Predictions of how day-to-day life will change post-Brexit?

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Do you think there be many impacts? I imagine that those with jobs linked directly to the EU will find their lives very different, but for the average Joe I’m envisioning:

• Rise in prices in general, especially imports
• Holidays much more expensive (either due to the extra things needed to go abroad, or due to the new increased demand for U.K. holidays)
• More immigrants from Asia and Africa as opposed to Europe (although I think that’ll mainly be felt in the cities)

It’s hard to envision post-Brexit life.

Non EU food price increase and lack of itens available
.seasonal British produce more readily available....i feel potatoes will be my staple

Increase price of meat

Agree holiday both uk and abroad more expensive

Disruption and a crash in stock market

I think for most people, after the first 6 weeks to 3 months, there won't be much difference. Why would holidays be much more expensive? The only difference will be travel insurance in EU countries, just as if you were going on holiday to a non-EU country like lots of people do already. We won't be paying for visas.

Some prices, especially fresh products like veg, will go up, but only for things imported from the EU. There'll be some temporary shortages of some imports.

The main noticeable difference will be for the small minority of British citizens who would otherwise have been able to live and work in the EU easily without visas.

For holidays, Covid-19 will have made far far bigger difference - airlines going bust, hotels closing, some dates cheaper if you risk not being allowed to go, etc. etc.

Global pandemic will also have a much greater effect on the currency and stock markets. Although an announcement of definitely no-deal I imagine will make the pound drop in value and be bad news finacially in other ways.

Some items will be more expensive, especially food, and there might be less choice available.

When travelling to the EU, travel health insurance will be more expensive, as we’ll no longer be treated the same as EU citizens.

UK universities will be less attractive to EU students, as they’ll now be classed as overseas students and will need to pay higher tuition fees. Also, they may not be able to get student jobs to help with their living costs.

London will lose its position as the financial capital of Europe. It won’t happen overnight, but I do think it’s almost inevitable.

@FiveFootTwoEyesOfBlue

Very true about COVID having a bigger impact on airlines, sometimes it’s like when I think about Brexit I completely forget about it

All food will be more expensive and in short term less available (everyone suddenly swapping from an EU product to something UK grown will lead to short term shortages there too, even if in the longer term the plan is to grow more).

Increased labour costs for picking UK fruit and veg (currently very reliant on migrant labour with minimal paperwork needed) mean longer term price increases.

-Collapse of small to medium farming industries
-Rise of Mega farms

• local economy in Hollyhead, Fishguard will be devastated
• car industry will slow down in the next 10 years
• Northern Ireland will align with ROI, Scotland might go nuclear and leave the union. Jerseyfication of England and Wales. When the time comes that England and Wales want to join EU, EU will say no.
• UK becomes a tax haven country- the disparity between the many poor and the few rich will widen.
• The Queen will die. Is the monarchy still relevant after this?

Aside from price rises, I think the shops are going to be a whole lot emptier than we have seen before.

I went shopping in a medium sized se town today, in places like tk maxx and curry’s there were big chunks of empty shelves. Obvs it’s the time of year too, but this seemed quite a bit more stark than I’ve seen previous years.

Travel will definitely be more difficult. No EHIC so more expensive travel insurance, which will make it more difficult for older people and those with health conditions to travel. Green cards required for car insurance abroad, international driving permits, of which France and Spain (as two popular countries) have different requirements. Not being able to use the EU passport gates. Not being able to take your pets abroad with you - I have never had a dog myself, but have seen the ferries load up with large numbers of people who do take their dogs abroad.

Visas? Probably not straight away.

Why would holidays be much more expensive?
The cost of holidays will or may be affected by:

-value of the pound against the euro
-purchasing power of UK citizens in a post-Brexit economy
-health insurance costs after the end of EHIC
-cost of international driving licence if taking a car to the EU
-visa costs

If they all come into play, the cumulative increase will be noticeable.

-Price rises resulting in reduced consumption
-Holidays cost more so fewer people can have them
Both will result in increased sustainability and will be more environmentally friendly.

-People holidaying in the UK and supporting British businesses
-Increased incentive to Buy British
-Less competition for unskilled jobs resulting in more employment for British workers
All contribute to improved employment conditions and more profit for small businesses.

Best we can hope for now is a slow decline. Price rises and disruption in the immediate weeks after. However, the port disruption does depend on people actually bothering to send lorries out to sit in massive queues and car parks. They very well may not = shortages, but clearish roads.

