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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

The 5:2 Thread number 22! Put down that biscuit - you can eat it tomorrow

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BetsyBell · 23/06/2013 15:54

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

NFD = Non fast day

NSV = Non scale victory

Michael Mosley has a website to accompany his new book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- you'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

First things first, here are links to some of our previous threads:
most recent, one before that, another one!

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the tips and links that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

There's a link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview by Dr Mosley himself, very informative if you're just starting. (I highly recommend this for an overview)

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful.

A HUGE THANK YOU to Greeneggsandnichts for putting together all the info and resources into one concise OP text, much appreciated by so many 5:2ers!

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

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SoTiredAgain · 24/06/2013 21:34

Thanks for saying the trousers are nice everyone. I got inspired from a thread I saw on Style and Beauty!

Ceebee They even have red ones in regular size. Angry

JB30 · 24/06/2013 21:49

Not an essay SoTired - love to hear how people get from there to here! Great job on the 5lb, 30 day shred is great. I have to start doing some weights myself, the running is great (I reckon it's shrinking my gut but plenty to be shrunk!) but I need some weight training, like the feeling it gives.
It's an ongoing journey that's for sure!

ELR · 24/06/2013 21:53

Thanks guys, it's probably not quite guilt to be honest it is more annoyance. tip have ordered a punch bag! Been meaning to order it for a few months now so went ahead and ordered it.
bsshh no snacking is def the way forward i know I can do it!

IDismyname · 24/06/2013 21:53

Bssh - 10 out of 10. Thank you

'Twas delish!

erikab922 · 24/06/2013 21:57

Holy hell is this hard to do the week before my period! Even when I'm not fasting the week before AF I could eat two breakfasts, three lunches and four dinners each day. Today was my first fast day during the 'danger week' and I totally crashed and burned. Anyone have any tips for handling Hell Week?

ceebeegeebies · 24/06/2013 22:00

Do you think those trousers would suit a tall size 16??

Chocupid · 24/06/2013 22:00

Yippee I had a good successful fast today, first for ages, looks like I'm back a good positive start to the week.
Hope you all did well too.

BsshBossh · 24/06/2013 22:22

FD over. Success! NFD tomorrow though I'll make it a 16:8 one.

BsshBossh · 24/06/2013 22:26

Well done ELR. Re-read those no snacking links I posted on the last thread for motivation. Also posted in the Hints & Tips thread if I recall right. Think of the 4-5 hours between meals as mini-fasts and allowing body time to repair and use up glycogen stores and reducing insulin spikes. I know it's not 5:2 but I do find it complementary to IF.

SoTiredAgain · 24/06/2013 22:31

Well done, bssh and chocupid.

ceebee I'm sure it would look nice, esp as you are tall. If you've been looking for trousers like these I think it's worth ago. Smile

swallowedAfly · 24/06/2013 22:44

five pages in already!

just marking my place - not been keeping up but will be back on board soon.

Southeastdweller · 24/06/2013 22:45

Hi folks. Back in that London after a couple of days away. Love Bristol. As I didn't meet up with my friend until Sunday, I thought it wise to fast on Saturday and also did a brisk walk up Park St and Christmas Steps, as well as a cardio session at Pure Gyms (amazing views from there). So great so far. But Sunday came and I fancied a hotel breakfast buffet which included toast and hash browns. This morning at Cafe Kino in Stokes Croft I had the same. Both times this well and truly unleashed the carb monster and I'm really looking forward to fasting tomorrow. Also bought some goodies (less than half a kilo) from an old-school sweet shop in Whiteladies Road (it's so important to support independent businesses these days Grin). I strongly think I've gone over my T.D.E.E both days but it's OK. I know I can get back on track now.

postman I have to say I'm in awe of you resisting all those biscuits and that Indian food on Friday Smile.

EagleRiderDirk · 25/06/2013 06:34

south isn't madly eating almost the point of a holiday/break Wink

morning everyone.

the scratchy throat I've had has gotten really bad today, which is meant to be a fast day. I fancy some honey and l lemon but not sure if that's going to send me into hunger overdrive. anyone tried it on a fast day before?

swallowedAfly · 25/06/2013 07:37

i doubt it would eagle and if it will help your throat go for it ii would say.

weighed in this morning and it was flickering between 10.3.8 and 10.4.4 so somewhere round there. didn't eat much over the weekend which probably kept things in check. holiday is in ten days now so time to accept i probably won't lost much before then. would've liked to have been under 10 really.

hope everyone is still going strong with the fasting and seeing results.

