Young Voices 2010/11 - CD2 Track 17 - Disgraceful Songs

[RangTang4]

My DD came home on Thursday night with a CD containing all the lyrics for the Young Voices Concert taking place this year. One track called 'Pop Medley' contains the most horrendously inappropriate lyrics for young voices, of which there will be 90,000 taking part. The lyrics mention 'guns' 'bad romance', 'taking risks', 'lovers revenge', plus lots of bad boys, bad boys bad boys.....!!!!' The literature that comes with the CD asks parents to help their offspring learn the lyrics - over my dead body.
This track in my humble opinion has to be withdrawn immediately unless of course we wish to remain number two in the world for teenage pregnancies. Have a look for yourself at www.youngvoices.co.uk
I only played the CD once but now my three year old boy is singing the mentionned words. My daughter of course loves it and keeps on singing it too.I dont suppose anyone has Michael Gove's email address? Needless to say my daughter will not be attending. I feel I am going to have to seek legal advice. I have emailed the organisation asking for a recall. When I think of all the beautiful love songs they could be singing and they have chosen cheap 'on trend' trashy lyrics, my heart bleeds.

Where's the mis-speaking? She did indeed sing Eurythmics in assembly a year ago. They were doing some sort of 'time warp' malarkey that also involved Green Day and something from the seventies with tie dyed garb.

Nothing poor about her. And nothing wrong with enjoying a bit of Lady Gaga Although not so keen on the pillow-writing... I'm sure Rang can use her wealth of psychology knowledge to explain how the two are linked.

Yep. We sang Madonna in assembly. A bit of True Blue. "I've had other guys..."

And Bananarama. Weren't the eighties wonderful?

'scuse me, I gotta go rob a liquor store and push over an old lady now. Damn my childhood.

what the heck! just make it up as you go along...

And for parents day, they had a medley from NWA's 'Straight Outta Compton'

Was a right treat.

I might be lying about this bit though.

Regarding legal action and I am hoping that the song can be removed and replaced quickly as turnover for the 4 concerts could be around £1.6 million.

If the Human Rights Act can allow foreign rapists and murderers to stay in this country and Eastern European to illegally squat in other people's homes, I am going to check what human rights our young children are afforded as they to me are more vulnerable and deserving that the above two categories.

I have worked for several years in the legal industry working with the Top 100 law firms so I think I will ask a specialist at Clifford Chance or Eversheds.

I think that there must be something there about rights to a childhood? I will let you know.

Carmen

Were you a kid when Cliff Richard was deemed too sexy or is this bit just made up too?

I never implied you were rough or uncouth. Anyone who has critical conversations with their preschoolers about sex and doesnt try and bubble wrap them

Carmen

I never implied that you or your children are rough and uncouth.

We just have very different ideas of our parental responsiblities or how far to bubblewrap our preschoolers from the general lapse and damaged world we have created for them.

"I have worked for several years in the legal industry working with the Top 100 law firms so I think I will ask a specialist at Clifford Chance or Eversheds."

Because they need something to laugh at in the current economic climate.

Pixie

You are probably right - but what can I do. I am getting the impression that no one gives a damn anyway. Let them all sing the trashy lyrics in their beautiful innocence like little lambs to the slaughter house.

Let us mothers, fathers, nanas and grandparents all pay the £18 to see them do it and try and park at the NEC in the Christmas rush.

In desperation I have had a drawl through the infamously crazy Human Rights Act as to the special 40 plus areas that cover children and their rights to a childhood. Its rather like the clothing campaign that Mumsnet has instigated probably lead to nothing as well.

Surely common sense should prevail here. Its morally and spiritually wrong to have 90,000 children singing about guns, and bad boys or be dressed like mini sluts. Or am I just being an hysterical Mary Whitehouse clone as suggested by Carmen.

Oh well I will save the money for the four tickets. Hey hum every cloud has a silver lining. Word to the wise dont try and raise serious concerns on Mumnset about your children's exposure to harmful things - its a waste of time.

Tokyonambu

''Because they need something to laugh at in the current economic climate.''

You are right again.

Why would I want spend my money trying to help other people's young children from being made to sing Lady Gaga songs which I am sure are written for adults anyway.

Most of these lawyers probably don't give a flying hoot anyway about our children either. Do you know they charge for each '10 mins' if they go for a sandwich they are charging you.

Thanks Tokyonambu for bringing me to my senses.

"Why would I want spend my money trying to help other people's young children from being made to sing Lady Gaga songs"

The key part of a lawyer's job is the first three letters. If you can think of a law that's being breached, knock yourself out.

Becuase I geniunely care about other people's children I help run a children's toddler group and have just volunteered to go into DD's school to help out once a week. I am also on the PTA for fundraising.

Three years ago I set up a campaign with friends to stop the closure of our local maternity unit which we won in the end.

I can just imagine the backlash from you all calling me a horrid do gooder. I am also a Christian and this is my last posting on the subject.

