Blood sugar diet thread 10

[thenewaveragebear1983]

New thread for the Blood Sugar dieters

Link to our old thread;

Blood sugar diet thread 9 www.mumsnet.com/Talk/fasting_diet/3143559-blood-sugar-diet-thread-9

Try this one:
healthyeater.com/important-tool-weight-loss

I always input as sedentary even though I do exercise as I think it might be tempting to overestimate how intensely I exercise! This one gives mine as about 1850 a day. Interestingly a body building one which I clicked on first gave mine as 1500 a day so there must be discrepancies from site to site- but I suppose it is a starting point

It always amazes me that the government recommend 2000 calories a day for women because I have never come across anyone who needed 2000 calories a day. Considering all food carries information/ percentages based on 2000 cals it is no wonder everyone gains weight eating ‘normally’!

At the end of a busy week and after a rough night with a migraine for me, we had a takeaway last night. It was chicken shashlik - me and DP shared the portion - without the sauce and with some veggies so not bad at all. DP is half doing it with me and had eggs, ham and tinned tomatoes for brunch. He is usually very much a meat and potatoes and plenty of bread guy. Tomorrow we're going to my parents' for lunch so we'll just go with the flow then get back on it afterwards.

Grumpy here today. Not sure why.

I even got grumpy doing the tdee calculator. I am short and over 40 so my sedentary tdee is only 1550.

PutTheChocEggDown, you asked what I have typically: On a good day, I have 2-3 coffees, herbal teas, shake; around lunch time, soup/ avocadoes with cottage cheese/ previous night dinner leftover/ ; dinner is veggies sauted in "good-fat" with extras from one or more of: ground almonds, ricotta, milled nut-seed mix

I struggle the most on weekends..oh God!, the amount of nuts I have had today.. Have been constantly hungry..I blame it all on the banana I added to my protein shake! I think my body is not used to having the sugar spike in the morning..
1122 cals, 58g carb
Its not so much the calories, but the hunger pangs!

Well, tomorrow is another day!

Hope everyone has had a good day and enjoyed the sunshine..apparently it's all set to change soon! Make the most of it

Aha!! Thank you bear for the tdee explanation I’m at 1600 (sedentary). I’ve never heard of this before which is crazy when like you say everything is based on 2000 calories. Having a tdee of 1600 means I’m halving my cals so should start to see results fairly quickly. I don’t eat that badly but I drink a lot of calories though alcohol but also lattes and smoothies. So cutting all 3 out won’t be easy but hopefully worth it. Instead of joining DH in a few wines this evening I had diet lemonade with a few drops of angostura bitters only to discover the bitters are 47% alcohol volume 😱 Not sure if a few drops really matters exp when compared to lots of wine.

Can someone remind me why week 2 /week 3 can be a bit rubbish. Weigh in today and I'm only down 2lbs at the end of week 2.

I seem to recall similar last time but can't remember why

Morning Phylis
There’s a whole thing about water and ‘whoosh’ phenomenon, let me see if I can find it!

This sort of explains it
100down.org/the-whoosh-effect/

And this:
caliberstrong.com/how-whooshes-impact-your-weight-loss/

This has definitely happened to me the last month- I lost virtually no weight each week but was visibly shrinking and my body shape has changed quite dramatically now. It is a really common thing on this diet, quick scan if those articles suggests that’s because the fat loss is quite quick and this is the body’s natural response to it.

Hang on in there!

Morning all. Bad night last night in terms of calories (a lot of snacking) but at least it was semi-reasonable in terms of what it was (beef jerky and roasted almonds, definite salt cravings there). Still, this is to be expected occasionally.

On the good side: despite eating what felt like a metric ton of Easter chocolate in the past month, I've managed to pass the 50 lb lost mark (since January). Still many stone to go, and it's definitely slowing down now, but I'm happy.

The articles bear refers to about the whoosh certainly make sense to me given my track record. Every now and then, my numbers on the scale drop by a few pounds very suddenly, so my record on MFP looks like stair steps, but the change in body shape feels more gradual.

@Snowglobes I used to drink 3 lattes a day (fab free coffee machine at work!). I soon realised I was using all my calories up on those when I first did the BSD. I swapped milk for almond milk and only have one latte a day now, made with almond milk, and otherwise drink black coffee or tea with a bit of normal milk. I eat yoghurt and calcium rich veg so I'm getting enough calcium.

Sorry - don't think it was Snowglobes who mentioned drinking several coffees! Anyway, hopefully my post is helpful to someone else.

Yes I remember the whoosh! Used to get 3-4 lbs off overnight. Thank you.

I've had some lovely food over the last couple of weeks and have been enjoying it. I also quite like feeling lightly hungry rather than overfed all the time.

