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Suicidal with baby

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biscuit2403 · 07/12/2023 15:13

This is a long one, thank you for reading!

I have a gorgeous child who is 9 months old, they stay with me full time and see their dad regularly. Me and my ex partner fell pregnant after only a few months of seeing one another.

I’m 4 years older than him, at the beginning of my pregnancy I found flirty messages to girls on his phone and felt so betrayed! I felt an incredible amount of pressure in my pregnancy from his side of the family as they kept saying it better be a boy as they already had girls in the family. I originally had a great relationship with his family especially his sister.

Between the 6th & 8th month of pregnancy I found myself not feeling like me, intrusive thoughts etc I asked my partner for a night or two by myself in the 8th month to gather my thoughts, I asked him to come home and explained the suicidal thoughts I was having and he refused to come home stating if he did that’s me walking all over him. When my baby was 4 weeks old he left us because he had deleted messages to a girl he had previously slept with, I asked him if he could stop messaging these girls as it’s disrespectful and he told me he wanted to be able to message whoever he wanted as I would be controlling him if I didn’t allow him.

He left again when my baby was 16 weeks old this time because he said he was moaned at too much for things like not helping round the house, or supporting me. He’s never done a night feed, and I would constantly find that I was his mother/maid. He cooked our main meal, but he felt that because he worked, his role as a dad stopped when he got home. This caused a massive argument when he came home from work one evening and I asked him to watch our child for a couple of hours so I could nip out and get some bits, I was unable to leave the house on the days he worked as he didn’t want me to leave our dog by himself, he worked 4 on 4 off. This resulted in him comparing me to other mums he knew and saying that I was a rubbish mum.

The next time he left the baby was 20 weeks old and this was because he wanted to buy himself new clothes - he was on half pay, had already borrowed money from his dad and from myself. I told him that it was a luxury at this point and to wait on his full pay the next month, he hadn’t paid me any money for living in my home for the last year or paid anything towards his child, hadn’t so much as bought him a bib. This caused him to smash his phone off the floor, become quite aggressive and shout/call me names, this frightened me. He told me I was controlling him.

In between the times he has left we have had arguments in which we’ve insulted each other, this isn’t common but I can think of a of time where I called him a shit dad, and multiple times in which he has said the same to me and other nasty names - his favourite insult is the usual psychopath/crackpot. I’ve also insulted his Mum to him but this was because she wrote a Facebook status about me and mocked me for being upset when he has left me. I feel like they were fake to my face. I am trying to be as honest as I can here because I don’t want people to think I am playing poor me or have victim mentality.

I have felt since the time he left at 20 weeks his sister and mother have constantly made me feel like an inadequate mum, they comment on what I feed my child, where he sleeps etc, and during that argument he told me that they think I’m a nutter, never happy etc. But I feel like I was constantly biting my tongue, letting my boundaries slip for the sake of my family, eg to avoid arguments I wouldn’t ask him to watch our child for me to get a break/sleep or for me to go out alone. His sisters children come from a one parent household and she uses this as an excuse as to why they are disrespectful/undisciplined, this had came up in conversation between me and my ex daily for around two weeks because of their behaviour.

In that same two weeks my mental health took a major dip, I told my ex that I felt horrendously low and that I actually hated myself, felt worthless etc. On top of that I wasn’t getting any sleep as my child was waking up 10/12 times a night (please this is not an exaggeration)

My birthday night out came around and I did not want to go, that morning I even said to my ex I wasn’t feeling it. I knew inside something was going to go wrong. It resulted in me getting black out drunk - I rarely drink & I don’t remember anything passed 8pm, but apparently I pushed his sister & insulted her parenting. When I came home my ex was furious which resulted in me hitting him, now because I don’t remember, him and his families story has changed it went from pushed his face away, to scratched, to slap, to punch. They are now using terms like assault and attack - which I suppose technically it is. I don’t remember if he pushed me back. I have never been violent in my life.

