what use is psychiatry, since it always ruins people's lives?

[namitababe]

is it wrong to hate psychiatry, since it's an evil science, and they are all bullies at heart?

psychiatry is evil... it's pathetic and false. it's pretty much just subjective thinking, and little else. psychiatry is also about bullying, harshness, and not comprehending modern society.

so i ask, what use is it?

is it wrong to look at porn?

is it wrong to drink booze? is it wrong not to use Standard English? I technically haven't by not capitalising my sentences, will those "people" come and section me? are tattoos wrong and an illness?
is it wrong to be gay? will people be sectioned for being gay? do people who look smart "deserve to be bullied"?? Is it wrong to use slang? I have some jamaican friends, so is saying "rassclaat" a mental illness now? if so, then section millions of Jamaicans everywhere.....

So i despise this practice, and it should be banned, forever. Is hating religion and not going to church an illness too?
or having some bigoted thoughts on other groups? were those white nationalists in the USA lately mentally ill?

but that's fine....if they want to section me for NORMAL shit, then fine. in my country, the UK, this is what most of them believe, and they're all fucking bullies, since i doubt they say that to everybody. i doubt they have the time to section up millions of people, since this is how we behave.

The smilie is the least concerning thing on the thread.

Tatiana is right. Sometimes sectioning is necessary, and if so, it will be for the OP's own safety.

Hi OP,

We just wanted to flag our Mental Health webguide which might have some helpful links and sources of support. We're also going to move this thread over to our mental health topic, which we think might be the best place for it.

Support from fellow Mumsnetters is wonderful - but we'd always recommend seeking out RL help, too.

Sometimes sectioning is necessary, and if so, it will be for the OP's own safety.

Well of course.

But that doesn't necessitate smilies

Nor does it invalidate all critiques of psychiatric practise. The timing might seem odd but OP is obviously distressed or in crisis.

I'm not sure dismissive blanket answers or patronising an intelligent woman with MH problems helps TBH, always providing medical help in a crisis takes priority.

There is a suggestion that a large percentage of people who go into psychiatry/psychiatric care either have mental health issues themselves, or have family members with mental health issues. Not all, of course, but a large percentage. One psych I used to know suggested that as many as 2/3 of them fit into this category. But he's only one psych, and I doubt anyone has ever actually counted.

OP - I hope you're getting some RL help from somewhere because your post is rather wild and somewhat incoherent, suggesting that you do need help.

Thumbwitches that's just something that people repeat and so it is taken as fact. I work in mental health and would say that actually you have to be emotionally robust for the most part although of course we have times in our lives where things are difficult as any other person does. I would say some personal knowledge of emotional problems make you a better therapist than someone who has largely glided through life completely unscathed.

Hopefully the op comes back to explain what is going on.

Psychiatry has been a literal lifesaver for 4 members of my immediate family.

I do think that people who say "rassclaat" because their friends do, might have a problem with identity and belonging - but not extreme enough for psychiatric intervention. I'd be interested to explore a need to fit in, a need to fit someone else's culture.

No psychiatrist I know (and I only know 2, plus several clinical psychologists) would give a rat's arse about mainstream shit like tattoos or being gay or an atheist - only in so far as it was an issue for the individual.

I agree with some of your sentiment OP. Psychology I have huge respect for. Psychiatry... not so much. Still necessary sometimes though

But you don't sound incredibly rational currently.

People always say "seek help" but sometimes that's the last thing you want when you're unwell... because everything makes sense to you and it's the rest of the world gone mad. I've learned the hard way... if anybody talks about sectioning you - go in as a voluntary admission!!! You will leave far sooner and have more input into your care.

Once people seem less mad - exploring thoughts in talking therapies can be incredibly useful and give you insight that perhaps medication won't

But medication does dramatically speed things up often that sometimes it's worth trying. Especially if you're likely to be admitted. They're going to force you anyhow with a section. Go voluntary and you can keep control of what and how much you find beneficial

It's not for you to determine how other people should post SerfTerf

I can't speak for the other poster, but medical help in a crisis seemed to be her point. Trying to debate psychiatry with someone in mental distress, is very much beside the point.

OP, if you're still reading - you will only be sectioned if absolutely necessary - if your mental needs urgent assessment and treatment; if it's at risk of deterioration without urgent treatment; or, as a pp said, if you're a danger to yourself.

Contact your GP or your local mental health crisis team if you're worried.

Oh do go away Ninon. We're all quite at liberty to point out when someone's being unhelpful or inappropriate.

Quite

I don't think you are being particularly helpful, nor do I think a mental health thread is an appropriate place for a tantrum.

But I will not comment further.

Good luck OP.

What the fuck are you on about?

if they want to section me for NORMAL shit, then fine.

My lovely they don't. They want to section you because you need help and need to be kept safe.

yrs normal behaviours that many engage in. it's a shame that only guys with cute smiles do them. I think you should just admit it

im only upset and frankly amused that stuff others do I get called up on.

I doesn't make sense but then it's fine for pretty people to never get called out on this. bit because I'm not a pretty girl like her I guess I have to accept talking publicly about sex is an illness.

namita you started this thread last August, what’s prompted you to return to it today?

Psychiatry has its faults but it isn’t evil - that’s very black/white thinking. And sometimes what can be usual behaviour for one person, for another person in another context can be pathological.

I’m not sure continuing this thread is going to be massively helpful to you right now - can you talk to your CPN or crisis team about your concerns that your behaviours are being labelled as ‘illness’ when you don’t think they are?

I think probably @namitababe you're behaviour might be fine in the right context but you're probably being called up on it as you're not using it within an appropriate context.

It's fine to be hypersexual... but if you're expecting others to cope with that publicly, they wont. That girl is speaking on a YouTube channel and people can take her or leave her, there's nothing uncomfortable or offensive about switching her off.

You lose your inhibitions with some forms of mental illness at times, so what's appropriate to you isn't necessarily what others are comfortable with publicly. It's nothing to do with how pretty you are and everything to do with people spotting behaviour that makes them uncomfortable and feel like they'd be exploiting you to encourage in that setting. They're actually trying to protect you rather than reject you for it.

it's all about looks. it's pretty evident a s you're only lying

there are many people in tgecworks who behave as the girl does and they are not sectioned. but no I'm a tall guy who has no voice and a pussy so I get called out lol.