Is anyone still saying Brexit is good for the economy?

[Kendodd]

And does anyone still believe them if they are?

I have sensed a shift, and that Leave supporters are now saying that they knew Brexit would damage the economy but wanted it anyway. Better to lose on your own than win as part of a team.

Economists for Brexit seem to have disappeared.

@ToryShillBot- remember the good lod days...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vlYE6vgGeSQ

Introduce friction with your closest and largest trade partner - economy suffers. Who'd have thought! Not to mention the 4 years cost and distraction getting it implemented.

Clearly the idiots that have NO comprehension of the way the world works. Even the 'glory days' when Britain 'ruled' much of the world the good times only applied to a few who through corruption or violence simply stole from native peoples and as the 'rule of law' hadn't really developed in the international sense Britain got away with so much.
Globalised companies that supply the goods and products the UK NEEDS often had British 'roots' BUT successive UK governments have allowed this to dissipate so now Britain as a whole has LOST much of it's power and influence for which the MONEY went to offshore havens in accounts related to corrupt politicians and 'businessmen'. Look at the 'antics' in New Caledonia at the moment and you will see what the 'independence' movements can unleash and I fully expect the UK to follow the footsteps of New Caledonia possibly by the end of the UK 'summer'. New Caledonia has NO independent 'trade deals' (since it is French territory) and thus part of the EU so depending on how independent it really wants to be will have massive impact. Getting hitched to China would be catastrophic, as various African countries are discovering since ditching 'colonialism from the West China provided massive loans for intrastructure with strings attached that are as bad or worse than the former colonial rulers. Brexiteers need to remobe their heads from the sand or other places where the sun doesn't shine and see how the rest of the world works and consider that the UK is now largely independent and losing it's influence worlwide.

Our PMs personal wealth has surged these past few years, so hurrah for Brexit.

Ideally he will eventually have all the UKs money, and then can spend it wisely.

Another hurrah. Cheap lamb and a fresh source of labour as we need less farmers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjewewxzypro

@TorToryShillBot
These fishermen can celebrate as well. They get to retire early thanks to Brexit.
BBC News - Plymouth fish market closes at Sutton Harbour - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg3939vn7j4o

Another hurrah. Cheap lamb and a fresh source of labour as we need less farmers.
Surely you mean FEWER farmers?

These fishermen can celebrate as well. They get to retire early thanks to Brexit.
BBC News - Plymouth fish market closes at Sutton Harbour

So naturally nigel Farage was there showing his support for the fishrermen and explaining the realistic plans he had for them when the UK left the EU (with the attendant problems, that he was fully aware of years before the referendum on leaving).
Ir perhaps not because he decided to be absent for all but one of the votes on fishing matters while he was an MEP. perhaps this is where the problem lies?

This is exactly the sort of positive thinking we need to get this country straight again.

Thanks to Brexit, you can now dine outdoors!

If Dining in the street is a 'Brexit benefit' perhaps the eU should forget to tell the UK that it is practically standard in many EU countries (weather permitting) and in any case is a SOVEREIGN choice as it is not part of EU regulations at all.
Ate Brits really so stupid they believe the nonsense frol the Leave campaigns?
The EP website even has a section on 'urban myths' (joke statements made by the UK and other countries over the years). humour in otherr countries is quite different and can be very cutting and accurate at times.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-britain-economy-rishi-sunak-b2546896.html

You will get posters saying Brexit is still and always was a good idea but will be unable or unwilling to demonstrate concrete results, citing it's a "long game."

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What can I say ? Some people are thick.

Ah but can people in the EU have their wine in a pint glass with a crown from the pint sized bottle that is hailed as another brexit benefit?

Well, dining with Germans in Germany last week I tried to explain the absurdity of the 'crown' marking on glasses, using the markings on the 0.4 litre beer glass I was holding which had the obligatory line (level) and the fact it represents 0.4 litres and of course others with smaller glasses having different markings and he thought it was crazy that having a 'crown' was so important to the english. the importance is the line and telling you WHAT it refers to. Of course you ask for 'a beer' and if it isn't enough for you at that time, you get another one (how simple and logical)
In 'response' to the idea that Brexiteers are 'thick' I must say that with the various debates about 'rejoining' the EU it seems that the Remainers are not too bright either if they do not understand that 'Rejoin' is not going to be an option for decades as the UK first has to decide almost unanimously that it WANTS to join (demonstrable to the EU) tHEN formally ASK to apply for membership and then again WAIT for a unanimous vote by the then existing EU members, any of which may veto an application for any reason so in summary the UK just has top 'suck it up ' and get over Brexit as best it can. The whingers STILL bellyaching that they didn't get the Brexit they wanted are simply delaying any possible attempt to join as eU members are watching the antics of the UK (if the UK is deemed interesting enough) although in general I feel (from Europe) that Brexit is mostly done and former dealings with the UK have become mere memories of the past. particularly pignant in Northern France as we gear up for the D day Debarquement events. The insular Brits (the ones that have never considered others) simply haven't a clue.

Oh dear. Seems the clickabaiters have twigged that highlighting Brexit failures is a route to money. Irreversible.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-s-broken-promises-19-lies-that-failed-to-materialize/ss-BB1lXTql#image=2

@IItisymoi Also bear in mind that many of the deep underlying damage of Brexit has not become apparent yet.

