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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

The 5:2 Thread number 22! Put down that biscuit - you can eat it tomorrow

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BetsyBell · 23/06/2013 15:54

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

NFD = Non fast day

NSV = Non scale victory

Michael Mosley has a website to accompany his new book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- you'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

First things first, here are links to some of our previous threads:
most recent, one before that, another one!

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the tips and links that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

There's a link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview by Dr Mosley himself, very informative if you're just starting. (I highly recommend this for an overview)

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful.

A HUGE THANK YOU to Greeneggsandnichts for putting together all the info and resources into one concise OP text, much appreciated by so many 5:2ers!

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

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ELR · 27/06/2013 20:06

Porridge has been eaten and feeling much better!
dotty DH is tucking into the spicy baked beans you mentioned up thread! Thanks they taste lovely.

mttum · 27/06/2013 20:21

Yeah, I'm going to try those beans too, they sound delicious!

JB30 · 27/06/2013 20:28

Ah flip Bss just remembered I have that jelly but in powder, wouldn't be set in time. But I shall remember for Monday Wink Thank you kindly for suggestion.
Tempted to have a nice galaxy hot chocolate, allow myself a nudge over the 500, would that be terrible? Be around 550, I could live with it. Going to wait 20 mins, if still hankering then I'll have it.
Thanks mttum - just copped your username! Grin V good Wink

Emilythornesbff · 27/06/2013 20:35

Yes thanks peplum it was lovely.

saf thinking of you. Thanks

betsy Thanks glad your DS is healing.

(almost) total fast today. Had milk in some yea and coffee.
Hungry.
But it's stopped me from cracking open the Turkish delight I bought in duty free. Grin

Emilythornesbff · 27/06/2013 20:37

Ooh JB I might have to have a hot chocolate. Mmmmmmm.

Southeastdweller · 27/06/2013 20:37

How're you getting on judith? A tip I found helpful initially is to have an early night. I think keeping busy is the most important one, though.

Curry fan here too. I do a tomato and coconut cream base and then add cumin, turmeric, ginger, coriander, sometimes chilli seeds. I don't eat meat so I add a ton of veg, lentils and either chick peas or kidney beans. It's the coconut that makes the difference. Fabulous. Will look out for mango powder.

BsshBossh · 27/06/2013 20:39

Oh no, mttum I didn't mean to suggest you should stop being vegan Blush. I was an ethical vegan too. I just ate too much food and certainly too many vegan processed foods eg fake cheese and spreads. And yes, too much vegan baked goodies.

mttum · 27/06/2013 21:11

No that's ok Bssh, but I certainly have to eat more healthily, and cut out the snacks etc. I've seen your posts over on the NoS site, btw Grin: good site!

alwaysanauntie · 27/06/2013 21:24

Sooo glad I was too busy at work this avo to keep up with the thread, all that curry talk would have done me in! Must try and cook some when we do kitchen up as DH and I are serial Friday night curry fans (same restaurant for 11 years, we've moved a couple of miles further away thank goodness, probably accounts for a considerable portion of my midriff Grin)

Welcome amiga if you stick to the basic principles, this wol is very do-able. Good luck & keep coming on here for support and motivation :)

JudithOfThePiece · 27/06/2013 21:46

Southeast - that's a good idea - I think an early night is in order!! I did fall off the wagon a bit this afternoon, but I still quite pleased overall. I'm going to take what I've learnt and go for it again on Tuesday.

And at some point over the weekend, I'm defo having a curry!!

akarucker · 27/06/2013 22:18

I bet at least half of the people on this thread have a curry this weekend! I'm glad it's a FD tomorrow...need to make some room for said curry!!

Talkinpeace · 27/06/2013 22:23

well, since its been suggested .... mine is likely to have lamb in it though ... and spinach as I have LOADS of spinach in the veg garden

BsshBossh · 27/06/2013 22:35

Successful FD. Curry consumed with gusto. NFDs until Monday. G'night!

virginposter · 27/06/2013 23:37

nobreadisanisland.blogspot.co.uk/

mttum have a look at the above website which belongs to Breadandwine who is a very active and knowledgeable vegan contributor to this forum and the 4:3 maintainers forum. He is a great example of a successful vegan 5:2er. If you look at the recipe threads you will see many of his ideas on there.

BetsyBell · 28/06/2013 08:43

Self-sabotaging. Excuses or not, my good intentions went awry (as they so often do), ate things that contained more sugar and salt than I would normally have and boy am I regretting it this morning. It's like my body pressed the 'reject' button and my poor digestive system is in turmoil.

