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littlemisssunshinehere · 05/06/2020 19:49

I'm desperate for a outside perspective.
My husband has been diagnosed with psychosis. I'm living at my in laws house with my 2 and half year old and I'm 30 weeks pregnant. He has been referred to a NHS team. We had to ring the ambulance today because he was Suicidal. He went willingly. He is now saying he is discharging himself (because he can by law).
He is hearing voices, he thinks the government are speaking to him through bbc news. All me and his parents have done is cry because he won't take his meds because he doesn't think he is ill. If he leaves I personally don't think it is safe for me and mr son to be around but he said if I leave he will kill himself.
I'm so stressed out and have Been for the last 3 weeks I'm surprised the stress hasn't made me ill. He thinks rappers in America are talking to him, he thinks everyone in the world has been watching him. He won't take his meds so I'm my head he won't get better and then I worry about the safety of me and my child. What do I do? Someone please give me some advice I'm desperate

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HappyHammy · 05/06/2020 19:52

Oh dear. Have you spoken to the ward to tell them all this and that you do not feel safe if he is discharged. Do they know how unwell he is at the moment.

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littlemisssunshinehere · 05/06/2020 19:59

@HappyHammy I think I can ring them at 8 and if so I will explain to them what's going on. And I think so, the ambulance staff who picked him up will have most probably informed the staff at the unit what's happened. I think they've also been in contact with his psychosis team. He's very good at acting like everything is okay, when I spoke to him caseworker earlier this morning he was unaware of a lot of the stuff I was saying as my husband was sugar coating it to him. He thinks the hospital have purposely given him covid and they are going to kill him aNd cover up his death. I really don't know what to do

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Aquamarine1029 · 05/06/2020 20:02

Can you go somewhere else besides your in-laws? Personally, I don't think you should be around him in this state.

Mangofandangoo · 05/06/2020 20:02

So sorry OP, I do not have any advice to offer but just wanted to offer some support.

This is an awkward question, and please forgive me if it's inappropriate, but do you think he needs to be sectioned un till they can come up with a plan to keep him safe?

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littlemisssunshinehere · 05/06/2020 20:06

@-7@Aquamarine1029
Yes I could go to my uncles who lives round the corner but as I said he's saying he will kill him self if I leave. So I either stay in a house with a man I'm worried to be around or leave and worry that he's going to kill himself im at my wits end!
@Mangofandangoo and yes I do think he needs to be sectioned he is a danger to himself completely. But I don't think they would section him unless has tried to hurt himself or others which he hasn't he's only said he wants to he hasn't physically done anything yet

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LittleMissNaice · 05/06/2020 20:11

You need to let the ward know that he's making threats to harm himself.

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littlemisssunshinehere · 05/06/2020 20:11

@LittleMissNaice I will just waiting for them to do a shift swap and then I will give them a ring

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Mangofandangoo · 05/06/2020 20:12

Have you advised them that you are pregnant and there is also a small child in the house? Maybe that will help?

Aquamarine1029 · 05/06/2020 20:14

He's manipulating you by threatening suicide, don't be held hostage by it. Think about your child's safety, and yours. That must be your first prior and is solely your responsibility.

Embracelife · 05/06/2020 20:14

You look after yourself and baby to be and tell the medical staff what he is planning to do.
He cannot hold you to ransome.

RippleEffects · 05/06/2020 20:15

you have a right to feel safe and can request assessment for sectioning. You need to find out who the hospitals approved mental health worker is. Its a horrible thing to find yourself in a position to need to do.

www.mind.org.uk/information-support/legal-rights/sectioning/family-members/

If he is leaves hospital prior to an assessment, the police can be quite supportive. I was involved in a close family member being sectioned and the police interveened arested them and got the mental health assessment. The next of kin family member had to meet the approved mental health assessment people - it was two in this instance, I was asked to attend to support them.

Embracelife · 05/06/2020 20:16

And your toddler.
You cannot look after toddler newborn And man with psychosis.
Let MH professional look after him

HappyHammy · 05/06/2020 20:20

Can your inlaws just refuse to let him in if he does turn up and call the police. Do you live with them permanently. Hope the hospital realise how much risk this is and keep him in hospital.

