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ive done it now

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suebrush · 16/11/2013 19:23

Had a really bad morning last week felt suisidal so hubby called ambulance when got there completley freaked because they sent safeguarding forms off to social services how could i do this to my perfect children feel so ashamed i wish id never gone

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HoopHopes · 18/11/2013 21:30

Perhaps if you are struggling when home you can ring your gp for an appointment that day or if out of hours phone for an out of hours gp appointment? They can access medication support and short term mental health crisis support for you if needed, which might be helpful for you, rather than the stress of A and E. if you need urgent medical attention for life saving treatment then obviously A and E is where you need to go.

Try and focus on your recovery, be gentle on yourself and get back into good routines?

fluffydressinggown · 18/11/2013 21:41

It wasn't visiting A&E that made you feel bad, it is your anxiety that is making things so hard. You were suicidal and you needed help so you went to the right place.

Are you on any medication for your anxiety? That could help.

Are you in a medical hospital at the moment or a mental hospital? Your discharge will be different depending on what type of hospital it is.

It is normal for services to assess all areas of your life when you are in a crisis, they want to see what your stressors are and what they can do to help. They have a duty of care towards you and your family. By asking for help and working with them and your family you are showing that you want to recover and that is a very positive thing.

suebrush · 19/11/2013 07:34

Mental hospital i think ive made it worse now because i mentioned to the nurse last night i was worried about social services now i think they are going to get in touch

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HoopHopes · 19/11/2013 11:40

If you have dependent children and are in a mental health hospital they will usually arrange a social care assessment anyway. Regardless of whether you had an ambulance or A and E trip. Mental health hospitals try and help people recover and as they do not admit people quickly then they want to give people the extra support at home to prevent re-admissions, or people really hurting themselves. Anyone who self harms or overdoses as you did will usually get referred to Social Care. It is Social Care who have budgets for things like support workers, support groups, ensuring the whole family is supported. As it does affect children having parents in hospital, so try not to look on it as a negative but as another form of support.

You asked for support - you went to A and E. You are telling the services you need help. It is just that it does not all come from one NHS budget, but from a range of budgets, which involves things like CAF's, SC referral, Mental Health medication and hospital etc etc.

fluffydressinggown · 19/11/2013 12:10

Are you in hospital on a section?

If you are they legally have to do a social care assessment.

suebrush · 19/11/2013 12:24

No informal

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fluffydressinggown · 19/11/2013 12:54

Oh good :) Informal is better.

I think you need to speak to your key nurse about your worries about this, they should be able to offer some reassurance and help you to develop skills to manage your anxiety around this.

dhisaconspiracytheorist · 19/11/2013 13:08

I was on a section when dd2 was little, I don't know exactly what happened but nursery took dd2 full time (she was going mornings) so dh could go to work. Take all the help you are offered, take time to process what happened and hope you feel better soon.

suebrush · 19/11/2013 15:37

I dont want social services involved at all im only here cause some stupid mom told me a rumour about a teacher and i couldnt get over it i could kill her for telling me

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suebrush · 19/11/2013 16:33

Would it be automatic or something said in the ambulance i wish id called the emergency team instead

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HoopHopes · 19/11/2013 17:13

Like others said take all the help you get offered. They would not keep you in hospital if they did not think you needed help (I was only in once for 5 days after a major issue etc).

Why do you not want social care team involved? Can you think about this and then work through the anxiety with it?

Anyone who goes to A+E with self harm (an OD however small is an OD as you choose to go to A+E with it) will have Social Care contacted (unless each county has different policies) - what SC do with that information is up to Social Care teams. So it is nothing you have said in hospital or done in hospital that is the issue, it is you went to SC in an ambulance with self harm and then informal in a MH hospital.

All the assessment is a check that you have the support you need to prevent further situations like this occurring. And to ensure the whole family is ok. Thinks like childcare funding can be arranged, family counselling if your children are old enough to be affected by you being in hospital etc.

suebrush · 19/11/2013 17:23

I know i wouldnt of been like this if it wasnt for that rumour

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HoopHopes · 19/11/2013 17:59

It is probably your extreme reaction that is the issue. Most people do not need an ambulance or visits to a and e due to what people say. The hospital may want you to realise your reaction is not normal and ensure that you will not react in a dangerous way to other life stresses.

We will come across all sorts of people and the skill is learning rational and safe ways to react.

fluffydressinggown · 19/11/2013 18:03

I mean this as nicely as possible. It is not the nurses or doctors in A&E, it is not the woman who started a rumour, it is not the ambulance etc making you worried. You are worried because you are unwell with anxiety. I think focusing on why you feel so anxious and worried would be helpful. At the moment you seem to be looking at external issues, but in reality you need to look inside yourself to help yourself to move forward so you can be less anxious and begin to enjoy life again.

Use your time in hospital to work on this, it is a safe place you can explore some of your issues with the nurses that work there.

Pancakeflipper · 19/11/2013 18:04

You did a thread about it didn't you ? If you did I remember it.
Please focus on you and getting better.

SS won't come along and ruin your life. They really won't. They will help your family and you.

I hope the hospital are looking after you.

suebrush · 19/11/2013 18:14

I feel like its gone too far now they are involved it was the last thing i needed i was great in the summer

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fluffydressinggown · 19/11/2013 18:37

But you are in hospital now so things are obviously not going well. Please use this time as an opportunity to look into why you are reacting so strongly to things, looking for answers in other people, or looking back at the past summer won't help you move forward now.

If you are unwell enough to be in hospital then there are things that happen and that involves support and assessment from social services. They want to make it easy for you to go home and recover. The reality is that whether you like it or not as an inpatient they will be looking at all aspects of your life, you need to focus on accepting this and developing strategies to manage your feelings about it.

I am not trying to be harsh. I have tried to kill myself and spent time in a psych unit this year myself. I understand how it feels to suddenly have to be open about really personal things with loads of strangers. It is incredibly hard and you should feel proud that you are able to discuss this with your MH team. You need to address your anxiety and ruminating thoughts, otherwise you will always be looking for external reasons to explain your reactions which in reality are like they are because you are unwell.

suebrush · 19/11/2013 20:38

I was just using the office phone in my room and someone came in and took it off me do you think they were listening in really paranoid

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Pancakeflipper · 19/11/2013 20:59

I doubt it. Perhaps they needed to make a call regarding work, perhaps you were on it too long? You don't know.

Please be honest with the staff and all those there to help you. They want to help you and your family. Not pull it apart because that's no benefit to anyone.

  • big wave to fluffydressingown - lovely to see you again. You sound well, hope you are.
dhisaconspiracytheorist · 19/11/2013 21:30

Unlikely to be listening, more likely just needed phone. Don't be hard on yourself. Try to sleep - milky drink, bath, whatever helps you. Put yourself first for a few days and take things slowly.

HoopHopes · 19/11/2013 21:57

Agree, if an office phone they would be bound to need it - especially if the only line in for all calls.

Have you got a discharge date and plan for going home to look forward to?

suebrush · 19/11/2013 21:58

Just had a chat to nurse said i had private health cover should of done it wouldnt be here now

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dhisaconspiracytheorist · 20/11/2013 08:46

Morning suebrush, how are you today?

suebrush · 20/11/2013 09:52

What will happen when i get home

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bongobongo · 20/11/2013 09:59

I was in similar situation like you suebrush. Social services talked with my dh while I was in hospital. When I was discharged I got only one phone call asking how I am. That's it. They closed the case.