Anyway he left that night and it was all over. This was around two months ago, and we were getting on fine until I mentioned things like maintenance payments, support I needed from him etc. I found my MH severely taking a beating. I found myself becoming literally delusional, I made a fake Snapchat using his name (wtf) I didn’t have any intention of doing anything malicious on it I think it was just an excuse to get his attention and I deleted it within seconds but he knew because I synced my contacts so since then he has blocked me and we don’t speak at all. His family are compulsive liars - eg pretend they are in hospital when they are not. They are also insanely dramatic, but my ex is the apple of their eye.

So all of this - horrendous, inexcusable, vile behaviour from myself has broken up my family.

I have been diagnosed with severe pp depression, that they think started in my pregnancy, and I am seriously considering ending it all.

I can’t forgive my actions I am the world’s worst person. I don’t know if I want to die because I am heartbroken, or because I am depressed. I have tried everything but nothing is working! I’m still in love with him and the thought of him hating me, makes me ill, especially because I have to see him for the next 18 years!

My poor beautiful child is in the middle of all of this chaos I have created!

OP posts:
WowOK · 07/12/2023 15:26

I think you are being really hard on yourself. Yes, you have done stuff that is unacceptable but I actually think you are very unwell and need support rather than condemnation. What support are you getting? Are your doctor, health visitor aware of how bad your mental health actually is. I think we often pretend we feel better than we do because of fear. Fear of judgement. Fear of losing our children. I think you need to be really honest and get help. You aren't horrible or a bad person you're unwell. Forget the relationship and really focus on you. You need to get well to be the best version of yourself for your future and your child's.

CleoKitten · 07/12/2023 15:34

Firstly. Please be kinder to yourself. It sounds to me like you have br n in a controlling, narcissistic relationship and his actions and the way he had gaslighted you has led to this breakdown in your mental health. We do crazy things when we get to breaking point. You are not a bad person. The fact that you hav come on here and poured your heart out and feel bad for your actions says to me that you are struggling. In my ey s you've done nothing wrong and have one reacted to the way you have been treated. I bet your a great mum. Up just need to pull it together for the sake of your little one. Forget about him and move on. I know easier said than done but it's the only way you can move forward with your baby. Just the two of you from now on.

FatFatMary · 07/12/2023 15:39

I think your ex is a weak man. Let him go and you will be happy.

Gnomegnomegnome · 07/12/2023 15:42

When they diagnosed you with postnatal depression what support did they offer? Any medication?

Do you have family or friends that can be with you?

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biscuit2403 · 07/12/2023 15:54

They gave me sertraline and they are going to contact me in regards to speaking to a psychiatrist.

During my pregnancy I actually googled how to kill myself without harming my baby, I told my ex this, I feel like I’ve been screaming out for help and he’s chose not to listen. I think the lack of support has contributed to it spiralling. I’m not blaming him but I don’t think he made it easier. I know his family will say I am using this as an excuse to justify my destrictive behaviour.

When he first left I told him how bad I was feeling and I was going to take myself for a drive but i would need to take the baby. He said I was an unstable mother and social services would take my baby off me if they seen me like that.

I hace family and friends but they dont really live close, I have tried to tell them how bad it is when they ask I tell them it feels like I am dying, but I dont think they get it!

They say just give it time but i think im running out of time - how awful when a baby is involved.

OP posts:
cbbo · 07/12/2023 16:06

You need help, I'm so sorry you're in such a low place. Tell your doctor and health visitor you feel suicidal and keep going back till you get the help you need.

FatFatMary · 07/12/2023 16:28

I know right now you love him but I think that will change in time. He got you pregnant and deserted and messed you around when you had a newborn baby. Do you think he really deserves your love ? I doubt he’s breaking his heart over this like you are. You will not be able to get over how he’s treated you. I think there’s a high chance he will come back and repeat the cycle all over again for as long as you let him. I think you should definitely seek counselling. You could be so happy just you and your baby don’t let him ruin it

WowOK · 07/12/2023 17:24

Can you go and be with your family?

