Blood sugar diet thread 10

[thenewaveragebear1983]

New thread for the Blood Sugar dieters

Link to our old thread;

Blood sugar diet thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/fasting_diet/3143559-blood-sugar-diet-thread-9

That shake looks great bear, thank you! I was going to take some multi vitamins and I'm already on a gp prescribed vitD and Iron.

I just really can't fail this time and this diet has given me hope.

Thanks so much for the advice, very much appreciated

So how is everyone here doing?

Flaming from just reading that, these are the things I’d query-
The carbs amount is okay, but the majority of those carbs are sugars. Are they added sugars such as, well, sugar- or are they lactose (in milk), fructose etc. If you read the ingredients of the packaging it will tell you more detail probably. Or upload a picture of both the ingredient and the nutritional breakdown.

I think you need more fat - if you have three of these a day totalling 4.5g day plus a plate of vegetables, you will be literally climbing the walls with hunger.

I appreciate its really hard with your work situation, but I would definitely try to encorporate more ‘real food’ even if it’s grazing style- cut pieces of cheese, peanut butter, full fat dairy (Tesco do 100g pots of full fat Greek for example)

I’m closing the kitchen today on 1200, 49g carbs, 20k steps which included a 4.5k run this morning and a jolly to the farm with Ds!

As you can see, I went over on the cals despite my best intentions to be very good today. Had a delicious salad for lunch, and a turkey steak rolled up with a filling of mascarpone, sundried tomatoes, and wrapped in bacon- very calorific but very tasty!

I have resisted weighing in but I’m itching to get on the scales tomorrow as I definitely feel that I’ve had a good week.

Thanks Bear,

I was thinking that two but I didn't think I could graze. I read the menu plan at the back and it was 3 meals a day with snacks only if you must and are not satisfied on the 800cals from the 3 meals. I really like the shake you take. I'm going to get the ingredients and make it tomorrow (my day off) and see how it might keep in my cool bag.

Interesting though looking at your ingredients, I could really make my own shakes and have variety if I keep the sugars low and overall carbs per day below say 50-60g. Would that be right? I could avoid all the shop bought shakes and label reading.

If I did make my own shakes and my total didn't reach 800cals for the day I can eat a greek yogurt, handful of almonds etc outside of 'meal time'?

Ideally I'd love to use my days off to go all-food BSD meal prep using the recipes from the book but I'd be worried how many days they'd keep in the fridge. Chicken and salmon couldn't be more than a day could it?

Can you tell I never learned to cook and DH is the chef in our house!?

You're running Bear? That's awesome! I hope I'll get to that some day. Well done

Flamin i was just about to write the same as bear. I think you need more fat or you will be starving.

I use unsweetened almond milk because it has no carbs and is low cal. Skimmed milk is the worst for carbs. Blue milk has the least carbs but has the most calories due to all the lovely fat. Its a balance between keeping the calories low but not having too many carbs. Basically your body treats all carbs the same. If I eat too many carbs I get hungry.

If I was you I would eat boiled eggs, packs of smoked salmon, roast chicken, all with salad and maybe some feta cheese, olives. Nuts, greek yogurt, baby bel cheese. You won't get large portions for 800cals but it will be more satisfying than when protein 3X a day.

Flamin yes, you can in theory with the shakes although I don’t know how well they would keep- avocado particularly would go brown very quickly. But yes, you could get your balance of fat/ protein/ bit of fruit or veg etc in this way.,

In terms of grazing- you could make a few little boxes with 200 calories of ‘bits’ in? So olives, cherry toms, cheese, cooked chicken- things you don’t need to sit down with and eat with a fork, but can just open up and pick at. Aim for some protein, some fat, and few carbs in each box- but vary it around so one is cheese based, one is nuts etc.

And if you buy chicken/ salmon etc it will probably keep reasonably well for a couple of days. Or buy it, cook it, then freeze in individual portions and just take one out to defrost at a time. You can then eat one each day but the others won’t spoil?

Thanks so much to you both. I was really fretting when I put the book down and thought I wasn't going to be able to do it. I have been reading it every chance I get to try and finish and get started on the diet. I feel much better now and far more informed. So tomorrow is planning day and Saturday to start.
Thanks again

Flamin before I started this diet I used to take shakes to work for lunch. I would "meal prep" by chopping all the veg/fruit, line the blender cup with a freezer bag, fill the cup as if blending as normal, then pop the bag in the freezer. Repeat until all veg used up. It is so much quicker than faffing about chopping every day, and means your shake is nice and cold. Take it out of the freezer when you get up, get dressed, blend before you go out and it will have softened enough that you can reassemble in the cup.

