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Westministenders: This is not the Brexit we voted for

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ListeningQuietly · 08/04/2021 12:06

UK Shellfish industry destroyed because our inshore waters are not clean enough
Welsh Ports on their knees because the Land Bridge has found another route
Horticulture seed producers lost all of their mainland EU customers

Antique dealers lost access to their suppliers
Small businesses being told (by UK Govt) to relocate to the EU to avoid red tape
Brits in the EU discovering that stopping Free Movement applies to them too
Northern Ireland in Unionist flames because there is a border between them and Great Britain, but not the Republic
And the UK has still not taken control of its borders

Brexit is shaping up as predicted, but none of those who voted for it seem to have what they wanted

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pointythings · 13/04/2021 07:51

I think my posting style is probably best described as frivolous/angry. But then I'm not very knowledgeable on these boards so I tend to lurk more. I post a lot on 'I have an addict for a partner' type threads (because personal experience) and tend towards tough love there.

KonTikki · 13/04/2021 08:52

My personal stile tends toowards
Bad spelling non existant gramer and lots of !!!

borntobequiet · 13/04/2021 09:02

@KonTikki
Bonus points for the multiple exclamation marks though throwing in a random question mark as well always adds to the effect!!?!

prettybird · 13/04/2021 09:08

My personal style involves an excessive use of strike throughs it's my alternative to parentheses and/or passive/aggressive sarcasm Wink

pointythings · 13/04/2021 09:32

KonTikki I want a personal stile now, so I can get over my personal fences.

borntobequiet · 13/04/2021 09:44

I think you mean your personal fence’s.

pointythings · 13/04/2021 09:46

borntobequiet stop being pendantic.

borntobequiet · 13/04/2021 09:55
pointythings · 13/04/2021 10:02

I just want to say pacifically that I disagree with all this bad spelling.

Peregrina · 13/04/2021 10:07

You all surely need one of these ‽
Or for those of you inclined to Spanish ⸘verdad‽

borntobequiet · 13/04/2021 10:20

Let’s not fight about it, pointy.

pointythings · 13/04/2021 10:27

Shall we fight about Oxford commas instead? I'm not fussed.

longwayoff · 13/04/2021 10:37

So depressing. Everything unfolding just as predicted which makes it feel no better. I am so ashamed that we have a Prime Minister, and his weaselly supporters, who have happily thrown NI under the bus. History won't be kind to them.

HannibalHayes · 13/04/2021 10:48

@pointythings

Shall we fight about Oxford commas instead? I'm not fussed.
Aren't they now the AstraZenica commas?
Peregrina · 13/04/2021 11:08

I too feel very depressed about the NI situation, and think it's a tragedy that a generation who have been growing up after the Troubles, have been sucked in. Which suggests that they have been egged on by adults who should know better.

However the last few days have also for me brought about the realisation that if Ireland did re-unite there would still be bad feelings from those who didn't want it, which would continue to fester. Re-unification would be the British Government pulling its usual trick, as it did when disbanding the Empire, of cutting and running.

I feel angry because the GFA was something of a fudge but a workable one, and Johnson and chums neither knew nor cared about the situation. For all Clavinova's cut n' pastes about how talks are now happening between the EU and UK over NI, Johnson still hasn't seen fit to go to NI. Does he not realise he is PM there too, or is it only when votes matter?Gove was against the GFA so most certainly did know. He's mighty quiet now, I notice.

TheElementsSong · 13/04/2021 11:21

My personal style is, um, comma-heavy.

PawFives · 13/04/2021 12:43

YY Peregrina it’s always a bit worrying when Gove drops off the radar - what’s he up to?

TheSandman · 13/04/2021 12:44

So depressing. Everything unfolding just as predicted which makes it feel no better. I am so ashamed that we have a Prime Minister, and his weaselly supporters, who have happily thrown NI under the bus. History won't be kind to them.

Not just NI. They've thrown everything under a bus apart from their own short term interests.

Copperas · 13/04/2021 12:53

I thinks it’s deliberate. Carpet bagging. Farewell to all those rights gained over the years. Why don’t people care?