EagleRiderDirk · 25/06/2013 07:52

I found a vegan recipe - lemon, sweetener, cinnamon and cayenne. my throat feels a whole world better now. desperately in need of Brew now, but don't want to ruin the effect Confused

good luck all fellow fasters today.

saf you never know, the weight may suddenly go. but just think there's tons of us desperate to be your weight Smile

swallowedAfly · 25/06/2013 07:55

yes and so was i a few months ago so i'd best appreciate it really.

BetsyBell · 25/06/2013 08:29

Ok, after 5 weeks I'm now very nearly back down to my lowest recorded weigh in. This time I'm not going to sabotage myself. I want to see an even better Friday morning weigh in and get myself firmly in those 9s.

Here's the plan:

Lots of moving around, no weekday booze or snacking.

There's a slight danger zone as DH is away for a few days, if I'm unobserved I am more likely to eat naughty things (I know, I know Blush).

I may be on here more than usual so you can keep an eye on me Grin

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Dotty342kids · 25/06/2013 08:31

saf that is excellent news! You're doing so well, it wasn't so long ago that you and I were trying so desperately to get into the 10s Grin
My fast day dinner last night was lovely, at just under 500 cals but then worked my way through a mini magnum and pack of mini cheddars between 9-10pm. Aargh!

Somehow this morning though, after a weekend of definite over eating and a slightly wonky fast day yesterday I'm down another pound to 10st 7lbs. Weird, though nice.
Will see if all my bad eating habits of last few days catch me up later this week!

Bramblesinforrin · 25/06/2013 08:31

Keep going everyone. I'm 10 2 today, so maintaining after an indulgent weekend.

Just measured my stats - at least 4 inches off waist since feb! I didn't have a great deal to lose, but explains the drop in clothes sizes.

silverbeetle · 25/06/2013 08:37

Morning all, not posted much recently but have been trying to keep up with the threads.

Not so long ago SAF you never thought you'd get below 11st, what great progress Smile. Another great example of sticking with it through the dreaded plateaus.

I've been doing this WOL for 5 months now and have lost 2 1/2 stone. Scales this morning said 9st 7.2lb - this is amazing for me. Actually can't remember ever being this weight (although I'm sure I must have been around the age of 10). My goal was 9st 7lb but may try to lose a few more pounds before my hols in 5 weeks time, it may be possible or I may plateau again, whatever I'm not going to stress over it.

Couple of people at work hadn't seen me for ages and were quite shocked, but both said I looked great which started the day off well. Conversely one of my 'friends' also hadn't seen me for 6 months and apart from looking me up and down never mentioned it at all Confused. Perhaps she had other things on her mind Hmm

The bottom line is I feel great, better mentally and physically. It's such a straightforward, simple approach to eating Smile

Have a good Tuesday everyone

Bramblesinforrin · 25/06/2013 08:53

Well done silver. Friend probably well jell. It's great you've made it to target.

swallowedAfly · 25/06/2013 09:04

my son's teacher just had a conversation with my breasts. from this i glean that ds has regaled him with stories about my boobs Hmm

thanks for encouragement. it is easy to take for granted how far you've come. i'm virtually 2 stone down. it has taken a while but it has been relatively easy. i will find the energy/motivation for the next push at some point soon.

yay for loss dotty and well done silver and brambles yep 4" will make a huge difference to clothes and health.

Cluckingmad · 25/06/2013 09:08

Hi all, would love to join the thread. I started the 5:2 last Thursday and had my second successful fast yesterday. Unfortunately over the weekend I got carried away with the wine and went over my TDEE Blush. But I am now logging with MFP as I need to re-educate myself as to what normal eating is, for far to long I have been filling my face!

Strangely this morning after my fast I have so much energy, I have even been for a jog, albeit a slow one Smile.

BetsyBell · 25/06/2013 09:14

Silverbeetle You appear to be at my new goal weight! (slightly Envy but mostly thrilled for you, all that in 6 months - brilliant!)

Your 'friend' is definitely a bit green I think.

saf maybe you need to look at some of your old posts... You've done amazingly well Grin. Amused by the teacher!

Eagle Hope your throat calms down soon, I'm a big fan of lemon, honey & fresh ginger for colds & throats, I don't think it ever kicked off a hunger thing for me.

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BetsyBell · 25/06/2013 09:18

cluckingmad Welcome and sounds like you've had a great start! Re-assessing what 'normal' eating looks like is a very important step, once you're there you can do what some of us do - eat slightly under tdee in the week to allow for extras at the weekend! It's improtant not to feel deprived everyday - it's what makes this WOE a long term possibility.

The energy is probably your body celebrating it hasn't had to work so damn hard on your digestive system overnight - it needs a regular break! (not scientific obviously...)

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