WowOK · 07/12/2023 17:27

Also, I know it's hard to do anything when you feel so low but you need to talk to your doctor again and HV. When did you start taking the anti depressants?

EyeInTheSky23 · 07/12/2023 17:43

Op, I wrote this in your relationships thread but it's been deleted and I've been directed to here, so I'll copy it in here;

One of the main things that strikes me overall from your post, op, is that you can't see the wood for trees.

You can write the things he's done ... And then seriously say that you feel you've destroyed the relationship/family.

It's mind boggling.

His behaviour has destroyed the relationship ... His behaviour would cause serious anger, resentment, lack of trust etc in any relationship. His behaviour would sink any relationship.

Yet you seriously think it's you?

I don't know if it will help or not to say this but I don't think he was ever truly "in" ...

He doesn't strike me as a man who was ready for a committed, monogamous relationship with a child now (or who knows when) but maybe he felt he had to make a show/attempt at having one; he's totally half assed it though. Flirty communication (at the least) with other women, no night feds, no taking over to give you a break, no changes to his spending (selfish, superficial spending), tantrums like a child when you pull him up on his unreasonable behaviour, leaving you for a,b and c. I think to some extent, he's always wanted to duck out.

Claiming youre unstable and a psycho and blah blah is just another good excuse ("I'm a good guy, I tried for my child but she's crazy"). We've all heard that about certain men's baby mamas .... Usually it was the men who were driving them crazy.

His family are in on it cause they want to pretend he's not a shit person too.

They're gas lighting you.

He's always wanted out imho.

EyeInTheSky23 · 07/12/2023 17:53

They won't take a child off its mother if she's engaging with social services, mental health support etc

You need to tell whoever's involved that he's not done one night feed, leading to severe sleep deprivation on your part and that's he's been abusive. - the verbal abuse, the spending, the phone smashing and being aggressive, telling you your child will be taken off you etc.

EyeInTheSky23 · 07/12/2023 17:56

It sounds like you had the type of depression women can get during pregnancy.

I think it's then more common for those women to get pnd too.

The severe sleep deprivation and all the issues he was causing during the pregnancy etc (flirty texting other women) could easily contribute to that.

You will get through it.

Your child only has one decent, responsible, parent and it's not him.

Ardith · 07/12/2023 18:00

OP you’ve had an incredibly difficult time to deal with. A surprise pregnancy, post-natal depression, and an ex-partner who was no help and messaging other women.

And, a baby who doesn’t sleep - I had one of those and I absolutely understand what it’s like when they wake 10-12 times a night. It feels like your brain is breaking. Does your baby sleep in a cot? I ask because if so, remember that she is safe while in her cot and even if she is crying, if you need to, it is ok to go into the other room or step outside the house if you need to, so that you can calm down or have a cry or whatever. Or just lie on the floor next to her cot for a while.

Looking after a baby is not a one person task, we evolved to care for babies in groups, but mums today are expected to do it alone and do the work of several people non-stop, plus babies are completely insane, and it’s all incredibly hard.

You are not the first mum to consider suicide but please remember that you’d be giving up an entire future, and wrecking your child’s life. If you stay alive then I promise you that things will get better. One day you and your child will be playing in the sunshine on the beach and giggling over ice creams. Don’t throw that away. Your baby loves you more than anyone in the world and if you’re gone she will have no one to protect her from her crap dad / the dangers of foster homes.

You aren’t the worst person in the world. (What about Putin and the Hamas murderers etc?!) You are a new mum struggling to cope with no support in a very difficult situation. Find small things to look forward to: tomorrow morning’s cup of coffee, or a tv show, or whatever you enjoy. Try not to drink alcohol for a while as it makes depression so much worse. Talk to someone: please call a helpline. Some might be less good than others but don’t give up. Here are some ideas. You can also ask social services for help: they do not want to take your baby away, they want to help both of you.