I only just got in so have garlic and mustard prawns in the oven now to have with spinach. Weighed myself this morning before work because I couldn't resist and I am down about 7(!!!) lbs so far this week since my pre-diet weigh in on Sunday evening. I have a lot to lose, and my Sunday weigh in was after a weekend blow out (so probably not an accurate starting weight), but I am absolutely delighted!

Me and my youngest Ds quite often have ‘picnic’ lunch because he eats very few carbs (not because of this, at least not enforced, but I guess being with me every day for 2.5 years has rubbed off) so we have little platters of chorizo, olives, cheese, nuts and salad. We even bought special plates with little compartments just for our special picnics! So I would wholeheartedly support the grazing/tapas/ smorgasbord style lunch.

I do love a picnic type of lunch as do my dds.

I have reached a new low today. My 'd'h bought a bunch of peppermint Aeros (top 3 fave choc bar) and put them in the fridge so they got all snappy. He then scoffed one right in front of me so I gave him a huge sloppy snog just to get a taste. Tragic

Flamin I sometimes do a grazing sort of lunch with a mixed selection from the following: some almonds, a mini cheddar cheese, 40 gr of hummus in a little container, some sliced cucumber or courgette to dip into the hummus, hardboiled egg, some olives, some ham (naice ham even) or chorizo. Refrigeration is not crucial (at least not for one 12 hr shift), and a lot of them can be packed into little ziploc snack bags and reusable containers all at one time and you avoid doing any cooking.

And I always try to have a small amount of almonds and a mini cheddar in my bag in case I get hungry or get delayed on the way home from work/to dinner.

I also vastly prefer unsweetened almond milk to skimmed for the reasons belinda mentions above.

I would definitely not scrimp on the fat, because it holds flavour and taste and helps you feel full.

Morning all

Friday weigh in ....,10 (yes, 10) 13.8
So, I’m officially in the tens, only just, but in the tens! Hurrah! It also means I’ve lost just over 5lbs this week which I’m very pleased with.

Next challenge is to hold it all together over the weekend and not put it all back on!

Hello everyone! I read the book yesterday and I’m starting immediately. Problem is I’m out with friends tonight at a blooming Indian. Love curries!! But what on Earth can I order that’s going to be BSD friendly? I’m thinking tandoori chicken withno sauce/ no rice. But what else? Low cal Indian ideas please!!

Morning!

Dandelion I'll join you in the 7lb club! Half a stone in 11 days - I'm thrilled!

Bear Well done you! I find it really inspires me to read all your helpful posts and this is even better motivation. I'd love to be 10 stone something. Baby steps...

Welcome Snowglobes. I think that you're probably right about the tandoori chicken without rice, and far be it from me to discourage anyone, but maybe you should go out and enjoy yourself tonight and start tomorrow? I hope that doesn't sound "off" but 8 weeks is a long time and psychologically (armchair psychologist alert!) starting on a Saturday may be better than a Friday?

Just an idea. Good luck whenever you start. There are some lovely, helpful and knowledgeable posters here who really keep me going. to them.

Good morning all, welcome new folk, and excellent progress dandelion squid bear all! and once again, I want Oblomov to come cook for me, that lunch looks soo good.

So I've had a great morning. Stopped at the GP surgery for my annual asthma review, and it turns out that I have definitely lost 2.5 stone off April 2017 weight. Considering that I've lost 3.5 stone since January 2018, that means I put on a stone between April 2017 and Jan 2018. No wonder I felt extra shit at New Year's.

It turns out my home scales are off, by a substantial amount: with shoes at the drs I weighed 9 lb less than I did at home without shoes an hour earlier.

So, the good news is that I'm actually over half a stone closer to my goal than I thought! Miles to go still, but that's excellent.

I guess I'll try to reset my scales when I get home, and go back and subtract 9 lbs from all my check-ins in MFP. Not that I care if the number on the scales is exactly right, but it is gratifying to know the road is a bit shorter than I thought.

And the moral for all of us, I guess, is that scales are lying liars that lie, and we should be gauging progress by clothing fit and measurements and other indications, not just by the number on the scale.