@AuldAlliance

Why would holidays be much more expensive? The cost of holidays will or may be affected by:

-value of the pound against the euro
-purchasing power of UK citizens in a post-Brexit economy
-health insurance costs after the end of EHIC
-cost of international driving licence if taking a car to the EU
-visa costs

If they all come into play, the cumulative increase will be noticeable.

value of the pound against euro The pound has been low against other currencies for some time already, although it may well drop initially, as I mentioned. purchasing power of UK citizens in a post-Brexit economy What does that even mean, other than the above? health insurance costs Yes, as I mentioned costs of international driving licence if taking a car to the EU £5.50 visa costs Nope. If you’re a tourist, you will not need a visa for short trips to most EU countries, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. You’ll be able to stay for up to 90 days in any 180-day period. - from Eurotunnel website.

What does that even mean, other than the above?

I think due to both businesses being unable to operate (in a no deal scenario) resulting in job losses, and also the fact everything will be more expensive here in the U.K.....

will result in less money available for holidays and travel for many people.

purchasing power of UK citizens in a post-Brexit economy
What does that even mean, other than the above?

It means that for inabitants of a country whose economy is in decline, where food and other prices rise and there is higher unemployment, more zero hours contracts, etc., then average purchasing power falls, so holidays abroad represent a higher proportion of their income.

Prices rises. Not just in retail but in everything that needs stuff to generate stuff. If we're lucky that's all it will be

@DonkeyMcFluff

-Price rises resulting in reduced consumption -Holidays cost more so fewer people can have them Both will result in increased sustainability and will be more environmentally friendly.

-People holidaying in the UK and supporting British businesses
-Increased incentive to Buy British
-Less competition for unskilled jobs resulting in more employment for British workers
All contribute to improved employment conditions and more profit for small businesses.

Not thought any of that through have you?

But didn't you cheer when you thought your former employer would struggle post brexit?

As of midnight tonight the UK is an island again

Just in Time Freight from France and Belgium has effectively now stopped till Christmas
and thus until Brexit day

welcome to the world y'all voted for

"Visa costs
Nope.
If you’re a tourist, you will not need a visa for short trips to most EU countries, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland. You’ll be able to stay for up to 90 days in any 180-day period. - from Eurotunnel website."

Until 2022 - then UK citizens will have to use the ETIAS visa waiver scheme, to travel to Europe for the purposes of tourism, business, or transit for a 90 days stay in any 180-day period, cost currently 7 euros per adult, valid for 3 years. See map here etias.com/what-is-etias/who-needs-etias

It's all very well saying "it's only £5.50 for an international driving licence."

For two adult drivers that's immediately £11.00. Add on the costs of a visa waiver €7 each, so €14, no EHIC - so whatever extra your travel insurance company adds on. You can see how quickly the costs mount up.

For a country which supposedly holds all the cards, this seems to have been a mighty big failure of their negotiating skills.

Not thought any of that through have you?
I have actually. Stuff is far too cheap and that drives wastage, pollution, landfill and lack of sustainability. Prices need to go up in order to bring consumption down. It can only be a good thing if it’s once again cheaper to repair than to replace.

But didn't you cheer when you thought your former employer would struggle post brexit?
Yep. Twat. I hope he becomes as poor as the people he treated like shit.

Food is currently cheap in the UK, but one of the Brexiters big selling points is how a USA deal will make food cheaper.

No, I would rather see better quality food grown or reared to good agricultural and veterinary standards, with people earning good steady wages to pay for them. So a levelling up, not a race to the bottom. Now didn't Johnson promise a levelling up?

If there is a no deal, major supply chain issues particularly industries such as the car and manufacturing due to JIT problems.

Even more redundancies as businesses either relocate or decide not to invest in the U.K.

Not thought any of that through have you?
I have actually. Stuff is far too cheap and that drives wastage, pollution, landfill and lack of sustainability. Prices need to go up in order to bring consumption down. It can only be a good thing if it’s once again cheaper to repair than to replace

Price rises hit the poor, you also mentioned holidays? UK hols are very expensive, again hits the poor.
The wealthy will still fly 10x per year and still own 2nd homes around the UK and europe.

But didn't you cheer when you thought your former employer would struggle post brexit?

Yep. Twat. I hope he becomes as poor as the people he treated like shit

He won't, he is acting within the law, he will continue to do so post brexit, if anything employment laws will slacken, things like WTD, making it easier for bad employers to do whatever they like.
MW wont increase as much... we know this because Bojo has cut the proposed increase next year.

if the Cons get in again in 2024, i expect MW to be got rid of, together with a raft of employment protections.

We’re going to be getting a taste of what could happen. The French have temporarily closed the Calais to Dover route due to the new Covid problem. That’s 5,000 lorries each way each day which won’t be bringing in or delivering out produce and other goods. Production has already been halted at some car manufacturers due to delays in getting supplies through the ports.