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Citalopram 10mg

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Rainbow1994 · 19/10/2023 11:19

I am 4 weeks nearly 5 into 10mg citalopram for really bad anxiety i have suffered years with it. I have 3 children one been 9month old and it seems to have got worse, i got to where i couldnt eat i was loosing weight couldnt concentrate and just panicky all the time google EVERYTHING, worst case scenario when the children are ill you name it i have done it. I hit a wall and went to the doctor. Now the doctors have tried plenty of times to put me on ADs and i have refused but this time i knew i needed. Anyway the 1st two weeks were awful i wanted to stop. The 3rd week i felt glimpses of my old self and was laughing and had energy. And this week i seem to be struggling again not like i was but its there. is this normal in the first 6 weeks? The doctor wants to up my dose but im so scared of the side effects again.
Please dont give me anything to over think or be scared of as i actually give myself symptoms!
I just want peoples POSITIVE experiences on citalopram.

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Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 12:32

Been to doctors thinking i had an ear infection turns out i have knackerd my nerve system up on right side of my face through clenching my teeth! Got to up my medication 😩

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ISeeTrees · 23/10/2023 13:57

You could see it as worrying about side effects during half term, or you could look at it like this: the side effects aren't guaranteed. I didn't even notice side effects when I increased my dose, besides a little nausea that I had anyway from being so stressed. Even if you do, are those side effects worse than the anxiety you're currently experiencing, and almost guaranteed to continue experiencing if you don't up the meds?
Palpitations/heart racing is very common, try to keep your bloody sugars stable and take a few minutes every now and again to breathe. I did/do it on the hour. Make sure I'm not clenching my teeth, make sure I'm not holding my tongue to the roof of my mouth, drop my shoulders down and take a few really long, slow breaths.

SheilaFentiman · 23/10/2023 14:06

I am not a doctor, but I do take 20mg of citalopram currently. I started on 10mg. It is for anxiety.

My understanding is that 10mg is not really a therapeutic dose although it might be a maintenance dose. Doctors start there to ensure the side effects aren't unbearable, if so, they would try a different SSRI rather than increase to 20mg.

I experienced more side effects going 0-10mg than I did 10-20mg. I was very sleepy initially.

(I also experienced some early relief even on 10mg but I honestly think that was partly because I had got so wound up about starting at all that the relief of having decided and got going was quite strong!)

BigPussyEnergy · 23/10/2023 14:11

Sending you a big hug. It’s awful dealing with anxiety and when the treatment causes you even more anxiety it’s so unfair.

FWIW I resisted taking any ADs for years as I felt like I should fix the ‘cause’ of my anxiety and depression rather than rely on drugs with their long lists of side effects.

However last year I got so low that I felt I had no choice but to try them. Started on - what was described to me as a very low dose - 10mg to ensure I didn’t get bad side effects, as I told the GP I was worried about it.

It helped really quickly but after a few weeks I did start slipping back and so we upped it to 20mg. Once I was stabilised on that and felt back to my old self, no tearfulness, no snappiness, (but still with appropriate emotions for the situation!) I thought I could try going back to 10mg. Few headaches and a bit snappy again. So I went back onto 20mg and have been for about a year.

Honestly the only side effect that even slightly bothers me is a reduced ability to orgasm, but as I’m single that’s a rare problem at the moment! I still can. But it’s not as good.

Otherwise it’s really been a game changer for me and I have no plan to stop taking it. Would definitely recommend upping it and sticking with it for a few weeks if you can, along with trying to take care of yourself in other ways, eg a walk in the sunshine (maybe with music so you don’t end up THINKING the whole time!), a nice bath with candles and a book, just some things to help you switch off.

Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 14:44

ISeeTrees · 23/10/2023 13:57

You could see it as worrying about side effects during half term, or you could look at it like this: the side effects aren't guaranteed. I didn't even notice side effects when I increased my dose, besides a little nausea that I had anyway from being so stressed. Even if you do, are those side effects worse than the anxiety you're currently experiencing, and almost guaranteed to continue experiencing if you don't up the meds?
Palpitations/heart racing is very common, try to keep your bloody sugars stable and take a few minutes every now and again to breathe. I did/do it on the hour. Make sure I'm not clenching my teeth, make sure I'm not holding my tongue to the roof of my mouth, drop my shoulders down and take a few really long, slow breaths.

