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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Blood sugar diet thread 6

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 07/03/2017 15:40

Continuing thread for the blood sugar dieters......

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Scandicat · 19/03/2017 17:30

Interesting. I've tried 5:2 in the past and found the 500 calories really hard. It also made me eat more on the non-fast days. 800 does feel more doable to me.

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yumyumpoppycat · 19/03/2017 19:35

I have found the 500 easier this time but down with a cold at mo so things are sliding big time!

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MyOtherDogIsAPorsche · 19/03/2017 19:48

Been a little off course for the last couple of days but will definitely be back on track tomorrow. Nothing too disastrous but did have a couple of spoons of rice with my dinner on both Friday night and tonight. Funnily enough the scales have dipped a little after a period of nothing. Am now trying to convince myself I can lose 3 kg in two weeks..... ever the optimist me!

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 20/03/2017 10:16

bear thanks for posting the 10 principles. It's a good reminder.
I spent most of the weekend sleeping. I seem to be able to manage a few hours out and about, and then have to spend the rest of the day resting or sleeping. Hopefully this week's blood tests will get to the bottom of it.
My weight is still fluctuating between 10.7 and 10.9 so no change there.

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Justonemorecupoftea · 20/03/2017 12:37

Another 1lb down after week 3 so that's nearly a stone, still enjoying it Smile Thank you for all tips and information everyone, it really helps.

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MyOtherDogIsAPorsche · 20/03/2017 14:38

Hi, could anyone be very kind and enlarge the 10 principles for me. I can't read them and zooming in just distorts them. I don't live in the UK or I would buy a copy! Thanks all.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/03/2017 14:56

Hi other dog I have left the magazine at my mum's, so can't post it again but I'm happy to email you the pictures I took so you could enlarge them if that would help? You'd have to PM me with your email address

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MyOtherDogIsAPorsche · 20/03/2017 14:58

Thanks Bear - have pm'ed you.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/03/2017 17:10

Just found it tidying up, so here it is!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/03/2017 17:12

And the rest.....

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/03/2017 17:18

It does seem to be that he's adapted his original 5:2 plan using the BSD principles rather than adapting the BSD of that makes sense?

I've totally list the plot today. Went to lidl on an empty stomach and bought chocolate with my weekly shop, knowing full well that I was going to eat it. And I did. I must have had a little bit of my bsd brain switched on because I did buy good things for the rest of the week, but the devil on my shoulder didn't even need to try to convince me. It's annoying because the rest of my food today has been great and would probably have come in under calories if I hadn't inhaled 500 cals of chocolate. I am the queen of self sabotage aren't I?

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MyOtherDogIsAPorsche · 20/03/2017 18:52

Thanks Bear. I am a bit confused though. I thought I had signed up for 8 weeks of sub 800, low carb eating and now I am wondering if i should only be doing 2 weeks and then onto 5:2. Aaarrrggghhh!

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outnumbered38 · 20/03/2017 19:31

I'm at the end of week 4 and have lost 10 pounds which I'm chuffed to bits with. Would love to get to a stone by the end of 6 weeks. After that though I'm going away for 5 days and am absolutely petrified of putting it all back on when I'm no longer in control!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 20/03/2017 20:15

Dog/Porsche I think this new 'plan' is new for people who do his original 5:2. If you're a bsd follower, then I think it stays the same. I'm guessing he has had to rework his 5:2 as, by all accounts and in my own brief experience of it, it's quite hard to stick to if you eat 'normally' on the 5 days. He's saying use the med style eating from the BSD book on those 5 days. It might be helpful to us as maintenance once the 8 weeks are up, but as far as I know the blood sugar diet book is still OK to follow as it is and no need to 5:2 unless you want to.
Some of the principles apply though, so the 10 points are quite handy as a reminder. And being realistic a, I hardly ever get through a week without at least one three days not calorie counting, so it's very useful to me!!

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Scandicat · 20/03/2017 20:36

I've had a scale and non-scale victory today. NSV - I needed a new skirt for work because all of mine are huge on me. I bought a size 10 pencil skirt without trying it on. It fits. Miracle!!!

Scale victory - had one of those mysterious sudden drops. So I've now lost 30 pounds!!! 26 of those are from BSD in just over 10 weeks. Starting to feel like the end is in sight.

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Scandicat · 20/03/2017 20:38

Bear - I had a shop like that. I bought loads of good stuff, then got to the end and bought Haagen Dazs salted caramel ice cream sticks. They've been calling to me for a while, it was the last thing I ate before I started the diet and my very favourite ice cream. They are in the freezer - so far - but they are calling to me.

