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Day 8 Off Citalopram And Feel Alive!

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boolifooli · 07/09/2009 12:08

The last 4 days have been yuk but I feel great today! I first noticed yesterday that I am feeling things more, I cried while watching a movie yesterday and that hasn't happened for a while. Although the Citalopram capped the anxiety it also capped a lot of the good stuff. Anyways I just wanted to give some hope to people who are thinking of coming off and worried after reading many horror stories.

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OrmIrian · 29/09/2009 15:06

Tis weird! If I hadn't gone cold turkey on seroxat once so I am familiar with it, I'd be convinced I was ill. It's like that feeling you get when you are very very tired or when you have a raised temperature - and you get a sort of unfocused achey shiver in your head. But it keeps on all the time. Sorry I can't describe it very well at all.

BrokenBananaTantrum · 29/09/2009 15:10

that sounds horrible - sorry you are going though this.

I think you might need to be careful about driving BUT trust your own judgement.

Hope someone comes along soon with some advice.

ChilloHippi · 29/09/2009 16:12

Orm, I didn't drive for a couple of weeks when I first started the tablets as I felt really drunk (I quite liked it tbh!), but I have since, even when I have felt a bit wobbly.

OrmIrian · 29/09/2009 16:33

Thanks.

I don't have much choice really. But if things don't improve a great deal I may have to cry off Sunday at least. Feel really spaced out atm.

boolifooli · 29/09/2009 17:18

Hi Orm. i carried on driving with the brain shudders. They only happen for a split second so I didn't find it made any difference to the driving. Maybe you could drive around the block when it's quiet until you have had one and see what it's like?

Banana - I would describe the shocks as a sudden feeling of spinning very fast that lasts less than a second. I didn't find them too bad, not as bad as I was worried they would be after researching on the net about them!
Chillo - I liked the first few weeks of the meds. It really reminded me of the feeling you get about 2 hours after a joint. Not something I have done for decades, this was a LONG time ago when I was a rebellious teen I pwomise.

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Summertimefizz · 30/09/2009 09:36

It's a shame because I actually thought I'd found a great support network with you ladies, but not one of you have responded to my recent posts so what's the point?

Therefore, I've decided not to bother with this thread anymore, as I'll only get upset due to the lack of response. I don't need any other issues to hinder my progress in staying AD free. You may think that I'm being petty but that's how I feel.

I sincerely wish you all the best and happy AD free lives. Good Luck

OrmIrian · 30/09/2009 09:39

He summertime - your last post didn't ask any questions did it? But sorry for ignoring you I guess we were all just busy with our own stuff. Don't go if you think we can help you.

booli - thanks for that. I must admit I am feeling worse than I expected but am going to stick at it. I have got until tomorrow evening to get my head sorted a bit.

BrokenBananaTantrum · 30/09/2009 10:31

summertime - sorry you feel like that but I'm perhaps being thick but I've looked back and can't find any questions. Could you repost them and we will help?

gonnabehappy · 30/09/2009 10:42

Oh summertime

Electronic communication is so wonderful but it is so easy to misinterpret what is said, or what is not said. I am sure you know how hard it is sometimes to respond to people. Personally I know I am very very inward looking at the moment but please do not interpret that as not caring. I can understand you choosing not to post but know that you are very welcome.

boolifooli · 30/09/2009 10:45

Hi Summer, I'm sorry if it seemed I ignored anything, it certainly wasn't intentional. Sometimes posts are added quie quickly and it's difficult to keep up. Please don't stop posting.

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ChilloHippi · 30/09/2009 15:53

I can't find anywhere where we were ignoring Summetime
Summer, please keep posting. We share a love of the vino.

Stayingsunnygirl · 30/09/2009 16:40

I'm sorry too, summertime. I haven't been back to this thread for a while as things have been pretty flat for me, and I didn't want to be a downer for the rest of you.

Hope you come back.

gonnabehappy · 30/09/2009 16:56

You ok Staying sunny?

Stayingsunnygirl · 30/09/2009 17:10

Not brilliant, gonnabehappy, but not too bad either. I do still seem to be coping far better on 40mg of citalopram than on 60mg, so that's good, and I should be getting a date through to start group therapy in a month or so, and I am hopeful about that too. I guess I'm just feeling a bit flat atm, and feeling like I'm not keeping on top of stuff. But still, much better than the summer.

