Predictions of how day-to-day life will change post-Brexit?

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Do you think there be many impacts? I imagine that those with jobs linked directly to the EU will find their lives very different, but for the average Joe I’m envisioning:

• Rise in prices in general, especially imports
• Holidays much more expensive (either due to the extra things needed to go abroad, or due to the new increased demand for U.K. holidays)
• More immigrants from Asia and Africa as opposed to Europe (although I think that’ll mainly be felt in the cities)

It’s hard to envision post-Brexit life.

Food will become more expensive - a lot more- on overseas staples like chopped tomatoes, tuna, coconut milk etc
Then all those things they make you done realise like ready means, condiments etc
Then all the byproduct stuff- pet food etc
.... then you add on increased time in shipments and trucking

• issues in international logistics- turkey is a major trucking gateway for clothing, electronics and long line FE product - and we have no trade deal with them now
• quotas- if you haven’t got one as an importer you’re limited on imports
• exports issues the other ways-
• labour supply challenges- it is all possible but a lot less easy

THEN you’re into first world territory issues like holidays...
Etc
Etc

I think lots of problems will be attributed to Covid19 that are actually due to Brexit.

What will happen? Greater polarisation of wealth. Far fewer substantive jobs. Cuts to public sector.
Higher travel costs and travel insurance.
Inflation and more real, hard poverty.
Violence restarting in Norther Ireland.
Power cuts.
Some foods and medicines being less available.
Fewer hotels, restaurants, coffee shops.
Reduction in healthcare for majority.
Nastier, far right, xenophobic attitudes being validated.

Boris Johnson to chair meeting of gov emergency Cobra ctte tomorrow as Covid travel bans hit freight.

“The pm will chair a COBR meeting tomorrow to discuss the situation regarding international travel, in particular the steady flow of freight into and out of the UK.”

And this is before Brexit damage hits.

Buy British. Lolz

Where does your "British" raw materials come from?

I agree with the last comment. I used to work in a British manufacturing plant and the suppliers were all from the EU....bottle from Italy or Germany, cap from France...only the cardboard stuff was UK made. I know for. Fact it's the same with cars. And that's just physical supply. The knowledge economy is much more subtle but no less threatened. I think the long term theme will unfortunately be some really serious devastating closures of industries and job losses.

Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies. Rivers and seas boiling.Forty years of darkness. Earthquakes, volcanoes.
The dead rising from the grave. Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - mass hysteria.

THe UK is just about to find out what life is like without free movement of goods from the EU
by about 7pm tomorrow it will start to bite

Voted for.

Currently there are millions of pounds worth of seafood heading from Scotland to Dover where it will rot at a closed border.

Just one example, and just the beginning.

Britain does not produce enough food to feed itself so more demand for limited resources will result in higher prices. Imports of foodstuffs and raw materials on WTO tariffs equals higher prices. The Bank of England recently stated that Brexit is going to cost the country more than Covid. We also need to keep an eye on the UK's credit rating. Some agencies are giving it a negative outlook. The potential for the UK to borrow money may become more expensive, Coming on top of covid the outlook is not very rosy.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/23/no-deal-brexit-to-cost-more-than-covid-bank-of-england-governor-says
tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/rating

The wealthy will still fly 10x per year and still own 2nd homes around the UK and europe.
That’s fine. It still means 90% of travel has stopped, therefore better for the environment.

@DonkeyMcFluff

The wealthy will still fly 10x per year and still own 2nd homes around the UK and europe. That’s fine. It still means 90% of travel has stopped, therefore better for the environment.

Like i said, you don't think things through.

On what planet do you imagine 90% of flights will stop? even a Pandemic didn't do that but as the RoW will continue unabated, it will do nothing for climate change.

No, business and multiple trips will still occur, only the very bottom of the market will reduce here in the UK.

I run a small business and send a lot of parcels to EU customers. All parcels will need a customs form filled in.

The recipient may have to pay duty on the items which will make them more expensive for them. I expect my sales to fall and my admin will increase.

@BlackForestCake

Currently there are millions of pounds worth of seafood heading from Scotland to Dover where it will rot at a closed border.

Just one example, and just the beginning.

A thousand lorries stuck in Kent and now Hampshire is beginning to block. Just the start of the issues.

What about phone use once in the EU? Don't most phone contracts specify no roaming charges in th EU/ EEA? Genuine question - I haven't seen this mentioned, but isn't it likely these protections will cease?