You can also search for local support groups and find details of national telephone or email support lines on the Maternal Mental Health Alliance website

https://maternalmentalhealthalliance.org/about-maternal-mental-health/support-mums-and-families/

biscuit2403 · 07/12/2023 18:24

I have also said on a few occasions that his family won’t see our child - and they say I am using him as a tool. But it’s nothing to do with that, I just want to protect them from their poison. The night I got drunk they said I said it to my ex too. I have never and would never keep our child from him.

I am scared of not telling of the times I have been out of line so I can get a fair response.

I only have my mum but she works night shifts, so she sleeps during the day.

When I wanted a shower, or to go to the shop etc he would say things like hurry up, don’t be long, there was always a time limit even if we were both in the house there were times I had to take the baby in to the bathroom with me in his chair whilst my ex went and lay down on bed on his phone. I feel burnt out, like my life has been ripped from me.

His family say things like I’m the manipulating one and that I’m not happy in life unless I am creating a drama out of something or for someone. I just don’t think they like I defend myself, they have no idea how hard it’s been.

They have gone months without talking to the other, they gloat on how they don’t accept apologises and hold grudges etc.

They say I am making his life a misery because I am trying to control his relationship with his child because I can no longer control him, this is all because I booked activities in advance with my child that happened to be on days my ex was off work and on the other day my ex had plans so couldn’t take him but he didn’t initiate to see him on the other days either, I am just expected to be free.

I told him that if I were to meet anybody else he would practically raise his son because he only wants to see him on his days off which add up to around 11 hours a week. Something I shouldn’t have said. I don’t know why I can’t control my mouth!!

I just feel like I am stuck feeling like my child would be better without me because I just feel like this horrible person

OP posts:
FatFatMary · 07/12/2023 18:54

Sometimes when people accuse you of being controlling they are projecting their own personalities onto you.

WowOK · 07/12/2023 19:17

I don't think you're controlling. I think you sound exhausted, overwhelming and at capacity. I think your ex is arsehole. I think he failed you as a partner, and he has failed your child as a father. I'm not sure what you love/loved.

You aren't at his beck and call. He can't just call and expect you to drop everything. I would offer him set contact time (on days he is not working) twice a week. I'd start with 2 hours and build up. That time should be away from you and your home. You need a break. He needs how to be a parent.

Most importantly you need to get well so you can be the best you.

biscuit2403 · 07/12/2023 20:14

That’s what I told him that I’m just overwhelmed & it’s hard & he said that’s just a mothers role. Males provide & protect

Because his sister done it herself then everyone should find it as easy

OP posts:
WowOK · 07/12/2023 20:28

biscuit2403 · 07/12/2023 20:14

That’s what I told him that I’m just overwhelmed & it’s hard & he said that’s just a mothers role. Males provide & protect

Because his sister done it herself then everyone should find it as easy

Thats just a cop-out that lazy men try to use to get out of doing anything or patenting their own kids. Mothers role is to do everything while he does a 9 - 5 and sits on his arse the rest of the time on his phone or gaming. He's working so he needs to rest. He's working so he can't get up in the night. No one can do everything without support. Something has to give.

He isn't providing or protecting either is he?

EyeInTheSky23 · 08/12/2023 12:55

I just feel like this horrible person

There is literally nothing on any of your posts that leads me to think you're a horrible person.

You have reacted entirely naturally to your ex and his family's behaviour. And to sleep deprivation, and to lack of support/help/weight pulling by your ex.

A horrible person - op, if a partner have mine had acted the way yours has, I'd probably have been arrested by now lol. I'd have screamed at him, attacked him, called his family a pile of cunts to their faces and told them to fuck off and that thir 'better be a boy" comment was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard and they are like Jeremy Kyle show contestants.

None is this is what I'm recommending, I'm just saying that you're not remotely a horrible person. And I wouldn't be one, even if I'd done the above.

With him and them as a father and in-laws, your child needs you more than anyone could ever need someone.