Thankyou for asking, gonnabehappy - and I hope you're ok too. [sneakily unmumnsetty hug emoticon]

BrokenBananaTantrum · 30/09/2009 18:14

I can see a very small flickering light at the end of the tunnel. Can anyone else see it?

ChilloHippi · 30/09/2009 18:52

StayingSunny, I had some group therapy and it was really, really helpful. I was so dubious about it but is was really good.

BrokenBanana I can too! I feel like I have waited a long time to see the tunnel but I can now

Can I recommend a book to you? The CBT for Dummies book (here) is really good. There is a workbook too. I've found it helpful to try and change the way I think so you might too.

I've also worked hard (thanks to group therapy!) on my tendency to catastrophise (here) and that has made a BIG difference to me.

Stayingsunnygirl · 01/10/2009 09:31

I've seen the CBT for dummies books on the amazon site, and wasn't sure which one to get, ChilloHippi - would you recommend the book or the workbook or both? I do recognise my need to change the way I think about things - I don't as much catastrophise as focus on all the bad things - having moved 400+ miles from my friends, living in a house that I don't really like, the puppy and the children misbehaving, not having any real friends round here - etc etc etc, and I do know that there are good things in my life too, and I need to focus on those.

gonnabehappy · 01/10/2009 11:38

I ordered a couple of CBT books last night too! I liked the idea of 'the compassionate mind' and will let you know if it is any good.

I feel crap at the moment. Have done a week of 40/20. Have sweats (but maybe menopausal - and son number 3 has flu), headache and my brain is no better than banana porridge.

Please keep posting about how you guys who are doing well are progressing - I am so longing to see that light at the end of the tunnel!

On the up side - I have not cried for a few days - least not 'proper' crying anyway! I have not shouted at anyone either - so not all bad.

Mind you have just recived a letter saying son number 1 (age 15) was seen helping a friend shoplift so he has been banned from a certain shop. I foresee fireworks tonight - he is going to be grounded for a month.

sugardumpling · 01/10/2009 12:09

Hi i'm kind of new to Mumsnet and haven't posted on this topic before. Ive been on 40mg of Citalopram for the last few months and have only really started to feel the full benefits, in fact at the moment I actually feel really positive and even happy which is great for me! but I'm dreading the moment my Doc trys to wean me off them (as he's already told me he will eventually) as I don't want to go back to how I felt before (I've suffered with depression on and off most of my life) can't stand the constant anxiousness and worry, paranoia and just feeling so shit about myself, Im in such a good place at the mo and know its down to the medication but I like this feeling! sorry for rambling!

OrmIrian · 01/10/2009 15:24

Hi sugar - I have been like you were on and off all my life. I have only just realised this but looking back there have been very few times as an adult when I felt normal and 'good' for more than a month or so at a time. I even wonder if perhaps I am bi-polar as I get extreme ups for a few months at a time followed by hideous anxious downs and then back to the slightly worried, negative 'normal' phase.

Citalopram worked like a dream for me - I took it first a few months into the downs. It helped very quickly and, like you I felt great. Have been on it for year and all that time I was good - not as high as I was to start with but stable and happy. I am coming off them now and feel a bit ill TBH but mood-wise I am 100% fine. I am hoping that I will be OK for a while now.

I know that it isn't great to be on anti-Ds permanently and I wish I didn't need them, but I wouldn't hesitate to take them again if need be. This time last year I think they saved my sanity.

sugardumpling · 01/10/2009 16:27

yes Orm I know what you mean, I sometimes think how bad it is that I can only feel "normal" when i'm taking pills, but I suppose its just the way i'm made

I had a really bad time at the beginning of this year, honestly thought I was going mad, its the worse i've been in a while don't want to go back there again

ChilloHippi · 02/10/2009 09:25

StayingSunny, I only have the text book and haven't used the workbook myself. I found that the textbook was good on its own. I live a long way away from my family too, and I have found it hard to make new friends in a new area, but I have some really good ones now. Do you have any opportunities to meet new people at all?

Oh dear GonnaBeHappy. I hope that being caught will put your DS off doing it again. Please don't let it get you down. How is the crying going?

