Blood sugar diet and fast800 thread 20

[thenewaveragebear1983]

Thread 20, can you believe it?

@Kimlek sounds lovely!

I'm a few lbs up today, expected but annoying as I didn't really eat that much and it's never good for morale to go into the weekend feeling like I'm on the back foot. Anyway. It is what it is.

Glorious summery morning for bootcamp, then will spend the morning prepping salads for our bbq today. I've made a new potato salad (not bsd) and today I'm making a fully compatible rainbow salad and a Waldorf coleslaw so there should be plenty to eat and still stay on plan. I'm doing a melon and pineapple thing with mint and lime which (although tropical) is still better than my Black Forest trifle!

It's so nice to be seeing family again, doing 'normal' things!
Have a great weekend everyone!

Drank all the wine last night, and then fell into the crisps and toast and a flapjack when I got in. Shame as I had had a good day including hiit and a bike ride.

However, only 1.5lb up and given I ate the crap at 1am I am ok with that. I have noticed that one bingy moment shakes things up a bit, makes me able to stay on track more for the rest of the week.

Off to the seaside to see family today and so excited! Lunch will be salady bit. Dinner lentil curry with roasted aubergine. Might swim in the sea.
All the exercise chat is very inspirational. Need to make more of an effort!

Tried to keep on plan this week even though I've been on a mini holiday . Ate out a couple of times but stuck with a naked burger and salad at a pub and then an amazing chicken parmigiana at the Italian with no potatoes just salad ( succumbed to a couple of glasses of wine there ) I blamed my partner for ordering a bottle . I felt cross with myself for doing it but it was a thoroughly enjoyable sociable evening with my teenage boys who are usually typically unsociable so drawing a line under it and moving on . A busy weekend ahead with a family birthday celebration . The host messaged me to ask how many sandwiches she she should cater for and I said I'd bring my own chicken and salad so I've dodged a carb fest there thankfully. I know I've not been 100 percent on plan but I'm feeling much more positive going into the weekend and next week especially now we have the pools/gym reopening to look forward to in a couple of weeks.

another pound off this morning. 9lbs in 11 days Going to try and stay super strict and hoping with all fingers crossed that I can hit stone in 2 weeks! Slightly ambitious I know but good to have a goal!

If I was magically to lose at same rate and get somewhere near that by Wednesday... would the next 2 weeks be around the same or does it tend to slow down?

I have stuck to the diet very closely, and the rate of loss has been pretty steady since week 2 (currently in week 10). No obvious flattening of the curve so far apart from one unexplained 3-day rebound. That said, I weigh myself daily and I do have up days and flat days, as well as down days. It works because there are more down days!

I’m 64.15kg today, a bit disappointing but hoping I’ll make it to 63s tomorrow!

Oh god, well my day didn't exactly go to plan but it's been really lovely and I'll just get back on it tomorrow.

We are going out for the entire day tomorrow. Will try to make good choices!

Same here at @thenewaveragebear1983. Fish and chips may have been consumed! I am thinking that I am more at a 2:5 pattern which isnt too bad.
Let's hope we are all on plan today!

@Bestbees oh god I started so strong as well I have weighed myself, I'm not sharing on here but let's just say it's bad. But also technically impossible that I could have eaten that many calories so it must've a combination of water retention, sugar and just simply the sheer weight of food (which makes me feel better). I had a terrible night as well due to to much gin.

Beautiful sunny day here though, so after a coffee and an ibuprofen I am going to head out for a nice slow jog and will drink plenty of water. I'm going to fast as long as possible and then we have lots of bbq stuff leftover so probably meat/salad for dinner (but no gin!) I am fully aware that it's what I do today that causes the damage so it's time to get my head screwed back on!

HI all - sorry for disappearing but I've been really, really ill. Thought I might have to be hospitalised at one point but then turned a corner and now feel much much better.

Haven't caught up on the thread yet so I hope you're all doing ok!

I have (potentially stupidly) booked a holiday for in 2.5 weeks so now the pressure is on to lose at least 10lbs before I go. I KNOW I can do it, the question is WILL I do it. I've been so bloody lax lately.

