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Mental health

Support Thread for anxiety .

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RockingAroundTheBloodyXmasTree · 18/12/2012 17:24

This will probably on have me post on here, but another kind mn'er advised me to start a thread for people who are worried about the supposed doomsday on the 21/12/12.

I, myself am worried. I suffer from anxiety anyway, and this is just another problem in the long list!

I am worried because i think i won't be able to protect my kids.
I worry because i wonder if the government are covering it up.
I worry incase Nasa are wrong and we are hit by a rouge asteroid no one knows about.

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confusteling · 18/12/2012 21:05

peeks head round the door

Mind if I join?

I'm swinging from not worried to very worried indeed... Think the main thing will be being too scared to go to bed on Thursday night.

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ladythatlunches · 18/12/2012 21:25

My twins (11 months) are doing the same poor things, this cough is never ending!

Hi confusteling :)

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confusteling · 18/12/2012 21:59

Hi lady

The daft thing is I was anxious to start with, then I was supposed to be getting wisdom tooth surgery today and that took over.

Now I'm back to this, because the op was cancelled.

I've got a prescription for 2mg diazepam - that was for this operation - and am seriously considering phoning GP and asking if I can take it on Thurs/Fri instead. I am worried about it all, thinking about how upset I'm going to be going to bed on Thursday if that's the end of everything, it's scary. I'm so scared something will happen and I'll never see my mum again.

I'm only 21, haven't even had sex or graduated uni or anything yet :(

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ladythatlunches · 18/12/2012 22:04

Oh :( you sound so scared.

Well please don't worry about going to sleep I'm
Not sure if this will help or make you worse but the supposed "doom" time
Is actually in the day!!

Op are scarey anyway, I would freak out myself , I think that is very very normal, and your fears are rational to you, because everyone has fears!

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D0oinMeCleanin · 18/12/2012 22:15

Honestly nothing is going to happen on Friday. There is lots and lots of scientifically based evidence that says nothing will happen and no evidence that it will. There are theories made up on the internet by either very ill or very silly people. That is all.

The Mayans themselves have said that they did not predict the end of the world. Nostradamus wrote in riddles that could mean anything plus his predictions stretch way, way beyond 2012 and our lifetimes and that of our children's.

Friday is winter solstice and and the end of the Mayans long calendar, that is all.

I know that you know all of this anyway, but just keep repeating it to yourselves Grin

And both of you get to the GP, quick smart or I will hunt you both down and drag you there myself Wink

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ladythatlunches · 18/12/2012 22:28

Well said :)

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RockingAroundTheBloodyXmasTree · 18/12/2012 22:40

hi confustling! (waves) i will probably be up thursday night so will be here for hand holding Xmas Sad
i think we should come here saturday if nothing happens and have a big un mumsnetty hugs and congratulate ourselves on getting through it.
what do u all say?!

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MrsJREwing · 19/12/2012 01:01

Has your GP rules out physical causes? Too many people are too quick to diagnose MH issues as a first port of call. For example fatigue, pounding heart anxiety and syncope are PoTS symptoms.

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RockingAroundTheBloodyXmasTree · 19/12/2012 07:00

whats PoTs?

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ladythatlunches · 19/12/2012 08:53

I know someone that has POTS. I'm not really sure what it is, I think it is a deficiency in something?

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MadSleighLady · 19/12/2012 08:58

confusteling Have you got any real life support there? Are you back home with parents at the moment? If so and you trust them to be supportive, I would tell them about your worries.

I just don't like to think of people worrying away in the same room as their loved ones when the latter have absolutely no idea what's going on, and can't help. Rocking's DH is being very supportive and finding lots of info for her - even if it isn't helping her directly, at least someone knows she's suffering and can get help eg take her to the GP quickly if that is needed.

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MrsJREwing · 19/12/2012 09:06

Google it OP, to do with racing heart the T is tachardia ?sp. Some treatment is salt, it isn't a deficency it is an autosomething think antonomic disorder of the body due to phydical symptoms it appears you have anxiety.

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Isabeller · 19/12/2012 09:32

Just sending (((hugs))) xx

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D0oinMeCleanin · 19/12/2012 11:08

So I caved and phoned my mum for her ideas on this whole end of the world thingy, since she's read up on Mayan prophecies etc. She finds the whole thing fascinating and did at one point think there was something in this whole 2012 thing.

Basically the Mayans were an ancient race of mesoamericans and very gifted astrologers. They have a few calenders, that are all linked to each other and all follow important astrological and historical events. This whole thing is about their long count calender, when the long count calender ends the 13th Ba'k'tun (I'm not sure about this spelling it is how she texted me it so it might not be Googlable) will end.

