you through" in reality. the breast/bottle debate is particularly unhelpful.

pills seem to be prescribed too often with no other psychological support. I feel so strongly about it now I'm going to do a psychology OUD and train as a therapist.

there really is light at the end of the tunnel but it takes so long to get there. I'm finally really enjoying my children now but feel so sad I wished away the first few years and can barely remember some of it.