Sugar this is the place for rambling! I used to panic about my doctor weaning me off the tablets, but he won't if you don't want to come off them. I'm doing it off my own back now (I've gone from 60mg to 40mg) and feel better for it, but I've been on them for a lot longer than you. Don't worry about coming off them yet as you've really only just started them.

Orm has hit the nail on the head! ADs can indeed save your sanity. Even if you're insane like me lol!

Has anyone else been affected by what Summer said?

Stayingsunnygirl · 02/10/2009 10:20

Chillo is spot on, Sugar - all ramblers welcome here! I'm sure that your doctor isn't going to force you to come off the tablets if you aren't ready to do so. It might also be worth asking him if there is any counselling or group therapy available in your area, so that you can see that something positive is being done to tackle your depression - something that will help enable you to cope without the antidepressants. I feel that we need not only the antidepressants to help us cope with the symptoms of the depression, but also some other help to enable us to tackle the root causes of it, so that we can beat it properly - and the antidepressants should help us have the strength to do that.

As Chillo and Orm have said - they saved what little tatters of my sanity remained (three messy teenage grumpy argumentative boys, a mad dog, a cat and a husband haven't left much sanity round here - lol ). They've also made me feel like I can cope with more of the day to day stuff at home - though this week hasn't been great, and dh has had to pick up a lot of slack. He can be really infuriating and drives me to distraction at times, but I do appreciate how hard it is for him to come home from work and find that I have basically frozen all day, and haven't got much done.

I am definitely going to get the Cognitive Behavioural Therapy for Dummies book that Chillo recommends - if I understand it correctly, it is about changing the way we think about things and respond to them, and I can see how that would do me good.

Gonnabehappy - I know just how you feel about the shoplifting thing - ds1 was caught shoplifting a couple of years ago - he was with a friend who'd done it a few times, and the idiotic sod decided to have a go - and got caught nicking a packet of sweets. I was absolutely beside myself, not just with anger but with frustration and guilt too - I felt like it had to be my fault - something I'd done wrong bringing him up - though I knew, rationally, that we'd always emphasised honesty and respect for other people's possessions.

We had fireworks at home when the letter from the school came (he'd been in uniform so they'd reported it to the school not to me, and as ds1 had been so shocked and sorry, and had written to the shop to apologise without being prompted, the school didn't suspend him, but gave him a weekend detention instead, for which we were very grateful), but I also burst into tears because I was so shocked about it all, and I think that it was my tears that affected ds1 the most - he was appalled at how much he'd upset me. That, plus the fright of being caught stopped him from shoplifting again, and I'm sure it will do the same for your ds.

Chillo - yes, I am meeting new people - I've joined an art club and, recently, a choir, so I'm making the effort and doing things that I enjoy. We've also just got a dog - a 17 week old brown lab - so I am getting to know other people because dog owners are lovely about chatting to me while the dogs play together.

I think I was rather spoiled where I lived before - I had several really close friends, and my house ended up as the meeting point - there was barely a day went by without at least one person turning up for coffee and gossip, so I didn't have to make the effort to get out there myself. What does hurt is the fact that these friends rarely ring me - they are very happy to chat and catch up if I ring them, but I feel like they've forgotten me and moved on, because they don't think to ring me.

And I was very affected by what summer said - I feel as if I failed her by not responding to her, and I'm worried about her now - I hope she'll come back to the thread and give me a second chance.

BrokenBananaTantrum · 02/10/2009 10:51

sugar please don't wory about your doc making you come off your meds. I have been on citalopram for 2.5 years and it is me who has decided to come off not being forced off them so let them get to work and try not to addd this to the million other things you have to worry about.

ChilloHippi · 02/10/2009 11:02

You're right, CBT is about changining how you think, for a long-term positive change.

A puppy! I want a puppy We have enough with our two dogs but I would happily swap DS for a puppy

I feel a bit angry at what Summer said because I felt I was being accused of something that I hadn't done

I've just really hurt my foot. I've managed to split the nail on my big toe vertically and it's bleeding loads. Ow ow ow. And I have a job interview this afternoon so I shall be hobbling in now. Should give them a laugh Maybe they'll feel sorry for me and offer me job lol.