People are having a big fuss because it was originally believed that Mayans counted in cycles of 13 and that once the 13th Ba'k'tun ends, that is it. Their cycle is over. The Mayanists (people who study the Mayan culture and calender) believe the cycle simply starts again however recent findings have turned up Mayan calculations and dates that go right past the 17th Ba'k'tun, which is well past our life time and that of our children. A lot of Mayanists believe that the ancient Mayan calculations and calenders actually count well past the life of the sun itself, so we don't need to worry about it (again this theory is backed up by ancient drawings, books and artifacts)

Their calenders are widely believed (and this belief is backed up by findings of ancient drawings and artifacts) to have religious significance. The Mayans believed that humanity was created by five Gods, who wanted to create a race of people in the image of themselves. We, as we are today, are their 13th attempt. Each Ba'k'tun signifies the 'end' of one era of civilisation and the start of another (don't panic at that bit, we are not going to die), at the end of the 13th Ba'k'tun i.e. Friday, a new era will begin. This will be an era of spiritual awareness and awakening. In other words the Mayans think that we will become closer to God-like beings - which seems like a good thing to me, I wouldn't mind being more Goddess like Grin

Although if you want to believe that you will enter a new Godlike state on Friday, which would be awesome, but sadly implausible, then you should also believe that the five gods once made us out of wood, and although we walked and talked we had no soul, which is why they continued 'improving' us, until we reached our current state (they also tried making us out of clay and mud and things but that wasn't successful either) Evidence of evolution disproves the theory that we were once made of wood and clay.

Their calenders never foretold a chaotic disaster or end of days. Simply an and end of one era and the start of another, similar to our millennium but with a religious background. The Mayan people never predicted planet X or whatever, that was made up by internet trolls, who had no other way to explain what the end of the 13th Ba'k'tun meant, religion isn't as scary to most people as super disasters are, because they are less feasible.

I don't know if any of that will help people who are worried about it, but I hope it will.

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confusteling · 19/12/2012 16:39

D0oin and Madsleigh - GP knows Xmas Grin, told her last week and she grinned and then shoved me and said "That's not going to happen, right, you hear me?!" .. (I know her very well, talk normally once a week so not too strange!!) .. I'm on anti-anxiety medication and have been for a couple of years now..

My mum knows I'm worried too, as do a couple of close friends - one good friend explained it's frightening me so much, got me to analyse it all.

Pyschologist knows as well and said to use the techniques he has taught me - e.g. understanding the fear, where it comes from, what the evidence is for my fear and whether then it is worth worrying over.

I want to phone my GP today to ask her for help but I think phoning and saying "I'm feeling anxious because I'm what iffing over a Mayan Apocalypse" , I think she'd be a bit unimpressed and I've never phoned specifically because I'm scared of something. I'd phone tommorow but she isn't on duty tommorow. And she sent me a letter saying to have a lovely Christmas/New year, I don't want to phone if she isn't expecting me to. I spoke to her twice last week as it is.. I think the anxiety there is more knowing she will take time off at some point in the next two weeks and I might not be able to talk to her if I needed to. That insecurity is worrying.

D0oin what your mum has said is really helpful, thank you. I am seriously considering making myself a word document of evidence that this whole thing isn't what I think it is.. if that makes sense!

Hugs back to everyone xxx

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EauRougelyNight · 19/12/2012 16:47

How's everyone feeling today?

confusteling, you don't even have to mention the doomsday thing unless you want to- you can just tell your GP your physical symptoms, that you feel stressed and have had trouble sleeping etc. Is there still time to phone her? I bet she would want you to if she knew how you were feeling :)

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confusteling · 19/12/2012 17:07

Eau

I'm too scared to ring though incase she's angry at me for phoning (although she's promised me dozens of times she would never be angry at me). I've got a prescription for diazepam and I'm wondering if I can cash that in tommorow and use it on Friday, but I'm not sure if I should ask. Surgery closes at 6 so just under an hour. She doesn't work Thursdays..

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D0oinMeCleanin · 19/12/2012 17:08

Phone her

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RockingAroundTheBloodyXmasTree · 19/12/2012 17:31

Im not having a good day.
The gp appointment i had i had to cancel because the school phoned my dd1 had cut her eye falling onto the corner of the bench so had to go to local a and e. Cue panic attack for 10 mins before i could collect her.
Then my car, which is relativity new (5 months) conked out twice. was stranded at nursery for 1.5 hours.