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 21/03/2017 11:43

30 pounds is fab Scandi ! You must be so proud of yourself.
I'm trying to get more organised so I spent last night going through my food diary and making a list of BSD-friendly mains, soups and snacks. I fall into making the same meals over and over again when actually there are lots of options. I'm having carrot and cauliflower soup for lunch then BSD cottage pie tonight. Snacks are mange tout and pumpkin seeds.

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Scandicat · 21/03/2017 13:05

I've started a list like that Couch. Must keep adding to it. I also eat the same things and I'd like to have some options for maintenance that are either average or low carb. I think I'm going to try and mix and match - so if lunch has carbs try to limit in dinner so I can keep as low as possible.

I guess I'm kind of transitioning into maintenance now in a way. I've just bought a soup for lunch I wouldn't have had in the first 8 weeks.

Does anyone know if it matters how you get your carbs if you stay under 50? I don't think the diet is especially clear, but having just bought a potato and bacon soup (on the basis that its 30g carbs but my dinner is omelette and has very few so I'll be under 50g in total), I'm now feeling guilty because potato is the wrong kind of carb with a high GI. I guess maybe the answer is just to limit how often you eat something like potato as opposed to a carb that comes from a more worthy vegetable Grin

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dogdaydisaster · 22/03/2017 09:49

Hi everyone, I'm back after a week off. I managed to stay the same so was happy with that. I'm basically at the end of the 8 weeks now with about 20lbs lost. I'm going to do 4 days at 800 and 3 low cars (aiming for one of these to be about 100 cals, and I'll see how it goes from here.

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 22/03/2017 10:02

Scandi I'm not sure about the different types of carbs. I've never monitored whether it impacts on my weight if I have 'bad' carbs rather than 'good' one. Although I have just realised that I only have rice carbs about once per week, and that's a fairly new addition to my diet.
dog well done on maintaining. I'm guessing there was a typo in your last line, you're not really going to have days with only 100 calories are you? Shock

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 22/03/2017 12:15

Scandi I think they are determined to be 'good' or 'bad' probably because the goodies have more fibre/protein/fat as well as carbs, thus reducing the glycemic load/GI which is why they are good/bad. Does that make sense?

So- 1oz white rice has - 37 cals/ 0.08 g fat/ 7.9g carb, 0.7 protein. 1oz quinoa has - 43 cal, 0.6g fat (double that of rice), 7.9 carb, 1.5g protein (again, double that of rice)
So although the calories and carbs are basically the same, the fat and protein in the quinoa will slow it's rare of absorption and therefore have less of an effect on the blood sugar. It doesn't say fibre on my app, but I'd guess that quinoa has more fibre than white rice too, also slowing absorption. Some carb counters deduct fibre from carb totals because they aren't digested.

In the same vein, mashed potato will have a bigger impact on your blood sugars than a jacket potato with skin, because of the fibre.

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Onawheel · 22/03/2017 14:53

Hi all - I don't post much but read this most days and have got some great advice - esp from big choc. So thanks

Just wanted to say I have done 3 weeks so far and have lost 4.5kg. It's amazing. I have another 10kg to lose before i switch to 5:2 and know it will take longer. Loss at the beginning is quick but still hugely motivating.

So big thanks and keep posting.

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Oblomov17 · 22/03/2017 18:52

Well done everyone, the Weight loss really is good!!

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Onawheel · 22/03/2017 21:03

Errr. I meant waving bear! Thank you. Big choc is on the other thread. It's a FD brain a bit fuzzy!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 22/03/2017 21:23

Evening all. I've had two reasonable days on plan but not calorie counting, tomorrow I'm going to do an 800 day, and then from Monday I'm really really really going to bite the bullet and do a full week of 800s. I think I'm putting it off, talking myself out of it, feeling a bit apprehensive but I KNOW it works and I need to work it baby. This means even at weekends. And even wine.

FB group I'm on talk about cutting out the big 5. No rice, pasta, potatoes, grains or sugar. So that's all I'm going to do. Easy huh? I was looking back through my food diary and came to the conclusion that while I think I'm doing it 5:2 I'm actually doing it probably 2:5. I'm having at least one of those Big 5 every day. Without fail, even on 'good days'. Which is why I'm gaining/losing/gaining the same 3lb over and over again. It'll be 9 weeks til whitsun half term, almost exactly when I started last year, so seems kind of apt really. I'm going to do the whole shebang, measurements, unrealistic targets, hiit workouts. Bear means business this time!!

My meals are generally good, but I snack too much, have days when I graze from the fridge, and I am a classic 'little pickers /bigger knickers' dieter. I really think it needs to be all or nothing for me- reading that daily fail thing at the weekend proved that, as I just can't do 5:2. I've been so inspired by everyone on here, and I particularly love that first timer mentality- I remember my 1st round and I literally did not drink, eat sugar, or bread, potatoes etc etc for the full 8 weeks. And I felt blooming marvellous. I want that again!!

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