EyeInTheSky23 · 08/12/2023 13:02

Males provide & protect

What Andrew Tate bullshite has he been reading??

Where are we, in the Neolithic period?

Males, decent males, do whatever any parent does, whatever both parents do. My partner - who, believe me is no saint, took our lo every evening (on top of a very demanding job) from 7/8/9 o'clock til 12 or 1 in the morning to try to let me get some sleep. And all night on weekend nights.
He changed nappies, he took her on his own, he bathed her etc etc.

And he's a 6'4" football loving, sporty, bloke.

Your ex is FULL OF SHIT.

His theories on a male's role very conveniently let him do sweet FA. Not pull his weight.

And how is he providing ... when he was spending money you didn't have on clothes for himself (on top of lending money from his family)??

You need to change his name on your phone to "Bull shit alert" so you can keep in mind to go into eye rolling mode the second he or his dumb, toxic family say their latest inflammatory nonsense.

What does your Mum make of this shower of silly bastards?

EyeInTheSky23 · 08/12/2023 13:12

Because his sister done it herself then everyone should find it as easy

Who cares.

Babies are all different. Some people have babies who sleep through the night from 4 or 6 weeks old

Others, like us, have ones who wake up 10 times a night. My partner tried to help but I still got pnd.

And where was his sister's partner/baby daddy? Even if they weren't together, he should have been doing his bit. They sound like a bunch of people with very low standards. "Her child's father did fuck all, so it's fine that I'm doing next to nothing too. You're the problem". Mm no, they're the problem.

EyeInTheSky23 · 08/12/2023 13:18

They have gone months without talking to the other, they gloat on how they don’t accept apologises and hold grudges etc.

They are a bunch of toxic assholes.

You need to stop all.communication with them by any means.

If you have to communicate with Mr dead beat Dad, selfish, cheater; then do so by one platform, like a co-parenting app, and make it clear it's about access and the contents may be viewed by any relevant authorities.

But you might be better getting your Mum or someone to do the communicating.

Listening to their nonsense is really stressful and triggering ... And you don't have to. There is no reason in the world you have to listen to any of it.

biscuit2403 · 08/12/2023 14:59

No one else can do any communicating because after Snapchat gate (I genuinely feel so embarrassed even typing that) his sister called me and said I was obsessed with him when he doesn’t want me, called me skank, a fat cow, that I leave my baby crying in a corner, unable to look after him by myself, that I was one of many and nothing special to my ex. And then him & his fully family blocked me, and then they all blocked my mum - which is so bizarre because she has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Funnily enough he was an Andrew Tate fan.

His sisters children’s dad sees them twice a week, not overnight and cancels and reschedules quite often. They call him the sperm donor, because with their second child they went on holiday whilst separated and she trapped him as she wanted another baby but didn’t want them to have different dads.

I just can’t believe I hit him or attacked/assaulted no matter how black out drunk I was I just can’t my head around that. Sober me would never, not in a million years.

I think that’s what I’m struggling with, that my actions caused him to walk away from us for good. I feel awful and so guilty that I couldn’t give my baby a two parent household.

Today has been horrendous, my child has been awake since half 5 after waking up every hour from 8. I can’t put them down because they literally sob when I leave the room, I have tried everything, chairs in the room I’m in, jumperoos etc but they just want to be held. I try the sling wrap but I feel so weak with them on me constantly.

The sertraline side effects are absolutely horrendous I can’t be a functioning mother with these side effects.

I feel like a failure for feeling like this, I refuse to even use social media anymore because it just makes me feel worse.

I received a text from him today to say he has got a lawyer to write him a second letter to state when he’s to see our baby. He said there will be a first letter sent that was drafted prior to the second, I can only imagine what that one is going to say. All of this makes me sick to my stomach.

OP posts:
FatFatMary · 08/12/2023 15:12

It’s weird how he’s involving family his family in your relationship. I think you lashed out after months of abuse when you were at your most vulnerable and him ganging up against you with his family