(Oh, and not surprisingly given the weight loss, the asthma review was great - my peak flow reading is up from last year, and I haven't had to use the rescue inhaler since December. I am happy, asthma nurse is happy.)

OK, back to work - but I'm going to dance around the office a little first :)

Thanks everyone, and well done for some great losses. I think what this week proves to me is that: I need to keep under 1000 but 800 is too low for me if I’m running; I need to weigh and measure all my food before I eat it; even though I have been doing this forever, big losses are still possible if I actually stick to the plan; and I need to hide my bathroom scales as I am actually addicted to daily weighing and felt withdrawals when I didn’t weigh. So a fair amount of ‘no shit, Sherlock!’, but still!

Snow globes without a tiny shadow of a doubt I would be treating tonight as ‘the last supper’ and starting tomorrow. Kudos on the positive attitude- but I think we all had something of a ‘last night’ feed before starting (2 years ago before my first ever round I ate 6 cream eggs and my baby son’s entire Easter egg- not my proudest moment....)

Right, I’ve been running (v slow 10k) , I have no children til 4.30, it’s gloriously sunny- I am going to lay in my garden and read my book all afternoon

Is anyone else using my fitness pal to track calories? I keep getting a warning that my calories are too low (day 1 - 788, day 2 - 761) and the nutrition is set for 50% carbs. Do I just ignore or is there a way of setting it for the BSD?

Well done Bear - you've been tantalisingly close to that 10 stone something mark for a few weeks, great stuff!

Phyllis I am laughing at you snogging your DP to get a mint Aero vicariously
I've lost 1.4lbs so far this week. The physio has given me exercises to do each day which, hopefully, will help with my back problem and get me active again eventually.

Hi madness yeah that warning about 'you're probably not eating enough' is annoying but there's no way to bypass it. All that means is that the programme won't project future weight loss, only track what you've done so far. Oh, and show you that warning if you eat less than 1000 cals on a particular day.

To change the balance of your macronutrient targets (fat, protein, carbs etc), click on the 'My Home' heading, then click 'goals'. It will show the current setting of percentages for your macros in a table on the upper left. (This is all in the desktop programme, don't know about mobile app I'm afraid) You can click edit and it allows you to reset the percentage of your daily calories coming from each macro.

You can only change the percentages in increments of 5, though; if you want to really fine tune (17% carbs for instance) or set by number of grams of carbs, you need to officially subscribe/pay.

Hi all well done on losses and welcome to the newcomers.

Congrats on getting to the 10s Bear

A place - fingers crossed for physio and well done on 1.

My 2 weeks off experiment is not going well! Back on it tomorrow.

Sneaking in for a nosey. I'm interested in this but am vegetarian and it seems like a diet that might favour meat eaters more.

Choc I don't eat meat (although I do eat fish).

It's totally doable if you like eggs/cheese/tofu. Also quorn and some of the soya based veggie alternatives - cauldron sausages for example. I tend to treat these as an easy option occasionally just because they are heavily processed although I am highly partial to an Asda veggie meatball.

Typical day for me would be a couple of boiled eggs for breakfast, veg soup of some kind, bit of cheese and a veg and tofu stir fry. Fruit and yog for pud.

Mixed day here. Lardy on plan lunch of blue cheese and spinach scrambled eggs. Lovely tea of a whole pack of smoked salmon and a big salad from m&s. Should be under 900. Also was allowed to swim by my physio which was good. Bad was she suggested I might need a bit of surgery on the knee but we'll see.

Hi all,

I've been up to my eyeballs today trying to research how I can do this diet without using shakes and I'm silly with numbers and levels and I'm in a right panic now that I won't be able to do it. Sorry for the moan, I really am but DH doesn't get it so I've only here to chat about it. He keeps trying to calm down with "just eat healthy and exercise"! He doesn't understand why I want to specifically do the BSD.

I thought I had found shakes that would work, Puriton or something but I then read that the next phase, maintenance, would be much harder to regulate as I'd not been eating properly so I'm back to the drawing board with wth I can eat in work that takes very little time to prepare the night before or even for a few days in the fridge. Went back to the book for recipes and am currently trawling through to find stuff I can eat cold.

Can you tell I'm in a shit mood?

Anyway, enough about me. How's everyone doing? Has anyone here moved onto maintenance or 5:2?