"Its morally and spiritually wrong to have 90,000 children singing about guns, and bad boys or be dressed like mini sluts. Or am I just being an hysterical Mary Whitehouse clone as suggested by Carmen."

The point isn't that it's wrong or not.

Most things in this society are wrong - we are ruled by exploitation, commercialism, uber-capitalism.

But in the grand scheme of things, having kids sing a few lyrics that they probably already know and that verge on being a bit too adult is not ideal but it's not nearly as serious as you seem to think.

All the 'beautiful little lambs' stuff is just revolting - as they go to school, clubs etc. they're not going to be quite so untainted and if you don't prepare them for the outside world, they and you will be in for a shock.

And please, please drop the name-dropping and weird extraneous information.

Carmen

When you complained about your daughter singing inappropriate lyrics at her school:-

Actually, I complained when my daughter (then 6) had to learn the words to Sweet Dreams by the Eurythmics at school. But singing "Some of them want to be abused" is a completely different ball park to this.

What did the teacher whom you complained to say?

Was it
a) The point isn't that it's wrong or not.

Most things in this society are wrong - we are ruled by exploitation, commercialism, uber-capitalism.

b)We suggest using critical thinking as we dont want to bubble wrap up your six year old do we.

c) If you think this is bad next term's project we will all be learning off by heart the lyrics to Bad Romance and the prize is a fluffy pillow and pen set.

Do tell me as I am riveted.

I genuinely loled at c. Brilliant

Actually, they just changed the lyric to 'some of them want to confuse you' which was fair enough.

Do you think that the organisation in question will change their lyrics.

How about instead of
''the girl is the gun to my holster''

we have

''The girls got her finger in the toaster''

As you can see I am no poet - can you think of anything that with rhymes with

bad boys, bad boys, bad boys, bad boys

RT4, it's really straightforward. If you don't like the songs, don't let your child take part. Talk to a few other parents, and get them to withdraw their children (or laugh in your face, but no-one said it would be easy). If that happens, the school will want to talk to you.

But "I am Christian and have met some lawyers"? You only need to write in green ink and the effect is complete.

I don't get it. On what grounds would you take legal action?

I know nothing about Young Voices, but if you are this unhappy, why don't you just withdraw your child from this activity?

Blimey - had best listen to the CD DD1 brought home last Thursday then

She is 10 though and listens and sings along to these songs all the time.

I had balked at the £18.00 tickets though and also having to buy a t-shirt for them to wear!

Tokyonambu
Did you really attend a Young Voices Concert last year? I am surprised.

''A better objection would be that it's a hideous commercial scheme to extract over-priced ticket money out of parents who can ill afford it but don't want their child to be the ones whose parents didn't go, muttering "sing in it if you want, but I'm not going to encourage them".

Like our children were.

Because it's a hideous, etc, etc. That the music is low-brow crap is neither here nor there: the whole scheme is a shameful piece of low quality avarice on the part of the organisers.^

Its just you sound such a clever dick.

I am surprised someone with your superior level of interlect could not have done your research first - maybe you are just too busy telling us how to do ours.

Best be honest with the kids next time and say honeys we cannot afford it.

Elsaz,

Thanks

I have withdrawn my child from the concert.

I am not taking legal action becuase Tokyonambu wont let me...........!!!!!

"Did you really attend a Young Voices Concert last year? "

No, I didn't. For precisely the reason outlined. I can perfectly well afford £18, but I'm not prepared to pay that, so I didn't. I fetched and carried my children, that's all.

"I am surprised someone with your superior level of interlect could not have done your research first"

I did. I'm not quite clear what gives you the impression I didn't. As I said, my children we the ones whose parents didn't go, muttering "sing in it if you want to, but I don't want to encourage them".

Hahaha

This is my message I have sent to the Director of Music of young voices whom I have been in contact with all day.

Dear ......

I wasn't sure who Alexandra Burke is as I do not as a rule watch the X Factor.

I have just logged on to her official website.

Please tell me that Alexandra is only going to be performing her song bad boys '' in her role'' as you put it and not wearing that outfit with the black pvc bra and see thru milk bottle top mini dress that leaves nothing to the imagination. No wonder you are all so keen to have her back on the show.

You think we were all born yesterday. Put her in one of your white teeshirts and a sensible pair of jeans.

I can now see why you are adding a Redemption Song asking for forgiveness for an error and a few numbers performed by a group of singing angels.

I represent the International Mothers Prayer Group as well as co run a Praise and Play Group for toddlers at my local church. I think we will be organising a coach party to come and visit you to discuss further.

In your YV website you mention that parents have to get up and do the actions - what actions are you planning for Bad Boys - please not my husband stripping off to his underpants while Ms Berk dances around him - in a role of course? With Michael Jackson then do we have to make ridiculous squeaky noises and then stratch our crotches.

Today they announced that 1.8 million girls in this country have anorexia. One fifth with die from it. I have lost a close friend to this. Do you think that pressure from seeing ladies like Cheryl Cole and Alexandra dancing like this might be making them feel a tad bit inadequate?

Have a look also at the Mumsnet Campaign to let Girls be Girls.