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Westministenders: Festive Edition

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RedToothBrush · 22/12/2020 21:00

Good King BBBBaBoris looked out,
on the Port of Dover,
There the shit lay round about,
Deep around the stopover;
Brightly shone the moon that night,
Tho’ the frost was cruel,
When a poor man came in sight,
Delivering stuff for Yule.

“Bugger SAGE and stand by me,
We've all stuff that needs selling,
Yonder peasant, who is he?
Where and what his dwelling?”
“Sire, he lives a good league hence,
The other side the EU;
Though relations maybe tense,
He's trying to get goods through.”

“Oh god I need another wine,
I have many crisis to consider:
We must tell them its all fine,
I must not be seen to dither.”
SAGE and monarch, forth they went,
forth they went together;
Through the nation's sad lament
and really crappy weather.

“Sire, our plight is darker now,
And the covid transmission stronger;
Fails my heart, I know not how;
To keep Tier 2 much longer.”
“Soon we can drop their wage.
And treat them all more coldly
In Britain's new chrony age
A time to rob more boldly.”

In their master’s steps they trod,
On the quest to get minted;
Each and every last sod
Needs to be fingerprinted.
Therefore, Christian men, be sure,
DWP claimants are processing,
Ye who now will bless the poor,
God its all so depressing.

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SabrinaThwaite · 30/12/2020 14:14

Kirsty Blackman just called Johnson’s deal “a mug of excrement”. I think she really wanted to call it “a mug of shite” though Grin

SabrinaThwaite · 30/12/2020 14:15

Ha - xpost 😁

52andblue · 30/12/2020 14:15

@PussyCatInChristmasStockings

careful, I just got told off about being Clown-ist in another thread when I compared HandCock and The Boy Gav to clowns...

Mistigri · 30/12/2020 14:19

Boris and the boys are allowed to get away with their cronyism by saying "we're elected, donchaknow ? We can do whatever we like "

It doesn't really matter how "angry" people like Louise are. They'll still vote Tory, so that's all that matters.

I think this is a very important point. Boiling the frog and all that. I can believe that Louise is, in RL, a person who prides herself on having a strong moral stance. And yet she'll never condemn impropriety and (let's call a spade a spade) fraud when it's done by the party she supports.

TokyoSushi · 30/12/2020 14:22

Gove starting out in ultimate smarm mode today!

DGRossetti · 30/12/2020 14:23

I can believe that Louise is, in RL, a person who prides herself on having a strong moral stance.

Don't confuse "immovable" with "strong". When your leaders become criminals, the "moral" trick is to call them out as such, and find leaders that aren't criminals. Not redefine "criminality" as "something my lot don't do".

I have no doubt a lot of Germans were also strongly moral during Hitlers reign. Didn't butter any parsnips or save many untermensch though.

Mistigri · 30/12/2020 14:27

I'm not confusing anything. I imagine that Louise was one of the Tories who was genuinely unhappy about the sleaze during the final Thatcher years and the Major government. I imagine that she was also outraged at excessive expense claims by MPs.

But these frogs have been gradually boiled, and now she and many other upright citizens are prepared to look away while the government trashes the rule of law and conventions around financial propriety.

52andblue · 30/12/2020 14:28

@ListeningQuietly

DGR Even more reason then that the opposition parties should challenge as much as they can during the debating time and then not lower themselves to voting either way on the charade

If they vote against it they are blocking the will of the people

If they vote for it they are enabling a Tory Brexit

Better to stand back and let the whole thing be on Tory heads

ASK YOUR MP TO ABSTAIN if you are able

Agree, an Abstention Vote is the only moral option here.

I've emailed my MP. She's a Tory cabinet minister. Hey ho...

PussyCatInChristmasStockings · 30/12/2020 14:29

52 I saw that.😂
Unfortunately, if it looks like a 🤡 and behaves like a 🤡 it's not a 🦆
😉

PussyCatInChristmasStockings · 30/12/2020 14:32

Sabrina at some point she did start to say "sh.." and changed it to excrement. Halo Grin

Mistigri · 30/12/2020 14:35

You lot watching the "debate" (hint: it's not a debate) are masochists. Take a break! It's a done deal. Focus on how to win the argument in five years time.

TheElementsOfMedical · 30/12/2020 14:39

twitter.com/redhistorian/status/1344228458143113216?s=20

MPs will have at most four minutes to speak on a trade agreement covering more than 1,200 pages. Few will have had time to read it anyway, and their votes will mostly be cast by the Whips...

