Westministenders: This is not the Brexit we voted for

[ListeningQuietly]

UK Shellfish industry destroyed because our inshore waters are not clean enough
Welsh Ports on their knees because the Land Bridge has found another route
Horticulture seed producers lost all of their mainland EU customers

Antique dealers lost access to their suppliers
Small businesses being told (by UK Govt) to relocate to the EU to avoid red tape
Brits in the EU discovering that stopping Free Movement applies to them too
Northern Ireland in Unionist flames because there is a border between them and Great Britain, but not the Republic
And the UK has still not taken control of its borders

Brexit is shaping up as predicted, but none of those who voted for it seem to have what they wanted

I think a couple of threads ago C&Pova actually gave some of it's personal opinions. And they were just as ghastly as you'd expect from a Brexshittier...

I wish I was a bot, then I'd get paid for wasting all my time on MN.

AuldAlliance OTH, no one could ever mistake my verbose, frantically punctuated sentences for those of a bot

That’s obviously what they want us to think. You’re probably the new, upgraded model. Clav is the old version and will be retired shortly.

Mince alors, I 'ave been unmasked.
All this time masquerading as a Scot in the South, only to be outed.

Although the -ova bit does imply that it's female at least...

@prettybird

I scroll past ignore CnPova's posts as I never find that his or her posts ever contribute to the discussion . And judging by the recent replies to him or her, that hasn't changed .

^^This, theres just not enough time in a day to read tenuous links that do nothing but try to advance a bad faith argument, so like prettybird I just scroll on by and gauge whatever nonsense its been spouting by others replies

Today's depressingly accurate summary
chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/

I agree it's depressing LQ. Why if Brexit is a success do Leavers need to rewrite their history?

Nobody is trying to rewrite history.
And for the record I'm not a bot

Chris Grey hits the spot with this bit
One, quite sensible, reading of the referendum result would have been that the answer the public, considered as a single entity, gave to the question posed was ‘we don’t know’. The biggest scandal of Brexit is that this was then taken as an endorsement for almost the hardest form of Brexit imaginable. But what if, with that having been enacted, the settled view of ‘common sense’ public opinion remains ‘we don’t know’?

www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2021/0416/1210239-brexit/
It's understood that the IT system in the UK is not yet fully ready to handle goods entering Northern Ireland from Great Britain, and for goods entering Great Britain from the EU.
France and Belgium and Spain and the Netherlands and Ireland
have been ready
and using their systems for months.
THe UK, that VOTED FOR THE CHANGE is still not ready

Nobody is trying to rewrite history.

You may not be personally but I doubt whether you speak for all Leavers.

Obviously I don't speak for all Leavers, nor have I ever claimed to. But I still maintain that nobody is trying to rewrite history.

@ListeningQuietly

Chris Grey hits the spot with this bit One, quite sensible, reading of the referendum result would have been that the answer the public, considered as a single entity, gave to the question posed was ‘we don’t know’. The biggest scandal of Brexit is that this was then taken as an endorsement for almost the hardest form of Brexit imaginable. But what if, with that having been enacted, the settled view of ‘common sense’ public opinion remains ‘we don’t know’?

Doesn’t he just.

@yellowspanner

Obviously I don't speak for all Leavers, nor have I ever claimed to. But I still maintain that nobody is trying to rewrite history.

Then you have not read the multiple articles linked by Chris Grey

Anyone who claims, as has been the case here, that the UK went into certain Brexit-related negotiations "in good faith" is rewriting history. Voluntarily or otherwise.

Double disclaimer, born of experience on these threads:
(1) This does not necessarily imply that the EU did go into all negotiations in 100% good faith.
(2) I hereby, avowedly futilely, deploy a very sensitive acorn-hued shield to deflect the inevitable squirrely responses - and a use of adverbial idiom that should hopefully discourage any further accusations that I might be AuldAllianova.)

And that rogue bracket at the end of my post is pure Auld, which no bot can reproduce authentically.

Does that make you a Scot Bot?

Aye.

Other news which will get drowned out by Prince Philip's funeral: Raoul Castro steps down, thus ending the rule of the Castros since the revolution in 1959.

Tongue in cheek but contains quite a few grains of truth re Tory cronyism

I was just looking back at the history, especially the Remain lies that were told during the campaign.
Do you remember George Osborne saying that every household will lose £4300 a year in disposable income? The Treasury figures show that at the end of the first quarter in 2016 average disposable income per household was £5177 and it had risen to £5354 by the end of 2020 when Covid hit.
Or the loss of half a million jobs. Employment had risen by 1M by the time Covid hit.
All conveniently forgotten on here.

@yellowspanner

I was just looking back at the history, especially the Remain lies that were told during the campaign. Do you remember George Osborne saying that every household will lose £4300 a year in disposable income? The Treasury figures show that at the end of the first quarter in 2016 average disposable income per household was £5177 and it had risen to £5354 by the end of 2020 when Covid hit. Or the loss of half a million jobs. Employment had risen by 1M by the time Covid hit. All conveniently forgotten on here.

In the same way that you've conveniently forgotten that brexit didn't happen until 2021?