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Guiders Staff Room Part 3

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Groovee · 08/11/2016 17:51

Reconvening over here ladies.

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drspouse · 05/03/2018 20:06

Here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3185893-Im-a-Guider

Ffsnothingworks · 05/03/2018 21:08

No answers I am afraid, but we did lightly discuss it at safe space training, about the possibility of a boy living as a girl wanting to join.

I would be interested in any answers. I do know of an eight year old boy living as a girl at the moment, so it could be something we come across one day.

drspouse · 05/03/2018 21:12

I've just had a message from someone whose DD's Guider left over this issue.
I have now started a FB group for this.

MsAwesomeDragon · 05/03/2018 21:13

I'm sorry DrSpouse I don't know any of the answers to help you. I wish I did. It's definitely something that worries me, both as a guider and as a parent. When I finally get to do my safe space training I'll be asking those questions too.

Groovee · 06/03/2018 06:45

Invoice paid in full email this morning! Always a relief despite knowing it was being processed and plenty money in the bank.

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MsAwesomeDragon · 06/03/2018 17:12

Does anyone know how long it takes to change signatures on a unit account? We've just found the forms we all filled in back in December but apparently never sent off, so we aren't actually signatories on the account to pay census. Oops.

Groovee · 06/03/2018 20:45

It took about 10 days after 18 months of trying with bank of Scotland!

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Becles · 14/03/2018 08:11

Sorry to break it to you, but we've been trying since last June. Still not sorted even though county are now involved. I don't know why CHQ just can't have an arrangement with one bank with post office links to make things easier.

drspouse · 14/03/2018 10:00

In case you didn't spot it

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3192842-calling-all-gender-critical-guiders

Becles · 14/03/2018 13:24

Saw that, I have significant concerns about self id in general but think that this is a really poor way to approach it.

Heratnumber7 · 14/03/2018 20:31

The response I got on SS training was that it's out of GGs hands. They have to comply with the law.
Will join other group.

Heratnumber7 · 14/03/2018 20:38

A few of us gender critical guiders have got together away from MN to share ideas and think about how we might challenge this policy. Our individual letters to GGHQ have been ignored or dismissed but there is strength and safety in numbers.

I can't work out how to PM from the app. Can someone PM me please? I feel so strongly about this subject.

drspouse · 14/03/2018 21:10

Heart they are actually breaking the law. The law says we can have separate sex organisations but not separate gender.
I'm PMing you.

InflagranteDelicto · 15/03/2018 06:58

Invoice paid. Hooray!

Volunteered to help at Guide camp this summer, they were short of adults. Been cough quite a few years since I last went to Guide camp!

District administrator GO training this morning. And Dd1 not well. Its going to be a good day

Groovee · 18/03/2018 05:55

It's snowing, icy and windy and my older Brownies are going on a guide moving up day at an outdoor centre. I'll layer up and hope for the best. It sounded a great idea but it's been so much stress.

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Groovee · 18/03/2018 08:00

Outdoors cancelled. Back in bed!

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InflagranteDelicto · 20/03/2018 06:42

As much as the day being cancelled is sad - back to bed? Sounds great!

Groovee · 20/03/2018 07:21

I was relieved. Life has been difficult lately and it was nice to have a lazy day.

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BringOnTheScience · 22/03/2018 08:07

It looks like we're heading to ICANDO for Friday night in summer. It'll be the first time that I've taken Brownies by train and first time with them to London, although I've been many times myself or with family.

Any tips please? Dos and Don'ts?

Thanks

InflagranteDelicto · 24/03/2018 12:54

Watching with interest, a trip to I Andi is in my list. You might get more answers on the fb page though.

InflagranteDelicto · 25/03/2018 08:04

Do you remember back in Sept I had a leader who disappeared without a word? Lives up the road from me, but avoided me at every opportunity despite working at dd2's school? Solved that mystery this weekend.

The head at the school is a leader at a guide unit in a village a few miles away, turns out Wise Owl and her daughter have gone there. Doesn't surprise me, she's always been heavily involved in her daughters activities (and the older ones). Just wish she'd felt able to say she wasn't coming back.

Heratnumber7 · 25/03/2018 10:16

Icando - go and watch the changing of the guard. It's less than 5 mins away.

Groovee · 25/03/2018 10:29

@InflagranteDelicto she sounds rude that she couldn't even speak to you regarding needing to move with her daughter. I knew someone like that too.

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InflagranteDelicto · 25/03/2018 10:45

Her daughter went, along with 3 others to the guide unit we feed to. Dd1 goes there, for goodness sake! But 3/4 weeks in the daughter stopped going, no word from her (WO) to the Guide leaders either. We'd had a disappearing Brownie while she was a leader with me, she knew what the not knowing was like.

I knew the head was a leader, Wise Owl works at the school. But she's gone out of her way (literally, head down and avoiding eye contact if passed at the school gate) to avoid me. Not a word other than an email to say what a great job I was doing and that she had stuff going on.

Ffs, why isn't she have said! I'm not an ogre. I've have been sad to hear that, but could have organised a good bye for the brownies, who missed her. Would have known where I stood leadership team wise. I'm so lucky, as she disappeared I found 2 young leaders and then a Lit on fb, then her friend also came as a LiT. So it's OK. But equally, I'm surprised at how upset I am that she couldn't tell me. I know I'm not the most cuddly, touchy feely of people, but Ffs!

20thCenturyBrownOwl · 25/03/2018 15:11

How do you become a Guider now-a-days? I don't know anyone currently involved and don't see local Brownie groups out and about or advertising any events.

I'd been running a Brownie Pack whilst I was at University in the 1990's, which I left when I graduated and got a job elsewhere, then never had time to go back due to work and life. Many years on, I have more available time and I'd like to get back into Guiding, but, without any connections, I don't really know how.

How do I find a unit?
Would they even want me after so long?
Will I recognise Guiding - how much have the programme and the organisation changed since 1997?

All advice gratefully received.

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