Psychiatrist lying in report

[ChirpyPinkFox]

I recently had an assessment with a psychiatrist at the CMHT.
I have received a copy of the assessment report. Basically it's full of lies. She's just made things up, things I never said. I worry about the impact of this. Does anyone know how I can get this report dismissed so it isn't on my record? I feel utterly devasted after reading it. I was hopeful to get some help but not anymore.

You're right again!
It was only to access medication after having nothing to do with them for a lot of years. It's fucked my life in terms of trying to access support. I worry that I will never be free from it and then this impacts on how other health professionals treat me. I also worry that any complaint I make or if I challenge it, it will just play into their narrative.
You're right, I am questioning everything again.
I don't know if I can afford it. I will look into it.

Thank you . I think I would need back up to do this and I don't have anyone to help me. I really would like it off my record.

Are the patients believed?

If you access medication from a private psychiatrist this will go on your NHS record. I'm unclear whether just a letter from the psychiatrist goes to your GP or if all their notes are accessible. If it's just sessions without prescription then you can keep GP out of the loop.

Find a way to pay OP. Family? Anyone?

I believe one 1 hour appointment, even on zoom with a well researched psych ( make sure it's a woman) will be enough. You could send the Autism assessment report to them in advance of the appointment. You outline what you're after and that you believe you're ND and don't doubt the validity of the report ( I know you are OP. You are. ) You can explain that you feel your condition isn't being acknowledged by CMHT,that you are keen for further support in collaboration with your GP so that you don't have to continue with this traumatising experience at the hands of CMHT.

This OP is systemic gaslighting that you are experiencing.The NHS are now pulling this on people alot and that's how I knew you were suffering, because I have too regarding myself and my own ND teen.

One appointment with a psychiatrist could sort alot out for you. But it has to be the right one who has extensive experience and is ND aware. Preferably not working for the bloody NHS on the side either.

Yes it's really pickled mine up tbh...all notes sent anywhere are wrong and I have to rehash it everytime with every professional...The incorrect notes are so extremely incorrect that they can generally see for themselves after a chat. But I feel I am constantly having to prove my actual reality..heaven forbid it's not a face to face appointment and I'm written off from the get go 🙄

It's exhausting having to prove your reality.

The private psych will write a report/ letter that goes to the GP. I'd request it be sent to CMHT also.

This then over rides the numpties.

OP, people are being gaslit left right and centre. It is not personal or about you. I want you to understand that you aren't alone in this experience and they know they're doing it. It requires game playing on your part. The game is you find someone bigger and better with credentials and reputation to write in a letter what's actually going on here. Also to validate you. You will feel better emotionally with someone validating you!

If you can, I'd be looking at a counsellor of your own too. A woman. A woman who has extensive experience in Neurodivergence. You need other people in your corner to help you emotionally and you haven't got them because the medical profession is terrible at treating people on a humane level. Your counsellor would offer you concessions if you're on alow budget or benefits.

Thank you. I think the impact from this assessment will be bigger and has added to current life stress. I certainly will look into it. If I can sort daily life things out then I won't need their 'help' or medication.

I totally get how you feel. I really do. To be honest, I'm a bit of a 'gp avoider' exactly because of this. My best friend has suffered with really quite severe anxiety in the past, she has suspected autism and also likely had PND after the birth of her first born - she's fabulous and I'd have never ever guessed she'd suffered with her MH to be honest. She only revealed it when I told her about my struggles. She played it exactly right ! She sought all her help privately - she said paying the money was worth not having it all on her record. I wish I had that hindsight 😄!

Ironically, a lot of her anxiety is health related these days. She's always up the bloody drs ! 😆 But she gets fully investigated everytime. Because she hasn't got the dreaded mental health shite on her notes.

Anyway - stuff them. You fight your cause every time. People recover from poorer mental health all the time. If you're taken less seriously or feel there's discrimination at play - put it in writing. It's not acceptable.

Reading this with interest having recently attended a Camhs first appt with teenage DS and DH, and the follow up letter we've been copied into (that was addressed to our GP) has several distortions. In two quite important instances the letter reflects the exact opposite of what DH, DS and I said, as well as some less significant inaccuracies on other matters. None of us have difficulty expressing ourselves, and the three of us can remember who said what, so we're all taken aback at how the meeting has been written up.

