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Anyone just wanting it in a nutshell?

40 replies

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 02:16

Just throwing it out there that I'm well praised and complimented on fixing everyone else's issues.

I'm literally drowning unsupported with my own problems atm but I still have the uncontrollable passion for helping others even whilst at my rock bottom.

Some conversations on here ignite the urge for jumping in with what could be so much worthwhile advice than what's being given even worse then people that enforce incorrect information to someone already in turmoil.

Just offering what doesn't seem to be available, if you are struggling and just want a simple response without paragraphs of shite or just braving that sharp shock of reality that you dread then come to me!!!

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Eyesopenwideawake · 21/11/2024 09:05

What help do you need with your own problems?

Sunrisewatcher · 21/11/2024 09:31

Maybe there should be some sort of trigger on posts that have key words in the title whereby the first response should be an auto reply from Mumsnet Safeguarding Team? That is if I've understood the OPs query correctly?

ReadWithScepticism · 21/11/2024 09:41

I had to read your OP twice before I could understand it, so you might want to work on the clarity of your posting style before offering to give better and more concise advice than others.

Compash · 21/11/2024 09:48

What advice would you give to yourself?

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 09:50

There is such triggered auto response. My point was, sometimes people in despair already know what they need to do. They've been told by family numerous times but the hurt hits deep before the idea of trust that person is right and it just creates an issue in its self that will need to be repaired.

I state up front what I'm seeking from my post and I still get bombarded with paragraphs that were unnecessary. Whether it was with good intentions or not where are they now? So I'm affected and they're unknown and also disappeared.

I just don't think it's right on a site like this. It's the risk you take on Facebook airing your private business but on here where it's a risk but a clear risk worth taking there should be a bright red forum specifically available for people who don't have time to waste

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LittleGreenDragons · 21/11/2024 09:55

there should be a bright red forum specifically available for people who don't have time to waste
Are you talking about suicidal people? If yes, then no there shouldn't be a forum here for that. We aren't professionals or trained. You need someone like the Samaritans or your GP.

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 09:55

ReadWithScepticism · 21/11/2024 09:41

I had to read your OP twice before I could understand it, so you might want to work on the clarity of your posting style before offering to give better and more concise advice than others.

See perfect example! I'm literally on borrowed time being watched to drown. I have asked for specific help and specific advice and still been bombarded with the ins and out and enforced info that's not true so I've lost patience but I can't afford to lose hope rather than binning the site off I'm atleast still trying to helps others only now my punctuation isn't on peak and as quick as that someone's all over it. I know my intentions. What is your gain is your gain???

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B9KLO · 21/11/2024 09:58

ReadWithScepticism · 21/11/2024 09:41

I had to read your OP twice before I could understand it, so you might want to work on the clarity of your posting style before offering to give better and more concise advice than others.

You've hurt my feelings and I don't even know what OP means. I know I'm in an unstable state it was exactly what I was trying to point out there should be a specific chat for it!!

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TheErinyes · 21/11/2024 10:03

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 09:55

See perfect example! I'm literally on borrowed time being watched to drown. I have asked for specific help and specific advice and still been bombarded with the ins and out and enforced info that's not true so I've lost patience but I can't afford to lose hope rather than binning the site off I'm atleast still trying to helps others only now my punctuation isn't on peak and as quick as that someone's all over it. I know my intentions. What is your gain is your gain???

Because your writing is so unclear that what you’re actually wanting is completely obscured, OP.

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:04

Compash · 21/11/2024 09:48

What advice would you give to yourself?

I don't understand that but I don't know if it's possible or people have read my other posts I'm not on here to whinge about my problems. I'm fully capable of seeing accepting and fixing but all what has happened is based on lies and misconduct now on top of that unlawful actions. The advice I need is solely to understand the way things should be processed to confirm or deny if I am actually indenial and how on earth to put a stop to it

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Gorganzolabrie · 21/11/2024 10:07

OP stands for original poster. You're obviously struggling a lot at the moment and I feel for you.

Whilst MN can and often does offer invaluable advice and support I don't think it's always the best place for mental health support. You're posting to a bunch of random strangers, many of whom have their own issues, which can result in them lashing out without empathy or sensitivity. I hear your desire to help others; I have my own "wounded healer" tendencies so I get it. It can make it difficult to really prioritise and look after ourselves. What are you doing to look after yourself?

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:08

LittleGreenDragons · 21/11/2024 09:55

there should be a bright red forum specifically available for people who don't have time to waste
Are you talking about suicidal people? If yes, then no there shouldn't be a forum here for that. We aren't professionals or trained. You need someone like the Samaritans or your GP.

