Is anyone still saying Brexit is good for the economy?

[Kendodd]

And does anyone still believe them if they are?

I have sensed a shift, and that Leave supporters are now saying that they knew Brexit would damage the economy but wanted it anyway. Better to lose on your own than win as part of a team.

Economists for Brexit seem to have disappeared.

Yes think brexit is good

Yaaaawn

Most Leave voters DO think Brexit is still the best thing ever, I'm not suggesting anyone has changed their mind or regrets it. People do seem to have stopped saying it will boost the economy though. Brexit supporting politicians don't even seem to be arguing with the cost of 4% figure anymore. Or at least I don't hear it, which doesn't mean they are not still saying Brexit turbocharged the economy and we're all richer for it.

Thats right Many of them just used for their own gain as they knew we would vote Leave They took a gamble and won and now they are richer So have course they have gone

@richardjoshua reported

It's disheartening to see some exploit the Leave vote for personal gain, and while many still stand by Brexit, the economic narrative seems to have shifted. The silence on the once-prominent 4% boost figure raises questions about the ongoing discourse around the economic impact of Brexit 😑.

Today figures from the United Nations Trade Conference showed the UK became the fourth largest exporter behind China, the US and Germany. Meaning we have overtaken France, the Netherlands and Japan in the last year. Since the trade barrier removal it has meant the UK gained 15 billion pounds over 5 years and we have secured 70 free trade agreements since leaving EU and joined the Pan Pacific Free Trade Agreement.

@Kendodd note new figures released today.

Oh bore off with your propaganda.

caringcarer
Having a 'trade deal' is NOTHING if you don't have the manpower (personpower) materials and customers lined up. Therefore it is up to UK enterprises to actually DO the work not wait around like most have done for all the years since the 2016 referendum. Have YOU personally gone over to any of the CPTTP member co=untries with your sales presentations and come back with a client list and started to produce? If not you are too late because EU companies will already be there with at least part of the process already agreed.

Factual post. It's in the oppistions interest to slag of the government.
If you feel any gov is doing you a favour, thenik again as they are in it for themslelves

I can only assume you're reading the Daily Heil article.

Which literally says:

"[ONS] added that, after adjusting for inflation, the UK imported & exported less in 2023 than it did in 2018."

You have to read all the way to the final few paras, but the truth is in there despite all the bullshit...

Take a look at:

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?q=www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-economy-grows-by-06-first-quarter-ons-data-shows-2024-05-10/&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjJ0q_ApY2GAxXMgP0HHXFzDUwQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QsLSkaK4rL7DUQ1zG9S2X" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/url?q=www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-economy-grows-by-06-first-quarter-ons-data-shows-2024-05-10/&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwjJ0q_ApY2GAxXMgP0HHXFzDUwQFnoECBwQAQ&usg=AOvVaw3QsLSkaK4rL7DUQ1zG9S2X

UK growth is higher than that of the EU and the US.

You're no CutnPasteOva - you can't even get an irrelevant link right...

It's all been so good...

That's a rather blinkered view of trade that ignores our export in goods, which has fallen 17% (and brings actual economic value) and includes things like trade in precious metals which doesn't.

We were already the world's 2nd highest exporter of services before Brexit and the growth in service exports is a global phenomenon rather than a result of Brexit.

So goods exports down 17% services up 19%. Value to the economy 15 billion over 5 years, loss to the economy through output 100 billion a year.

I don't think our exports are going to be getting better if this is what people come to expect...

But hey, we're still world beaters in money laundering!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/14/nearly-40-of-dirty-money-is-laundered-in-london-and-uk-crown-dependenies

No one talks about it at all. It's become the elephant in the room. A sad nasty time in British history that few people want to recount or remember. No, of course it hasn't. We've become a poorer and more vulnerable nation because of it.

Try this link:

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/grossdomesticproductgdp/bulletins/gdpfirstquarterlyestimateuk/januarytomarch2024

Where are the jobs and higher wages to reflect this growth?
All Brexit has done is to remove some employees rights = exploration & higher profits for the big fish.
We are really at the beginning of an self-inflicted economic downturn.
We has seen nothing yet, a slow degradation of rights with smokescreen is the future for us. Oh and did I mention the rules and regulations around environmental impact?
and not to forget blue passport and be finger prined like a criminal on the EU's borders

The problem with the UK (brexiteers) treating 'statistics' from the 'news outlets' as a rat race is that even if you win, you are still a rat.
Life experience is not a competition and yoàu can be very poor but happy if you are with ones you love and have decent health. Talk guidelines say I have to be respectful so I would duly, respectfully give any Brexiteers a damn good kicking for what they knowingly did, and are continuing to do to the lives of so many in the UK (and British citizens who are not necessarily in the UK).

@IItisymoi here here

Its probably been very good for a very small group of people and terrible for the rest of us.

@IItisymoi give any Brexiteers a damn good kicking for what they knowingly did, and are continuing to do to the lives of so many in the UK (and British citizens who are not necessarily in the UK).

How many is “so many”? Never forget the following facts:

More people voted to Leave than Remain in 2016.

498 UK lawmakers (MPs) voted to trigger Article 50.

The opportunity to revoke Brexit was presented in the 2019 general election, but the electorate chose otherwise and Conservatives won with a majority.

Labour seems likely to win the next general election, but have ruled out an application to rejoin the EU.