Yes i have started to get nausea from anxiety anyway its horrible. So does citalopram take away the palpatations?

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Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 14:45

SheilaFentiman · 23/10/2023 14:06

I am not a doctor, but I do take 20mg of citalopram currently. I started on 10mg. It is for anxiety.

My understanding is that 10mg is not really a therapeutic dose although it might be a maintenance dose. Doctors start there to ensure the side effects aren't unbearable, if so, they would try a different SSRI rather than increase to 20mg.

I experienced more side effects going 0-10mg than I did 10-20mg. I was very sleepy initially.

(I also experienced some early relief even on 10mg but I honestly think that was partly because I had got so wound up about starting at all that the relief of having decided and got going was quite strong!)

So didnt you experience bad side effects from upping 10-20?

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Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 14:46

BigPussyEnergy · 23/10/2023 14:11

Sending you a big hug. It’s awful dealing with anxiety and when the treatment causes you even more anxiety it’s so unfair.

FWIW I resisted taking any ADs for years as I felt like I should fix the ‘cause’ of my anxiety and depression rather than rely on drugs with their long lists of side effects.

However last year I got so low that I felt I had no choice but to try them. Started on - what was described to me as a very low dose - 10mg to ensure I didn’t get bad side effects, as I told the GP I was worried about it.

It helped really quickly but after a few weeks I did start slipping back and so we upped it to 20mg. Once I was stabilised on that and felt back to my old self, no tearfulness, no snappiness, (but still with appropriate emotions for the situation!) I thought I could try going back to 10mg. Few headaches and a bit snappy again. So I went back onto 20mg and have been for about a year.

Honestly the only side effect that even slightly bothers me is a reduced ability to orgasm, but as I’m single that’s a rare problem at the moment! I still can. But it’s not as good.

Otherwise it’s really been a game changer for me and I have no plan to stop taking it. Would definitely recommend upping it and sticking with it for a few weeks if you can, along with trying to take care of yourself in other ways, eg a walk in the sunshine (maybe with music so you don’t end up THINKING the whole time!), a nice bath with candles and a book, just some things to help you switch off.

This is whats happened to me i was doing brilliant and then this week i have slipped and the heart palpatations have returned! So you also didnt experience side effects going from 10-20 ?

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SheilaFentiman · 23/10/2023 14:47

Not particularly, no - I think I got a bit sleepy again, but not as bad as going 0-10.

Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 14:50

@SheilaFentiman thanks for your reply i need to do something because the palpatations have returned which have also been gone a few weeks! But after a crap week come back! Im so fed up.

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Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 14:52

I sometimes worry when i get the physical symptoms because my head can be clear but still get physical symptoms.

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ISeeTrees · 23/10/2023 15:01

It will help the anxiety which will help the palpitations. Mine were quite severe (PTSD) so I used propanalol as well to get things under control.
Lots of people have said that they experienced no/minimal side effects from increasing their dose OP but none of us are you- the only thing you can do is try. It's reassuring that you didn't react badly when you started them so it's likely to go in your favour- I honestly think you'll be glad you did it.

SheilaFentiman · 23/10/2023 15:05

I agree with @ISeeTrees

Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 15:06

ISeeTrees · 23/10/2023 15:01

It will help the anxiety which will help the palpitations. Mine were quite severe (PTSD) so I used propanalol as well to get things under control.
Lots of people have said that they experienced no/minimal side effects from increasing their dose OP but none of us are you- the only thing you can do is try. It's reassuring that you didn't react badly when you started them so it's likely to go in your favour- I honestly think you'll be glad you did it.

Yes thats whats helped me a little lots have said they experienced none or just a little. Yes i managed to get through them on 10 and that was literally starting from scratch. Im just going to take 20 in the morning before i go to work and hope for the best.