Today's legislation doesn't just transform our trade relations... it gives ministers the power to rewrite vast swathes of domestic law without further scrutiny. It is a massive transfer of power from Parliament to the Executive...

It is very doubtful, watching today's proceedings, whether the UK can still accurately be described as a "parliamentary democracy". It is, increasingly, an "executive democracy", in which the largest party doesn't just dominate Parlt, but actively removes it from decision-making...

Ministers have indeed "taken back control" - not from "Europe", but from Parliament.

SwedishEdith · 30/12/2020 14:39

@Mistigri

Truss is the polar opposite of what women should see as role models - she is someone who got where she has by having no principles, no particular competence, and who has become popular by never sticking her head above the parapet.

The covid crisis in particular has provided some much more admirable, competent and human role models for us.

Truss is a weird one. From wiki: She was raised in a left-wing household: her father is a professor of pure mathematics at the University of Leeds, while her mother was a nurse, teacher, and member of the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. Truss has described both as being "to the left of Labour". When Truss later ran for election to Parliament, her mother agreed to campaign for her while her father declined to do so.

I mean, I'm on her dad's side here (obviously).

Affair with Mark Field (10 years older).

Campaigned for Remain and now full on Brexiteer. I see her as someone who lacks any conviction except her own personal ambition.

Quite a revealing interview with her - I'm not picking up much wit or a sense of humour.

www.you.co.uk/liz-truss-interview-2019/

mrslaughan · 30/12/2020 14:40

I am way behind - but not sure if this thread has been shared on implications of the bill - reducing Parliamentary sovereignty.....

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1344072870377517056.html

SabrinaThwaite · 30/12/2020 14:40

It’s been an interesting debate (if you ignore the usual Johnson suck ups and flag-waving Little Englanders).

DS says he misses Bercow’s bombast though.

LouiseCollins28 · 30/12/2020 14:44

I have condemned impropriety from all comers and will continue to in future. Boris attempting to prorouge parliamnent for example was deplorable. I also supported Gina Miller in her determination that Parliament should have a role in deciding the Brexit outcome, even though she was trying to frustrate an outcome I have waited my whole adult life to see.

PussyCatInChristmasStockings · 30/12/2020 14:47

Sabrina Your DS is not alone. I miss Bercow (and his flamingos) too.

Mistigri I'm just filling time until Hancock, Williamson and BoJo turn up...

DGRossetti · 30/12/2020 14:48

@LouiseCollins28

I have condemned impropriety from all comers and will continue to in future. Boris attempting to prorouge parliamnent for example was deplorable. I also supported Gina Miller in her determination that Parliament should have a role in deciding the Brexit outcome, even though she was trying to frustrate an outcome I have waited my whole adult life to see.
Which means nothing if you vote Tory though.

Tories don't mind people being jolly cross - in fact they probably realise it's the default position.

The irony is, it's the people that unquestioningly vote Tory that are the first to be shafted by them.

Mistigri · 30/12/2020 14:48

Campaigned for Remain and now full on Brexiteer. I see her as someone who lacks any conviction except her own personal ambition.

Yes I agree with this pretty much word for word. And in some respects, she has made clever choices. She plainly isn't quite stupid as her public persona. But the idea that clever women playing stupid for gammon points should be considered role models - yuck.

Mistigri · 30/12/2020 14:49

She's an anti role model. I don't want my daughter to believe that women have to play dumb to get on.

Mistigri · 30/12/2020 14:51

I'm just filling time until Hancock, Williamson and BoJo turn up...

That is so masochistic it's positively kinky Grin

I hope you are playing Brexit bingo at least. Hic!

SwedishEdith · 30/12/2020 14:53

I'm not watching any of it - not good for mental health - but just saw this on Twitter

Roland Smith
@rolandmcs

Owen Paterson who supported the Norway Option in 2014-15 before becoming radicalised is now concerned that a Hard Brexit will divide the UK.

Gotta laugh really.
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Eleni Courea
@EleniCourea

Owen Paterson is the first Tory MP to reveal he will rebel

He says is "torn" but he will abstain tonight because of his concerns over Northern Ireland

"I'd love to vote for this today but I really can't vote for a measure which actually divides the United Kingdom

CendrillonSings · 30/12/2020 14:55

A glorious 521 to 73, majority of 448. Starmer humbled, Boris triumphant.

Merry Brexit, everyone! Smile

Peregrina · 30/12/2020 14:57

He says is "torn" but he will abstain tonight because of his concerns over Northern Ireland

Is this a stirring of a conscience? If so, it's good to see.