No not at all just for people in quick need of ideas of what to try without being halted at the blast of what does should wouldn't legally happen when it all has so just answer the question without making them feel like they've got the attention but have to be convincing before advised when they've got till 9am to have a plan

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MiraculousLadybug · 21/11/2024 10:10

OP I think you need 111 option 2. That's for urgent problems that can't wait. MN is great but there are trained professionals at 111 who can get you help.

ReadWithScepticism · 21/11/2024 10:12

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 09:58

You've hurt my feelings and I don't even know what OP means. I know I'm in an unstable state it was exactly what I was trying to point out there should be a specific chat for it!!

Many apologies for hurting your feelings. I thought that you opening post (that is what OP means) was offering advice for other people, but I see from your subsequent posts that you actually want and need support for yourself.
Sending love and compassion to you Flowers. I hope that you can get the support that you need in real life. Unfortunately, people's problems are often too complex and individual for people on a forum to do much more than offer hugs. Naturally they will be posting from the viewpoint of their own individual experiences which are likely to be different from yours and to produce insights that might not be relevant for you. xxx

LittleGreenDragons · 21/11/2024 10:12

I have no idea what you tried to say in response to my post. It's like you took a lot of words and just threw them together.

Please call your GP or the Samaritans if you are struggling.

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:14

LittleGreenDragons · 21/11/2024 09:55

there should be a bright red forum specifically available for people who don't have time to waste
Are you talking about suicidal people? If yes, then no there shouldn't be a forum here for that. We aren't professionals or trained. You need someone like the Samaritans or your GP.

Just to be intentionally obnoxious...yes there should still be a forum for that aswell suicidal is so poorly defined to the public. If chatrooms like this whereby real people can respond but you're warned up front it's not a crisis route 100% it would help more "suicidal" people more than a&e or Samaritans

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MiraculousLadybug · 21/11/2024 10:17

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:14

Just to be intentionally obnoxious...yes there should still be a forum for that aswell suicidal is so poorly defined to the public. If chatrooms like this whereby real people can respond but you're warned up front it's not a crisis route 100% it would help more "suicidal" people more than a&e or Samaritans

I've been suicidal many times and I'm always willing to help others but I'd avoid a board on it like the plague. A lot of evidence from social media, chatrooms etc has shown that online groups for suicidal people ends with them egging each other on and giving each other ideas. I don't think we need that. Why should the general public have our suffering inflicted on them?

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:24

Alls I wanted was advice on how to get legal assistance that I haven't already exhausted myself trying. Such as the reply about "a mckenzie friend" etc. the frustration of being upside down and it being an understandable opinion on here that I'm in some mental health crisis is ironically the crisis I'm trying to fight. This easy way of portraying me with minimum effort to set me up to portray in person has been used against me to hide really bad conduct by professionals the fact that I so easily become like this when I'm confused and misunderstood is how they have sailed through it.

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Lentilweaver · 21/11/2024 10:25

The other day somebody was complaining that no one responds to her posts asking for help with MH. You are complaining that people respond in too much detail and without specific advice.

The fact is most of us are not qualified to give MH advice. And we shouldn't. Its why I rarely respond to such posts. I would make it worse.

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:26

Lentilweaver · 21/11/2024 10:25

The other day somebody was complaining that no one responds to her posts asking for help with MH. You are complaining that people respond in too much detail and without specific advice.

The fact is most of us are not qualified to give MH advice. And we shouldn't. Its why I rarely respond to such posts. I would make it worse.

But I haven't once asked for mental health advice have i. That's my point!!

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Lentilweaver · 21/11/2024 10:28

I am struggling to understand your post and I don't think I am the only one.

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:30

I know. But that's because you're missing the details to determine the context.

The advise and suggestions I need or ask for are very generalised. The answers would be the same to anyone in any situation.

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leia24 · 21/11/2024 10:32

Are you OK?
What are you hoping to gain from this post? If its about legal advice then people on MN aren't really the experts to direct you and you should Google, ring the CAB, speak to someone from a specialist service etc.

B9KLO · 21/11/2024 10:33

Imagine being like this has lost me my babies. You either think that's right or not. There's no ins and outs or need for any further info.

I believe it's wrong. Now what on earth do I do to stop it that I haven't already tried.

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Eyesopenwideawake · 21/11/2024 10:33

You've posted in Mental Health saying I'm literally drowning unsupported with my own problems and several of us responded asking if and how we could help 😕