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Music Specialist School Discussion

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Kutik73 · 10/06/2018 22:58

Sorry, this is rather long…

We’d never considered specialist school route for our musical DS, especially at such a tender age (he is Y6). However, we’ve recently started seeing it could be an option in possibly near future.

The state secondary school DS is supposed to start from September has good reputation with a wide range of extracurricular activities and music is one of their strengths. However, they also hand out heavy amount of academic work daily, and basically keep their pupils pretty busy. Keeping teens busy could be a good thing, especially for those who may get in trouble or glue themselves to screen otherwise. But DS loves music and he likes to immerse himself in music more, but in reality, he’ll have less time for such freedom once he starts secondary school. The additional journey time is another thing. It takes 45 mins to get there, whereas it’s only 5-10 mins currently.

A friend suggested we could see specialist school as a small private school with strong music activities rather than a place where all DCs were aiming to be professional musicians.

Her logic is, the class size is a lot smaller than the state secondary school so pupils get more attention hence learn more efficiently, all the while there is no compromise in music studies. DCs who are keen to keep up academic work on top will manage to get good enough GCSE results for decent sixth form if they decide to pursue other than music for A level/uni. Although sixth form seems the most popular (and sensible) time to join specialist school, KS3 is actually the best time because if DCs change their mind on course, it’s easier for them to return to ‘normal education’ possibly at sixth form with good enough academic record and musical ability strong enough to be a music scholarship material. But if they stay focused on music and in fact decide to take it seriously, starting early will only become beneficial. Though, it depends on circumstance of course, and instrument. DS plays violin/piano for instance - hence early start can be rather important.

However, I heard and read some scary stories about music specialist school while I was researching. Some claimed they felt like they were living in a prison, some expressed unhappiness (even though they recognised the benefit and appreciated their fortunate position), some teachers talked about very able young musicians going to specialist school as a huge mistake, etc…

DS innocently expresses strong desire to go to music specialist school. I, as a parent, wish him happiness more than anything. By accepting his desire and letting him go where he says he likes to go, am I pushing him into a harsh and scarily competitive world unnecessarily? Or, like my friend suggested, it could be a lot more flexible than I may have been thinking and in fact could be good alternative KS3 education for musical and academic DCs?

Any thoughts/knowledge/experience would be greatly appreciated…

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catkind · 15/06/2018 17:14

Glad he enjoyed himself. What fantastic self confidence he has.

Kutik73 · 15/06/2018 18:14

Just got an offer letter starting from this September....

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Wafflenose · 15/06/2018 18:22

Brilliant. Of course he was going to get in though. What are you going to do?

folkmamma · 15/06/2018 18:30

Amazing! But not at all surprised... boarding??

disorganisedmummy · 15/06/2018 18:35

I've been lurking on this thread. Just read Kutik's amazing news!!

Huge congrats to mini Kutik. ☺️

Japanese · 15/06/2018 18:53

Wow - fantastic news! Many congratulations mini kutik! Smile Star

se22mother · 15/06/2018 18:59

Congratulations StarStar

stringchild · 15/06/2018 19:09

What a superstar! Good luck with deciding 😉

ealingwestmum · 15/06/2018 19:33

Enjoy your weekend Kutik Your mini is just awesome 👏

TaggieOHara · 15/06/2018 20:10

Amazing news -congratulations! Star

Kutik73 · 15/06/2018 20:28

Thanks everyone. Yes, it'll be weekly boarding. They said they could be flexible but hinted boarding would be most preferable. Not sure how they found extra room, or perhaps someone has dropped out?? Anyway, DS is super excited, obviously. We'll have a meeting over the weekend (we have to discuss about kitten too).

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raspberryrippleicecream · 15/06/2018 20:30

Congratulations Kutic. Though there was never any doubt!