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EauRougelyNight · 19/12/2012 17:35

Phone her! She won't get angry at you, it's her job to look after her patients! Just do it, I'm virtually holding your hand as you dial :)

Oh Rocking, sorry to hear about your shit day :( Tomorrow will be better! How's your DD's eye? Hope she's OK.

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confusteling · 19/12/2012 17:52

Phoned and spoke to her; asked about diazepam. She's not particularly chuffed about using it for a way of coping with things and said it's a highly addictive drug. She did say I can use it but only a maximum of 4mg, preferably 2mg, and only if I feel things are outwith my control. Which has in all honesty happened only a handful of times since I was DX with anxiety 2008. She was lovely though and told me not to apologise for crying down the phone, wanted to know what was upsetting me but I cou;dn't tell her for fear she'd just burst out laughing. She said she's at work on Friday so there's an option I suppose if I feel particularly terrified. She's then off for two weeks, but am seeing pyschology on the 28th and have got the option of phoning NHS 24 to speak to a CPN as well.

Oh Rocking, how's your DD? If it's any consolation my day has been strange, had to take my mum to A&E as she has a seizure disorder and its been a while since having to do that, so that wasn't fun. Lots of hugs to you.

I'm disappointed with myself now for getting so upset when that's not something I have done in a while, last week when I phoned GP it was all good news. But I suppose I am allowed to go up and down every so often..

I think I always feel worst at Christmas. I don't know if others do. I see others going to parties, big family days and it hits home that I have none of that really. But I have my mum, my sister, a warm house and my three cats, and I guess that's the most important things.

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EauRougelyNight · 19/12/2012 18:10

Well done for calling! That's great that she was sympathetic. She's right about diazepam, it is highly addictive. I have it for flying, it's great for taking the edge off the panic. I forget what dosage I had, I was taking just half a pill because I still wanted to be with it enough to look after the DDs.

Don't beat yourself up for having a bad day. I was told to count the good days and see how many there are in a row. It's easy to forget the good days and just remember the bad.

Christmas is a stressy time for everyone, even those with parties and big families. Don't let them fool you! A warm cozy day with your mum, sister and cats sounds lovely and peaceful :)

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RockingAroundTheBloodyXmasTree · 19/12/2012 18:25

Thanks confustling and Eau
She has one hell of a shiner and was very brave when the nurse glued it up.
Some little shit pushed her and she cut her eye (right near her eyelashes) quite deep.
She was very lucky she didnt lose her eye. [panic panic panic breathe breathe]

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confusteling · 19/12/2012 21:21

Oh good grief, hopefully you and the school will know who it is? That's terrible that could happen at school. And eye injuries are really horrible as well, I remember just getting a scratch from the cat right in the corner of my eye years ago as a child and that was nasty. Big hugs to you and DD - bet you'll be making a fuss of her tonight?

That's true about remembering the bad and forgetting the good, I do that a lot. I need to focus on the fact that last week there were positives and that everyone is allowed to feel upset or frightened. To try and boost my self esteem a couple of weeks ago I wrote out affirmations and things I shouldn't beat myself up for doing, one of them was trying to accept that I am allowed to be upset and irrational at times because everyone is.

Not really allowed to discuss it any further in real life because sister has also mentioned it (ASD) and she is upset. Apparently this is in some way my fault - despite sister repeatedly saying it is her college friends who have upset her, and something to do with the film 2012.

I need to follow those affirmations more because currently I am sitting telling myself how stupid I am. That's a bit unconducive to building my self esteem.

GP said if I feel myself losing control to rein it in by going out for a walk and trying distraction techniques and only if that doesn't work I can try medication..

So for distraction I have made myself an appt to get my hair done tommorow. I haven't had a hair cut in nearly a year (not that my hair's messy, it's just long, thick and there's a bit that's dry from over straightening for goodness knows how many years now!)

And I am getting closer to not believing this Mayan stuff because, their central beliefs do not fit with anything scientific that I've been taught, including evolution, genetics, the Big Bang etc .. It seems a bit silly, almost, to happily say I believe in something that fits with none of that and with, well, none of Christianity either.. Like saying I believe in Allah and worry about his judgements but follow Christianity I suppose?

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RockingAroundTheBloodyXmasTree · 19/12/2012 21:27

The film 2012 is horrific. i watched it for the 1st time a few weeks ago.
I blame this for my angst.

I just said to another mn'er deep down i think we know this mayan thing is shit, but its the losing control of the situation that make me panic and worry as i cant do anything to protect the people i love and care about.

None of it makes any sense you are right, but its the anxiety that takes over and we cant control that either.

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