So, at least you acknowledge that project fear was wrong. UK was meant to have lost 500,000-800,000 jobs and GDP reduced by 4% in Q3 of 2018.

And so it begins

@DuncinToffee

The next target will be the open border in Ireland. Dodgy meat from corrupt sources in the EU can be shipped to Ireland without check as everyone assumes that all EU members play ball.

Once in Ireland, it can cross the open border into the UK. The same can happen in the other direction too as once in NI it can be transported to ROI without check and to anywhere else in the EU.

@IItisymoiAlso bear in mind that many of the deep underlying damage of Brexit has not become apparent yet.

So, at least you acknowledge that project fear was wrong. UK was meant to have lost 500,000-800,000 jobs and GDP reduced by 4% in Q3 of 2018.

NO Read my lips, 'Project Fear' is being proven to be project reality but simply that the timing of various 'events' was incorrect for the simple reason that there never was a PLAN to achieve anything IF the Leave campaigns 'won'. The ERG have largely got 'their way' as their plan was Diaster capitalism although the scale had probably not been considered at the time of the referendum where probably a few members of the ERG would make a 'quick buck' as indeed mant did (shorting the Pound) and 'betting' on various outcomes effecctively with insider knowledge. The 10% hit to the value of the pound was simply loose change for some BUT the EFFECTS of this hit takes TIME to ripple through.
The stock markets change overnight literally BUT the real effects of the stock trading only occur when companies close becquse their funding and investments falter.

The next target will be the open border in Ireland. Dodgy meat from corrupt sources in the EU can be shipped to Ireland without check as everyone assumes that all EU members play ball.
Well this is a problem for Globetrotter PERSONALLY to address because he/she KNEW the terms of the Good Friday Agreement and had therefore thought of, and IMPLEMENTED a WORKABLE scenario where both the GFA 'open border' AND the WTO regulations about checks across frontiers between TRADING blocks can Both be true (Hint it was for Northern Ireland to stay IN the EU and the border controls go in the sea between thye UK and Northern Ireland),

@IItisymoi NO Read my lips, 'Project Fear' is being proven to be project reality but simply that the timing of various 'events' was incorrect for the simple reason that there never was a PLAN to achieve anything IF the Leave campaigns 'won'

The treasury report stated that UK was meant to have lost 500,000-800,000 jobs and GDP reduced by 4% in between Q3 2016 and Q2 2018 whilst the UK was still in the EU purely by a vote to leave before anything actually happened. The link is:

HM Treasury analysis: the long-term economic impact of EU membership and the alternatives (publishing.service.gov.uk)

The most recent forecast I remember is that UK's GDP will be 4% lower by 2035.

The person who put the referendum on the table, David Cameron a remain supporter, was responsible for making a plan if the result of the referendum was to leave the EU. He did not even though he stated the government would implement what people decided on 23 June 2016.

BUT the real effects of the stock trading only occur when companies close becquse their funding and investments falter.

Companies closing and new ones opening happens all the time as the World changes and technologies advance. For example, since 1986 many UK banks have closed thousands of branches due to changing customer habits and the introduction of ATM and internet banking, but as companies they are still trading. Same has happened all over the World.

Well this is a problem for Globetrotter PERSONALLY to address because he/she KNEW the terms of the Good Friday Agreement and had therefore thought of, and IMPLEMENTED a WORKABLE scenario where both the GFA 'open border' AND the WTO regulations about checks across frontiers between TRADING blocks can Both be true.

The BIC (British Irish Council) was formed in 1998 to monitor how changes in EU may affect the North or South, but they too did nothing when in:

December 2009 when EU Article 50 was passed

January 2013 when Cameron said there would be a referendum if he won the next GE

May 2015 when Cameron was re-elected.

June 2016 when the referendum produced a vote to leave.

(Hint it was for Northern Ireland to stay IN the EU and the border controls go in the sea between thye UK and Northern Ireland)

Reference was made to goods being shipped direct from the EU to ROI, not to goods from the UK.

Dodgy meat from corrupt sources in the EU can be shipped to Ireland without check as everyone assumes that all EU members play ball.

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The most recent forecast I remember is that UK's GDP will be 4% lower by 2035.

Brilliant! So after another 11 years the UK might not be so bad BUT JRM stated on tV that Shoes and food WOULD BE CHEAPER the day after the referendum in 2016 which has NOT happenedand the 'deals' (lack of) and the financial stability of the UK has meant that tgoods are ever more EXPENSIVE and the trend is that it is getting worse simply because the fanfiful thinking of 'Leave voters' and their reluctance to get off their backsides and invest in the UK (by working harder and longer as necessary, but instead WAIT for some magical being to save them.
Has Globe taken her/himself to training classes to learn a foreign language and trading rules so they can go to the CPTTP counyties to pitch for new exciting trade opportunities? It is an easy bet that they haven't, BUT this is apparently what Brexit was for, to open the door to worldwide trade where in reality the world is moving on without the UK. In former times such traitors as Globe would be imprisoned and ultimately executed for not toeing the 'party line' (Austria 1942). Yes I have beein learning French intensively and continue to work across the EU and further afield although made more difficult by the likes of Globe.

Hi Hanibal. Is that haloumi cheese and Italian breadsticks you have in your word salad picture? Fench beans?