Rustnot · 05/06/2020 20:21

Is he still in A and E or has he been admitted to a pysch ward?

If he has psychosis and is off his medication and refusing to take them, he may well be sectioned so that he can be stabilised. It's Friday evening so it might take a while for him to be assessed by a doctor.

Once he is admitted to a pysch ward, the nurses can refuse to let him leave and keep him for a period of time before he is assessed by the doctors.

I hope he gets the help he needs

granadagirl · 05/06/2020 20:50

Tell them you don’t want him home, you feel unsafe for yourself, child and your 30 was pregnant. There’s nowhere you can stay, as I’m sure you want to be in your own home
also he’s said he will kill himself if you leave.
Remind them he won’t admit to how bad he is,and doesn’t take his meds because he knows they will put him in hospital if he did
He’s very good at pretending

Nicolanomore24 · 05/06/2020 20:54

If you phone the police they will take him into hospital were he will be assessed and hopefully sectioned.

I have been through this and it is absolutely horrendous. The constant worry that someone may harm themselves is just awful. Make it clear at hospital that you believe he should be sectioned, even for the initial 72 hours (I think it’s 72 hours anyway) just so the doctors can see how he is behaving.

ChequerBoard · 05/06/2020 20:59

You need to make it clear to the MH services that he is a risk to himself and to you and the DC. MH inpatient beds are are extremely scarce, it's all down to managing risk, you are going to have to make your voice heard and keep challenging.

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littlemisssunshinehere · 05/06/2020 21:08

Hi everyone, just to give an update. The doctor came round and asses him and he has been detained under mental health,any insight on what this means?

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HappyHammy · 05/06/2020 21:15

The doctor would have decided that he needs to stay in hospital under a Section of the Mental Health Act either to assess him or to treat him, there are different types of Section. It's good that he is being kept in and you will all be safe. You can call the ward and ask what Section he is under and what the plans are once he has been in for a night.
www.mind.org.uk/information-support/legal-rights/sectioning/about-sectioning/

ChequerBoard · 05/06/2020 21:16

It means he has been sectioned and will be kept in hospital. There are many types of sectioning orders and you need to find out which one he has been detained under.

Here's a link to MIND's guidance on the Mental Health Act.

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/legal-rights/sectioning/about-sectioning/

Embracelife · 05/06/2020 21:17

They should explain it to you. But call MIND or check their website

Rustnot · 05/06/2020 21:25

I would imagine at this time on a Friday evening he has only been seen by one doctor, and has been given a 72 hour section.

Usually two doctors are needed to carry out an assessment and issue a section 2 or 3 (where you can be kept in hospital for 28 days or 6 months respectively). I know that some changes have been made due to coronavirus and staff availability. Whilst under section he will have to take meds, so hopefully once he is medicated again there will be an improvement in his condition.

Nicolanomore24 · 05/06/2020 22:23

That’s good news and must be a big relief to you. As others have said he has now been sectioned and cannot leave hospital without the consent of doctors.

He will have been given the initial 72 hour section so he can be assessed. After the first 72 hours be may be kept in hospital as a voluntary patient if he agrees or he may be given a 30 day section.

Either way, he now has to take his medication which will hopefully get him in a better place and help him understand that he needs it to be well.

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littlemisssunshinehere · 05/06/2020 22:35

They've said that he hasn't been sectioned he's only been detained, they can only detain him for 24 hours. He hasn't seen a psychiatrist yet so I'm hoping they won't let him out until atleast Monday

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ChequerBoard · 05/06/2020 22:48

Sounds like a Section 136 or 135. Either way he will held and assessed. Depending on the assessment outcome he may be discharged or detained under a different part of the Mental Health Act.

https://www.rethink.org/advice-and-information/rights-restrictions/police-courts-and-prison/section-136/

https://www.rethink.org/advice-and-information/rights-restrictions/police-courts-and-prison/section-135/

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