QueenOfThorns · 13/04/2021 13:10

@Copperas

I thinks it’s deliberate. Carpet bagging. Farewell to all those rights gained over the years. Why don’t people care?
They don’t care until it directly affects them. And by then, it’s too late Sad
longwayoff · 13/04/2021 13:13

Agree its intentional. If we can see it so can they. Agree not just NI, just so grim to see them out on the streets again. And fully agree that Gove slithering around quietly is worrying. Unless he's cooking up plans to unseat Boris. What a prospect, dont know which is worse. On balance, and it pains me to say it, Boris is probably preferable to Gove. That is a compliment to neither.

Peregrina · 13/04/2021 13:44

Johnson, Gove or even worse - PM Priti Patel!

Good job that she wasn't around back in 1947 or she might have put a stop to the "nation's grandfather" being naturalised as British. Don't want these Greeks of Danish extraction becoming citizens.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 13/04/2021 14:18

prettybird I like strike through. I can't bear when people use it wrong though. Like this...

"Your DH sounds like a lovely man a dickhead "

Hmm the strike through should come first, indicating it's what you want to say but have reconsidered for sake of manners. Makes me irrationally annoyed.

Much like the Conservative party (especially that Parliament of 2019 onwards who are an especially big bag of dicks delights.

Clavinova · 13/04/2021 14:23

Johnson still hasn't seen fit to go to NI. Does he not realise he is PM there too, or is it only when votes matter?

It seems that Boris Johnson visited Northern Ireland on the 12th March - only two/three weeks before the rioting started (rioting prompted by the decision not to prosecute Sinn Fein politicians who attended the Storey funeral).

12 March 2021 -
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has held “frank” conversations with the DUP on the Northern Ireland Protocol as he visited the region. ...

[Arlene] Foster’s powersharing partner, Sinn Fein’s deputy First Minister Michelle O’Neill, refused to welcome the premier to Belfast on Friday in her Stormont role after a request for a political meeting with her and Sinn Fein leader Mary Lou McDonald was not accepted.

I am assuming that a private meeting with Sinn Fein politicians would not have gone down well with the DUP?

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-foster-dup-brexit-extra-b923825.html

Press conference during the visit in March;

Boris Johnson has said the Northern Ireland Protocol is not operating in the way he envisaged.

The Prime Minister said he did not think arrangements he agreed with the EU would involve restrictions on the movements of food products such as sausages, on parcel deliveries and on soil from Great Britain entering Northern Ireland.

He said the protocol was operating in an imbalanced way and was causing irritation to the loyalist and unionist community in Northern Ireland as a consequence.

In a virtual press conference on a visit to the region, Mr Johnson said: “It needs to be corrected, you can’t have a situation in which soil or parcels or tractors with mud on their tyres or whatever are prevented from moving easily from one part of the UK to another – it’s all one United Kingdom.”

He said the protocol was an act of “good neighbourliness” by the UK towards Ireland and the EU to stop goods moving into the single market in an “uncontrolled way”.

During Brexit negotiations, debate centred on which products from Great Britain were at risk of continuing from Northern Ireland into the rest of the EU tariff-free.

The UK argued that goods like supermarket deliveries intended for Northern Ireland should be exempted from extra paperwork and declarations.

Mr Johnson said the protocol was necessitating more processes and checks than it should and that is why the Government moved to delay its implementation until longer term solutions are found with the EU. ...

Mr Johnson reiterated his warning that he would move to suspend elements of the protocol – by invoking Article 16 to the arrangements – if it proved impossible to resolve current issues.

Stormont First Minister Arlene Foster said everything coming into Northern Ireland from Great Britain was going through checks despite very few of those goods going on to the EU.

She told BBC Radio 4’s PM programme: “It is not a proportionate action to take, to check everything going through because so little goes on into the Republic of Ireland.”

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-prime-minister-government-great-britain-arlene-foster-b923894.html

Brandon Lewis, the Northern Ireland Secretary held talks in NI on the 8th April. Personally I don't think Boris Johnson needed to return to NI in person so soon after his last visit - no doubt he is in contact by phone/zoom.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/08/northern-ireland-executive-holds-emergency-meeting-unrest-belfast

Meanwhile, back in the 1700s...

January 2013 -

Children's role in Belfast flag riots 'deeply worrying.'

Northern Ireland children's commissioner warns children in serious physical danger and could get criminal convictions.

Ten- and 11-year olds involved in the violent loyalist flag dispute are being put in serious physical danger, Northern Ireland's advocate for children's rights has warned.

www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/jan/07/children-belfast-flag-riots