The good thing is that I'm going to basically lock us down until we go because I do not want to miss this holiday because we got Covid, so that will help control some of the junk, and I'll up walking & exercise too.

I haven't been on a proper holiday in years and I do not want to be hating all the photos of DD and I. Will be menu planning today and hopefully bloody sticking with it!

Hello. I'd like to join please. A quick question- how do people adapt to family meals? My dd is 9 and half the time she's at her dads but when she's with me it's just the 2 of us and we always eat together and the same meal. I don't really want to cook 2 dinners or introduce her to the concept of dieting.

Actually 2 questions. Are there any super easy breakfasts? Currently I have a bowl of cereal or a slice of toast which are obviously no no. It on work days I don't have time to cook.

Thanks

Hi @Borris

I also have a pre teen DD and I am very worried about projecting a negative relationship with food and body image. So I never comment on my weight or anyone else’s weight in front of her [in fact, I never comment on anyone’s weight ever full stop, it’s none of my ducking business whether someone has gained 100lb or lost 40, and society’s obsession with weight is one of my MAJOR rants at the world, and is probably up there with junk food companies at causing the obesity crisis][and breathe].

Having said that, i also think it’s important to teach kids the importance of food as fuel, because while I would never fat shame anyone, i do believe that it’s not good for you to be seriously overweight in the long term, as it is almost as damaging as smoking. So we talk about the nutritional components of food, and what we need and why, and how sugar cereals taste great but they don’t give us what we need, make us crave them, and companies try to get us addicted to them etc. No food is good or bad- just is it what we need.

So when I eat with DD I eat a modified version of what she’s having - ie more veg instead of carbs but the same protein. And I’m open about saying that because of my age and the amount of exercise I do (compared to their DF), I don’t need any more carbs than I get in the veg.

I think scales in the house are ok too, I just rarely let them see me use them. And I talk about trying to gain muscle and get fitter if any questions come up (which they rarely do)

All my diet books are on my kindle only. I wish the publishers would ban the words “diet” and “lose weight” from the covers!

I have no idea if I’m going about things the right way, and it worried me enormously.

Have a glass of water and start again everyone who has slipped up this weekend. (Myself included- too much roast lamb and a tiny portion of ice cream led to a 600g gain )

Oh, re breakfast- quark yoghurt with 20g of nuts and seeds? That would give you about 200 calls and 20 G protein.

Weight static but that’s ok as have enjoyed a couple glasses of wine etc.
@borris Hello! I’ve 3 pre & teen DDs & we talk about healthy foods. We talk about excess sugar. We don’t really talk about weight. We eat the same foods but they & DH will have rice/pots/pasta/bread/couscous with theirs. But it won’t be the basis of their meal, usually. Occasionally my youngest will have a bowl of pasta pesto and I certainly wouldn’t comment on that other than encourage her to throw in some veg. I do comment when they buy a ton of moams or haribos 🙄

I have scales. I use them daily. Whilst they are not hidden they don’t use them... only when they want to check how much they’ve packed in a suitcase.... those were the days!

Hi @Borris, I adapt virtually all meals to family with the use of eg. Baked potato, wedges, rice or similar. We eat the same food 5 meals a week and they have their freezer type things the other 2, usually if we are having something like salmon or something too spicy that they won't eat. I've never really understood the 'not wanting children to see me dieting', I just say I don't like pasta or whatever and they sometimes try my celeriac or cauli rice. I don't think they think I'm on a diet as such just that I eat healthily and try not to eat sweets. With regards to breakfast, a lot of us don't eat at traditional breakfast time, as it reduces the 'fasting window' but if I do then it will be either egg/avocado/cheese/ham type food, a bit like a continental with coffee. I find if I eat yogurt too early on an empty stomach the lactose does weird things to me. If you can manage yog though, full fat Greek with a few nuts will keep you feeling full

I'm being very lazy today, just fell asleep listening to my hypno in my hammock and now watching a buzzard circling my house

Morning/Afternoon - Fell slightly off the wagon yesterday. DD1's 14th birthday, and had a family meal out. Our best laid plans fell through as the restaurant we thought was open (because their website said they were ) wasn't, so we ended up walking for ages trying to find somewhere that wasn't just take away. Ended up at a lovely Italian restaurant where I had a pizza and salad. The carbs and wine went right to my head .