I'm going to follow that suggestion made to you: to write a point-by-point letter indicating where we do not agree with what has been attributed to us, as I don't want this to have any impact on DS' support. Incidentally, a letter about another child (therefore intended for their own parent) was stuck in the envelope along with our letter, so not filled with confidence about our NHS experience so far.

I really hate to be negative, but : probably not.

Probably greeted with an eye roll and labelled as "difficult" 🙄

I have been labelled as psychotic when I’m not but it’s very difficult to argue against it as no one believes me.

I'm inclined to believe that a scary proportion of people working in the medical profession ( at a certain level) are actually sociopathic tbh. I'm not even joking.

Gaslighting,lying, denial and blame is therefore part of their language. It happens so often, I've witnessed and endured mind boggling denials of reality that I'm now quite certain in my belief on this one 😭😁

I’ve experienced it too.

I made a formal complaint about one cunt who said I needed a psychiatrist and that he would not treat me for a physical condition until I had seen one. In the complaint he denied this had ever happened.

Unfortunately for him he was stupid enough to confirm this to his clinical co ordinator who then forwarded me the email !

It beggars belief that they are this stupid but also quite happy to lie and the majority of the time the patient will not be believed unless they have evidence like I did. And this was a highly regarded consultant.

The hospital went from telling me something didn’t happen to it was a “misunderstanding”. Not on my part it fucking wasn’t.

It’s not just mental health though. The amount of threads about women’s pain or illness being utterly dismissed despite evidence to the contrary makes me concerned for the vast majority of the profession.

Unfortunately I think this sort of behaviour is so baked into the entire profession it’s hard to root out. Much like the entire barrel of bad apples that is the met police.

@Orangemintcream yep. I live this cuntfuckery too. And yes again, I'd be bloody terrified of really needing the Police too 🤷‍♀️😘. It's a scary reality many people don't realise unless they fall ill or become vulnerable and then you see things and think, shit.

There was recently a article on the BBC of a female nurse who found this out in the worst way possible - her son died.

She had taken him to A and E as he was very unwell and continued to get worse. He had signs of sepsis and she said she asked EIGHT times for him to be given antibiotics. It was the same hospital she worked in:

Which were not administered until it was too late and he died.

In investigation by the hospital not one of the staff on duty could recall any requests by her for him to be administered antibiotics. Not one. Incredible what people suddenly don’t remember when under investigation.

She has been unable to return to work as she has it only lost her son but lost faith in the hospital and its staff too.

I believe her.

@Orangemintcream oh yes I believe her. I too had sepsis,spent 6 months in hospital and I was almost killed by one hospital before they transferred me off as they left 3 litres of septic fluid to proliferate in my abdomen for weeks and weeks. On arrival at new hospital it was clear they thought what the absolute fuck. And after all the horror I witnessed and experienced, I knew it best to say nothing.

I've encountered sociopathic nurses that terrified me. Not compassion fatigue,but sociopathic terrifying humans. I've watched young women consistently gaslit over their digestive illnesses. I've overheard all sorts. I had someone accuse me if psychiatric illnesses when fighting sepsis,fed through my artery and 5 months into a hospital stay. I had complained about muscle weakness.

So yes. It's a horror film out there and you need advocates all the way.

I’m so sorry you went through all of that.

It is horrifying - the idea that these are supposed to be the people to help you …and they may well end up killing you.

Utterly utterly terrifying.

I record all my medical appointments after appalling behaviour from a GP. Zero trust or respect for the medical profession now.

I'm sorry this had happened, it happens a lot, it's happened to me many times, people stating things claiming I said them when I know I categorically didn't.

It's hard to disprove. But please at least challenge it, in writing. Ask to meet her manager, the original items never gets deleted, but a note can be put on aside it.

I'd contest things. Ask for a recount of what was said prior to x statement. Eg if it claims you eat meat when you are a vegetarian. If it claims you said you did a, but you know you described the story as : I left the house at 8.30 caught the bus and got off at xx.

print the document out. Take your time, don't rush. Highlight say 10 points that bother you the most. Write notes. Then leave it for a day and reconsider. Ask someone or read it.

then go back to the original. Put in the 10 pointers and write a retort in blue.

ask to meet the manager. To express how damaging this mistake is.

Thank you for your help. Its not good at all. They're supposed to be the professionals and to be trusted. I'm certainly going to find someone to help with this.

That's the problem, that the "ones with mh problems" aren't believed. I experienced this many years ago and it seems nothing has changed.

Bloody hell, that's terrible.
Good luck sorting it.