what use is psychiatry, since it always ruins people's lives?

[namitababe]

is it wrong to hate psychiatry, since it's an evil science, and they are all bullies at heart?

psychiatry is evil... it's pathetic and false. it's pretty much just subjective thinking, and little else. psychiatry is also about bullying, harshness, and not comprehending modern society.

so i ask, what use is it?

is it wrong to look at porn?

is it wrong to drink booze? is it wrong not to use Standard English? I technically haven't by not capitalising my sentences, will those "people" come and section me? are tattoos wrong and an illness?
is it wrong to be gay? will people be sectioned for being gay? do people who look smart "deserve to be bullied"?? Is it wrong to use slang? I have some jamaican friends, so is saying "rassclaat" a mental illness now? if so, then section millions of Jamaicans everywhere.....

So i despise this practice, and it should be banned, forever. Is hating religion and not going to church an illness too?
or having some bigoted thoughts on other groups? were those white nationalists in the USA lately mentally ill?

but that's fine....if they want to section me for NORMAL shit, then fine. in my country, the UK, this is what most of them believe, and they're all fucking bullies, since i doubt they say that to everybody. i doubt they have the time to section up millions of people, since this is how we behave.

Eh?

Wait...what?

I agree but not as strong as you. I know many psychiatrists and counsellors who's lives are in a complete mess, but here we have them telling us how to fix our problems and the can't fix their own.

But

Talking helps
Psychiatrists are trained to listen
All people want is someone to listen to them

There is no such thing as normality.

Op you are not making any sense.

It saved my life. It got me back on track in my darkest days.
Is there someone you can call Op?

If you get rid of psychiatrists, who is going to treat mental illness, @namitababe?

I have depression, that has been pretty severe sometimes - I have had suicidal thoughts, and often considered the world would not miss me. Psychiatry, counselling and antidepressants have saved my life.

Most recently, my psychiatrist prescribed a combination of antidepressants that has pulled me out of a dark, deep depression that had lasted months, and made life not worth living.

Are you happy to condemn everyone who suffers from a mental illness to a life of suffering, or even death - because you want to get rid of the people who treat these illnesses.

This makes me really cross. Maybe you have had a bad experience with a psychiatrist or psychiatry, but it is a vital part of the healthcare system for many people.

You think psychiatric practice is predicated on a narrow set of socio-cultural norms? And it is therefore damaging?

What's upset you tonight particularly? It's an odd time for a theoretical debate and you don't sound happy.

There's always the option to try different forms of talking therapy. Does the situation allow for that or is it more of a crisis?

Also, it is wrong to make such a sweeping statement without offering factual evidence. So where are the facts and figures that prove that psychiatry "...always ruins people's lives...", @namitababe?

Psychiatry has saved my life, not ruined it - so I am afraid I disprove your statement.

Tell us what's up OP.

Psychiatry is saving my mother's life. Psychiatry is a privilege, and she will live, when in many countries she would have been left to die. Psychiatry will work with her to bring her out of her deep, deep depression. Psychiatry will work with her to recognise that she needs to eat. Psychiatry will work with her to help her regain her self- care skills. Psychiatry will help her regain her self-esteem.

Being sectioned has kept her safe when she hasn't been able to keep herself safe. It has provided her with a nurturing environment to meet her needs, without the demands of daily life. When she has become so ill that her kidneys failed, being sectioned meant that she automatically got the treatment she needed, because they didn't have to try and convince her to accept it - they had the authority to treat her.

Being sectioned is the absolute best thing that could happen to my Mum right now. She wants to be better, but is powerless to do anything for herself, including feeding herself. Her section 3 lets her get the treatment she needs to give her the result she wants but is powerless to achieve without the intervention of other people.

Have they said they want to section you then?

Psychiatrists are qualified doctors who specialise in treating mental illness usually at the more serious end of the illness. I have worked for a mental health trust and found mostly psychiatrists are empathetic, professional and wanting the best outcome for people. There are a few like in many professions who are unprofessional. Psychiatry unfortunately is not easy as the patients are usually seriously ill, hallucinating and delusional and paranoid. Do you think I'm all seriousness you are quite ill at the moment OP?

Psychiatry keeps my teen son functioning and not spiralling into a self destruct cycle.

OP, based on your posting, I think you need to call someone. You're not thinking at all rationally.

If you're sectioned OP it will be because you are considered a danger to yourself or to others.

And the most inappropriate smilie award goes to Tatiana.

My Mum is a psychotherapist and whilst she's hugely intelligent and knows a great deal about her subject area, she can also be an emotional mess at times and her relationship history reads like something from the Tudors.

Psychiatrists and mental health support workers aren't duty bound to lead perfect lives without having any flaws. It's an impossible request because life is a continuum of breakups and changes and developments. It doesn't prevent them being terrific at what they do. My Mum is fairly well-known and highly sought after in her field. Her personal history doesn't lessen her understanding of the way people work and the support she can offer.

I don't speak to her about her work often because it has to be private but know that she's treated -and helped- some incredibly unwell people.

You don't sound well. I think you need to accept any and all offers of help.

Psychiatrists mainly just want to get people medicated. I have mixed feelings. Can be useful but proper psychotherapy or other sorts of talking therapy are often more helpful

The thread was (confusingly) hidden overnight and then reinstated this morning. OP might well be under the impression it was deleted hence not coming back.

It sounds as though you are feeling bullied for behaviours you see as normal. Sometimes someone else can see our lives more clearly than we can, because they have more perspective.

Usually, people are trying to help you even if it doesn't feel that way.

Bloody hell tatiana. That smilie is really inappropriate.

If you're still reading I hope you're ok. I do think that psychiatry does help a lot of people but unfortunately others do slip through the net, those who do not fit tidily into a 'box' for example addictions with serious mental illness or working age dementia.