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Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 15:34

Can i ask what time of day people take them?

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SheilaFentiman · 23/10/2023 15:50

Evening

Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 16:09

@SheilaFentiman thats when im going to take mine when i up my dose just had a ohone call to start cbt wednesday!

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ladyvimes · 23/10/2023 16:12

I started on 10 went up to 20 and am now on 40 daily. Been on Citalopram for about 8 years and on that dose for about 5. I’m so much better now and don’t have hardly any down days although do suffer with anxiety occasionally. No plans to come off it.

ladyvimes · 23/10/2023 16:12

I was told by a doctor that You should take it in the morning as it can disrupt sleep.

ladyvimes · 23/10/2023 16:13

Oh and I felt sick, dizzy and struggled to sleep for about a week each time I upped my dose.

Rainbow1994 · 23/10/2023 16:15

@ladyvimes thanks for your replt. I can deal with the sickness and dizziness as i get this with anxiety anyway! I have the light head today. The nausea wasnt good i was dry renching all the time and every morning felt like morning sickness but i got through.

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SheilaFentiman · 23/10/2023 16:21

I prefer to take it at night as it made me sleepy!

Sillymummies123 · 25/10/2023 16:07

I'm very sensitive to medications. Am a very a analytical and therefore anxious person. Have had several burnouts, (think I'm probably autistic), but tried citalopram last September when going through a difficult time with my ASD son.

I'm still on it now, and for context I left my long term job last September to retrain as a doctor. I glided through the medical degree on citalopram. Had some initial sweating, but who knows if that was the citalopram as I was a rotten anxious mess before I started them. To be perfectly honest, at my highest dose I was alternating between 10mg and 20mg on alternate days. 20mg was too much for me. Felt spaced and had a bad tummy. The half life is like 36 hours so it take a week to reach max plasma concentration anyway. Day 5 of 20mg was a bit bleegg. So I did the alternate and eventually settled on 10mg for 8 months.

Rainbow1994 · 25/10/2023 20:00

@Sillymummies123 thankyou for your reply i still have not upped my dose! After everyone taking there time to reassure me im just too scared to up 😫. So did you start alternating between days and realise 20 was too much?

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Sillymummies123 · 25/10/2023 20:09

Well, as a wannabe doctor, I had already made a spreadsheet using the half life to work out when my plasma levels would be at their max, and I just got a bit too anxious at 20mg about 7 days in (I've NO doubt that it would have leveled out given time) so I went to 10mg/20mg alternate days. When I felt a bit better I went to 10mg long term.

I started on 20mg as a first dose, but put myself onto the equivalent of 15mg (via alternating 10mg vs 20mg each day). As I say, I imagine my brain would have adapted to 20mg but I was very reluctant to take antidepressants in general.

I'd also read an interesting paper that GPs (who, like all of us, are punching in the dark with regards to SSRI use) tend to up a dose when a treatment response isn't achieved, but that similar outcomes were found I patients given more time at a mid dose, than being put to a high dose. In other words, sometimes time on a smaller dose is equal to moving up dose. So I maintained 15mg, and then 10mg (and then 5 for a while!, which was akin to not being on them). I'm starting them back up again now on 10mg because I am just finding that my personal circumstances (violent ASD DS) are still challenging.

FWIW, bear in mind that depression usually coexists with a dramatic battering of the brain - loss of the ability of neurons to grow and recover, actual loss of size etc. - and so much of the initial SSRI wobble can be attributed to the brain being in awful shape in the first place. Side effects (I had very few and felt much calmer within days, happier much later) do tend to reduce dramatically/go away with time..

Rainbow1994 · 25/10/2023 20:32

@Sillymummies123 wow thanks for the info! I even bought a pill cutter to cut 1 in half and take 15mg as a PP mentioned above and still not done it.
There is 1 reason holding me back abd its the fact i came off depo about 2 weeks ago and had a very heavy flow since so hoping its hormonal as to why i have "dipped" x

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