Opted not for the gelato...

Weighed in this morning at 9st 10lbs, so am fairly pleased with this.

Off the menu plan for the week...

Thanks for the tips. My Dd likes salmon, chicken and fish based meals anyway, so I’ll try just doing rice or potatoes with hers and not mine. We do both like pesto pasta though ...

Can you save carbs from one day to the next or is that a no no?

Yoghurt sounds a good idea for breakfast until I can face skipping it.

I think the advice is really to cut out pasta, bread, spuds and white rice permanently. If you’re not trying to lose weight (ie are maintaining) the small portions of whole grain (bulgar wheat, quinoa, brown rice) are ok. It’s tough, and I’m still trying to get my head space into accepting that pesto pasta has to be a very very occasional meal (and preferably on the side of a plate of chicken and veg). But it’s not as tough as carrying around an extra 15kg every minute of every day. (Which I think is always a really good mental boost- pick up the amount of weight you’ve lost and imagine carrying that round 24hpurs a day)

Hi guys, I’m on day three now and managing okay. I need to reread the book re. fruit as I am eating an apple and I’m not 100% sure that’s allowed 🤦🏻‍♀️

I’ve just eaten a lunch of pepper and courgette sautéd with low cal spray oil with yeast flakes and sunflower seeds sprinkled over the top. It was very nice!

Sorry another question... is sugar free coke ok?

I wouldn’t go there with sugar free coke because I’ve read your body treats it like sugar regardless of the low calorie. I’d be interested to hear what others think though.

My question is about nut butters. Little bit of no sugar almond butter on an apple. I’m assuming that’s okay as long as it comes in within 800 cals across the day?

Also I’m feeling so, so tired. Did anyone get this in the early days? I’m dragging myself about. I have quit caffeine alongside the diet so I’m attributing the headaches to that, not sure about the fatigue though 🤔

@WhatWillSantaBring I like that. I read somewhere something along the lines of 'giving up sugar is hard. But so is spending every day of your life overweight. Choose your hard' and I really think that encapsulates what it's about really. This plan is about sacrificing stuff, and especially things we've been conditioned to see as treats, rewards, delicious...but the rewards are massive and, while you could say it's hard giving up carbs, I promise you it gets easier (and, dare I say it, becomes enjoyable in its Own right) being overweight never gets easier.

I hope I didn't sound like an arse when I posted earlier about kids seeing you dieting, I have reread my post and if I did then I'm sorry. I guess what I mean is I don't really try to stop my children seeing that I eat different food; if I had my way they would eat this diet too, but my dh won't let me. We are working towards a far healthier lifestyle in our house come September, and I am open with them that white flour, sugar and dough based products actually have no nutritional merit. I wish my parents had educated themselves and passed this info to me when I was younger, but people just didn't know this then.
I had an interesting conversation with a family member yesterday who expressed great concern that, despite being slim and very fit I 'deprive' myself of sugar and cake (and I actually didn't yesterday!), and I had to tactfully explain that if you can see that eating cake can have the potential to make you feel good, can you not see that eating really healthily can do that too? We need to move away from the mentality that controlling our portion sizes and eating 'clean' is somehow the abnormal behaviour. I explain to my kids that I don't eat much sugar because sugar doesn't make me feel good. (I don't think they even care/notice what I eat half the time anyway!!
Anyway I'm rambling, but hope I didn't come across in that way.

@justanotherneighinparadise The book says "berries, apples or pears are fine" but to avoid sweet tropical fruit. A small apple is my go-to "sweet" snack and I probably have 3-4 a week, normally late afternoon. It's only approx 70 calories, though it has around 15g of carbs, so if you're focusing on keeping carbs under 50g you might want to be careful.