Must learn from this. Why do I forget?

Emily Hope you had a lovely holiday :) Thank you for the Flowers x

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Dotty342kids · 28/06/2013 09:07

ELR and mttum glad the indian beans on toast concept is a winner! My DH will be chuffed that he's converting people to the joys of it Smile
10st 8lbs this morning after second fast day of the week so maintained which I'm fine with.
CAmping this weekend so will invariably be inhaling cider and crisps at an alarming rate!

BsshBossh · 28/06/2013 09:11

Morning all. Friday weigh in for me and 0.6 lb lost. Happy with that as it's been a particularly bad TOM week and I've not done any exercise at all.

mehefin · 28/06/2013 09:15

Dotty
Thank you for the Indian beans recipe that will be teenage DS dream meal I think

Itsaboatjack · 28/06/2013 09:19

Morning. FD for me today and I need it too. A bit of self sabotage last night after being so pleased about being in the 10s. Oh well onwards and upwards, or rather downwards hopefully.

Betsy glad you ds is on the mend. I remember carrying my dd1 through the streets of Rome looking for the A&E after she fell and split her head open.

SoTiredAgain · 28/06/2013 09:25

Good news (weight) is I've lost another lb so that's a total loss of 6 lbs in 4 weeks and only 6 lbs to go. Yay!

Bad news (life) is that I was offered a job but due to restructuring the job will no longer exist. Am gutted. It was my chance to get a permanent part time contract. I feel very down and teary. Sad

JB30 · 28/06/2013 09:57

Friday WI - down 2.4 to 11.9 - happy happy. Going to have my brekkie, was going to hang on for lunch but think I'm being too hard on myself ( and feeling a bit woozy!)
Ahh sorry about the job SoTired Sad At least your weight loss is going really good

mttum · 28/06/2013 10:21

Thanks for the link virgin, and well done to all losers. Another week at 196lb and 40.5 inch waist for me, despite 3 "fast" days (600 cals) this week. Seems the deadly plateau has struck as this has been 4 weeks now, but the overall picture is a loss of 19lb and 1.5 inches since April, so shouldn't complain too much Sad

Rotten news sotired. It's probably not much consolation right now but I have often found that something even better comes along after a disappointment like that, so here's hoping...

headintheclouds · 28/06/2013 11:02

Morning all, I'm beyond myself with joy today, ridiculously chuffed! I have weighed in at 10 st 2 this morning!! Yay..
I've now lost a stone which was my first goal! This is a loss of 3 lbs in a week for me .. I literally cannot believe it and think my scales must be broke! In the last 2 weeks I've hit the gym 3 times a week and lowered my TDEE and this last week I've added in 16:8 on NFDs ..playing hard ball has paid off!
Looking forward to a nice curry tonight . Have a good time camping dotty - hope its not a wet one ( tipping it down here!

NoForkNKnife · 28/06/2013 11:09

Hi strangers!

I haven't been on this I even the last thread Blush. Wanted to say I am half heatedly following this wol still. I had a plateau of about 3 weeks and got a bit discouraged. All of a sudden it started to come off again! Yay! I've lost just shy of half a stone since starting about 7 weeks ago.
I've had people asking if I've lost weight Shock which has given me a boost and a kick to get back on the wagon. I have even managed to get into trousers and jeans a size down-back to a 14!
I'll try and keep up. Had first fast day in about 2 weeks yesterday. Some days it's so easy. Then others I wake up starving. I've decided that if that happens to just go with it. I'm still expressing for my preemie dd (who incidentally still weighs less than the weight I've lost) and some days I just need the calories.

So Flowers for the thread and bringing this woe to my attention. I keep hearing you say about the health benefits. Can anyone sum them up (haven't time to do much reading).
2 sick DDs here today. Thankfully not a FD!

BetsyBell · 28/06/2013 11:18

sotired Congrats on the loss but boo & hugs re. job x

headintheclouds Yay! Sounds like you've literally worked your butt off for that result, brilliant :)

JB30 Excellent! There's nothing wrong with a bit of brekkie if you want it! I do find a bit of chopped fruit, a dollop of yogurt and muesli sprinkle is my favourite fast breaker, satisfying without feeling heavy going.

I need to make some packed lunch, not feeling inspired but I think a few salad leaves and raw veggies make the most sense today.

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