Dh made an annoyingly perceptive comment yesterday actually. He said when you're on this plan you have healthy food you really enjoy but not much. When you're not on it you eat shit you don't enjoy. Why don't you just eat the good stuff normally but a bit more with the odd bit of shit when you fancy?'. Yes he distilled my entire weight struggle into 3 sentences. And was right. Bastard.

I fear I am thread-hogging now, but we had Waitrose Harissa Chicken meatballs for tea last night with cauliflower rice and I made a tomato sauce with finely chopped celery and carrots for extra veggies. Served with broccoli it was a filling meal.

I had got into a habit of drinking lattes if I’m having a coffee out, but was in denial a bit about how many calories is actually in them! Now I order an Americano with milk, but I ask for the milk steamed, so I still get a bit of froth but it isn’t a whole cup of milk- I honestly can’t tell much difference. Ds and I often end up at a cafe/coffee shop as I’m a sahm so it’s actually a reasonably cheap activity for us- walk/scooter round the park and a coffee. But can become a habit very quickly!

quietly, that's great progress, well done!

I followed the day's plan yesterday but when I input everything into MFP it seemed to be about double the carbs I'd been having on the week days. Went to bed feeling a bit sluggish and woke up a pound heavier, (although only by a few ounces) which has put me in a bit of a sulk. Still, 10lbs down for week 1 which I'm delighted with overall.

It was me wowfudge!! Lattes and booze and smoothies probably amounted to 2000kcal a day!
Loving this thread as I’ve never been on a diet before despite needing to as always thought I’d probably just put it all back on again. I’m 12st and need to be 10st; I’m quite excited about this as think it’ll be achievable (fingers crossed).
Do you think this will be okay...I’m going to stick close to 800cals but to achieve this I’m missing breakfast otherwise I’ll eat loads. So it’ll be brunch 11/12 then early dinner 6/7pm, therefore ‘fasting’ from 7pm to 11am (16 hours). Is there any evidence that the body stores fat when in ‘fast’ mode? I’m sure I’ve read that somewhere.

10lbs in week one? Wow!!! Well done dandelion! Amazing! Really really fabulous! Can’t wait to see the needle on the scale move backwards!

I’m also thread hogging but love the idea if your harissa meatballs - were they seriously spicy?

No - they were mildly spicy: tasty rather than hot. I oven baked them without frying first, which the wrapper said was the best thing to do, but not essential.

Thanks for the meal ideas Refurb 😊

Bear that's a really good article. I want to read the set point one too because I'm still worried about what happens after the 8 weeks on 800 cals. My TDEE is coming up at 1900 based on height and current weight but clearly going from 800 to 1900 MUST lead to weight gain! So do you build up gradually still keeping some fast days?

chocegg as your weight decreases your TDEE will decrease, so when you've reached your target weight, your TDEE will be lower than your present one, and easier to ease into from BSD intake. Plus it's likely your activity level will go up (which may buy you some calories!)

That makes sense Quietly. I just hope it doesn't come down too much!

I'm trying to meal plan for tomorrow. I'm going to do a few 1000 cal days to ease in. At the minute I have

Quorn sausage or soup as snacks
Eggs and veg for lunch
Drawing a blank for dinner. I thought it was carb free but the BSD book says quinoa, pulses, wild rice etc are ok - presumably weighed quantities though! I'm thinking veggie Bolognese with quinoa instead of pasta.

Must get my measurements too. I'd love to check my blood sugar but seems a lot of faff.

I've prepped some lunch boxes for the week. Lunch will be 350ish calories according to MFP so I will try not to eat until lunchtime most days, just drink plenty of tea, coffee and water. Aiming to have plenty of pulses, avocado, quinoa and veg in different recipes. Then I can have soup / eggs / stir fries / Bolognese etc for dinner.

Finding substitutes for pasta and rice will be the hard bit. I need to pop out for a shop shortly. Any great low cal snacks that work well with this WoE? I'm going to do 16:8 so my food window will be 11ish till 7 but some low cal nibbles would be good for nights when the snacking monster hits.

Good to see lots of whooshes on this thread. I’m only just starting to feel less rubbish after days and days of crapness plus falling off the wagon big time.

This Friday I either step on board with 5:2 OR this again, with determination to see it through even if I get a bout of carb flu every week.

Just sitting down for 5 minutes before making some Warm Halloumi Salad for lunches next week, with my Skinny Chilli bubbling away in the oven. Feeling virtuous and organised.

Have branched out from the book once or twice so DH made a 5:2 recipe I had for cauliflower crust "pizzas". Quite a lot of hassle but made a change from salads for lunch.

Have also enjoyed the Fish Inspirations and a pile of veg and a delicious Hairy Dieters Prawn Curry. Actually, quite a few of their recipes would work for the BSD so am looking forward to a bit more variety.

Weigh-in tomorrow...