Trumpetboysmum · 15/06/2018 20:30

I knew they would offer him a place great news well done mini ( and good luck with making your decision) Smile

TaggieOHara · 15/06/2018 20:40

It’s amazing how places appear in full schools when outstanding candidates turn up... Grin. Good luck with your deliberations, also about the kitten!

gillybeanz · 15/06/2018 20:45

Kutik

Aw, well done.
He'll have the time of his life, I'm so happy for him.
If any of us you know from other thread can help with any info, please get in touch.
I can't tell you what it has and is doing for my dd. Grin

littleladsdad · 15/06/2018 21:11

Great news Kutik, you'll be 'pinching yourself' for a while to come!

catkind · 15/06/2018 21:14

Great, well done him Star I don't know much about music schools but sounds like mini kutik would be utterly in his element. Good luck with your big decision.

littleladsdad · 15/06/2018 21:23

claraschu & Paul

DS will be attending JD in London on Saturdays but won't be having lessons there. Staff at specialist school are happy with this arrangement. DS currently attends RBC JD and wanted to continue to attend a JD. We like the idea, as he will get to make other friends outside the school.

gillybeanz · 15/06/2018 21:40

I think it's only our school that don't encourage jd's at the weekend as they have full orchestra rehearsals on a Saturday morning, and some sectionals, plus the ensembles.
Mine is usually free after lunch, and will get the train home to return after tea on Sunday.

Reading your OP, the question of making a wrong decision for the child is something you have to weigh up.
You can read a lot between the lines through their websites, look at the reports both boarding and ofsted.
E.g we realised there would be very little PE it was stated on one of the inspection reports. It's pretty obvious with individual programmes and so few children, team sports are pretty much out.
We knew which subjects wouldn't be an option for GCSE, they offer the same each year.
We didn't know there would only be two option for GCSE but it's worked out ok. I'm glad dd will do 8 at most.
I think whichever specialist music school you attend unless Wells, which isn't really music specialist, you have to know that the education is usually the min hours allowed per subject, the music always has to come first, as it's why they are there.

They do get extremely tired and although they have downtime, fun and games Grin it's unlikely that boarders would be able to fit in any regular extra curricular activities that requires commitment.
During the evening they have prep, sometimes supervised and maybe practice or a rehearsal.
Saying that, once a week dd does Scouts, the group come into school, and they do go camping a few times a year.

Drop me a pm Kutik, will help with anything I can, I know there will be obvious differences but from what I've heard, they all share certain similarities.

gillybeanz · 15/06/2018 22:10

2ndSoprano

I'm so sorry, I missed your post. Likewise, I'm not an authority but dd is just finishing her third year there and if I can help, I will. Thanks
There is so much to know about these schools before you commit.
I agree with others though, if it doesn't suit you can leave.

Kutik73 · 15/06/2018 22:24

Thanks for all the kind words! Thanks also for sharing your wisdom, gilly. So far, we are quite happy with the arrangements they offer including academic support.

They said DS was a superb mathematician (they tested his academic abilities though it had no influence on their selecting process) and were willing to stretch his strength by giving him more challenging work. Their tiny class size allows individually tailored programme and let able DCs move ahead at their pace (so Y7 can study the same material as Y9, for instance). Quite a few seem to take GCSEs earlier.

PE is only twice a week, but then there are after school activities which includes playing football and table tennis, etc. This is one of the great benefits of boarding. If he doesn't board, then he will spend in a car instead of all those activities.... He does lots sports on Sundays which he can continue without a problem as he is coming home Sat to Sun (or Mon). So I am not bothered too much by having PE only twice a week (though not ideal!).

Oooh, interesting, I am leaning towards becoming a pro-music school, an't I??! One of his good friends is starting from September also, that's a bonus.

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Kutik73 · 15/06/2018 22:33

Also, to answer to my own initial question, it seems flexible as my friend pointed. A couple of DCs are apparently leaving after GCSEs as they decided they wouldn't want to pursue music professionally. The Head said children can change no matter how talented, and the school happily support their choice 100%. Hmm, sounds too good to be true...

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Paulweller11 · 15/06/2018 22:39

Congrats mini Kutik and Kutik- I knew he would get a place! 🤣
Good luck with all the prep- I’m sure he’ll love it!

Doubleup · 15/06/2018 23:52

Congrats to miniKutik!

claraschu · 16/06/2018 02:50

That is wonderful, and I am sure he will be very very happy! The younger kids all run around a lot, constant football, so even though there isn't much PE, they are active and lively.

The kind and supportive atmosphere among the kids is the best thing about the school-

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