Roaming phone charges may be reintroduced for U.K. travellers in the EU from 1 January depending on the decision of individual operators.

Roaming charges - something May was crowing about having removed, as I recall. I did send her a snotty letter to tell her it was EU policy.

There are just so many little things like this, that we suddenly realise we no longer have, because they were provided by the EU. And no, the USA or Far East/China won't pick up the slack unless there is something in it for them.

[ quote]The main noticeable difference will be for the small minority of British citizens who would otherwise have been able to live and work in the EU easily without visas.[/ quote]

As noted earlier, you will add a few pounds to every European trip for extra driving licences, visa, insurance.
You will also queue now through the international arrivals, no the EU fast track, and be subject to a higher level of interrogation.

None of my children can now study in Europe, as they could for free before. One was considering studying languages from Germany.

My own company is losing £300k of income, and the accompanying 4 jobs, through the ending of the Erasmus programmes we have been part of for a decade.

None of the UK teachers we work with will have the EU funded programmes encouraging them to learn how education is done elsewhere, or indeed as some did, run exchanges with their pupils (fully funded) to Europe.

The partners we work with have some of the 'small minority' of UK citizens working for them in Italy, France, Germany, Slovenia, Estonia, Spain and Portugal. They are now all applying for the citizenship of their current nation or have moved back to the UK, and for three of them joined the unemployment queue while costing UK taxpayer money.

I also now cannot retire and hike around Europe, as planned, as I can only enter for 90 days then return to UK for 90 days before i can re-enter EU zone.

So my summary: Your two cheap weeks in Spain are fine, so you are ok with thousands loosing jobs, tens of thousands loosing education opportunities, and hundreds being laid off.

Free movement. What ever did the EU do for us, eh?

I am really looking forward to hearing the Leavers whining about the extra costs of holidays, and delays in passport queues, and even finding out that their passport must be no more than 9 years six months old, so possibly getting turned away from their flight to Greece or Spain. It will be blamed on the EU, not on the shit negotiating skills of the Tory Government.

I am really looking forward to hearing the Leavers whining

You love to gloat don’t you Peregrina.

We have a deal.
The list of things we have lost compared with EU membership is very long.

The list of things we have gained is very short (in fact I am still waiting to see it)

Today is relief
not joy

Today is a very sad day for the U.K. Loosing so much. A deal is better than no deal but nothing to celebrate.

I don't see too much, covid has a far greater effect than bfexit has esp around holidays.

If I have to pay £5 -£11 for a kne off visa thats okay I do that for the USA anyway.

Majority of time I've flown to Europe the so called fast track hasn't been fast, been in queues for over an hr before whilst international queue is only a handful. Even if I have to wait no biggie I do that for USA anyway. Its not something I've ever really valued highly.

The new drive towards electric cars is unrelated to brexit and thats a whole host of problems coming down the line like how will they collect tax? Then they are thinking about pay per mile, congestion charges zones in cities across UK not just London.

The covid debt alone is so vast itll wipe out most peoples spare money if taxes went up. Media were reporting something like almost £300 a month if they wanted to pay it off.

Upcoming council tax rises esp in London where recent review of tfl talks about potentially a new charge to add to council tax to pay for public transport. All of this is covid related and nothing to do with brexit.

Increasing taxes whether its income or NI or council tax are whats going to make me worse off.

Majority of time I've flown to Europe the so called fast track hasn't been fast, been in queues for over an hr before whilst international queue is only a handful.

In which case you had the choice of going to the International queue. Now you won't have a choice and it's a matter of luck where the other international flights coming in at the same time are from.

I believe that Covid probably won’t be much of a problem in two years’ time.

But Brexit bloody well will. I know our children will end up paying for it. Our grandchildren might still be paying for it too.

But Brexit bloody well will. I know our children will end up paying for it. Our grandchildren might still be paying for it too.

Tangental to this, I read an interesting article yesterday about how despite German re-unification 30 years ago now, the vestiges of the old DDR still linger. The split in Berlin can be seen in the street lighting with the old East Berlin using sodium and the West using flourescent lighting. Or the tram network - East Berlin rebuilt it after the War, the western part didn't. West Germany as a whole relied on Turkish immigrants so has vastly more mosques than the old east. It went on in this vein.