Westminstenders: a feature of the system not a bug

[RedToothBrush]

Tests on the new queuing system in Kent have revealed that lengthy tail backs are a feature not a bug.

We should get used to them because thats normal not the system malfunctioning, but the planned system working as designed.

Today we have found out that there's no money left. The economy is fucked. And tomorrow we will probably all be in T3 with the Isles of Wight, the tip of Cornwall and inner Westminster the only places left in T1.

Christmas has apparently been 'saved' though. Well if you are dumb and lacking in functional brain cells its 'saved'. Trade for Christmas is already thoroughly goosed and indoor family gatherings may come with a extra side of covid. The BBC have done an epic job of 'doommongering project fear' style graphics on this wonderful subject.

Tis the season to be jolly. Jolly fucked.

Also reducing the impact of being in the EU to how much money you pay or receive is crap.

A bit like saying it’s not worth staying in a marriage because your spouse doesn’t earn enough money, forgetting she is the one who looks after the dcs, does the hw and all the Emotional Labour.

If you believe that the only thing the EU does is to take or receive money' then you need to learn more about the EU really. :(:(

(And yes I remember a few conversations where I had to explain what the EU and the european MPs were doing etc... Incl the fact that the EU is no more a bunch of unelected bureaucrat than the BRITISH government is. Such level of ignorance...)

Clav
You know where I said to you yesterday bout up to date info ....

Maggie does not cut it

my opinion of Waterside folks is being reinforced

You know where I said to you yesterday bout up to date info...
Maggie does not cut it

I was only proving my point - "Whereas the UK became a large net contributor to the EU budget from about 1980 - we've had many more years to grumble."

Clavinova
SOMEBODY has to be a net contributor
for others to benefit
why is that a bad thing

if all the net contributors to the UK tax system kicked off
mot families would no longer get free schooling and healthcare

redistribution is good

I was only proving my point - "Whereas the UK became a large net contributor to the EU budget from about 1980 - we've had many more years to grumble."

I don't anyone needs any proof that the UK has whinged about the EU for decades.

I think all Clav proves is that even Thatcher had to bullshit in order to keep her anti-European wing in check.

if all the net contributors to the UK tax system kicked off
most families would no longer get free schooling and healthcare

The tax revenue (mostly) stays in the UK though.

Has Clavinova really not heard of Tax Havens? Yes, the money from us plebs stays in the UK......

By Bloomberg Economics reckoning Brexit will have cost us 200 billion by the end of this year.

That almost eclipses the total amount paid into the EU since 1973 (215 billion) even before we’ve left the single market. The true cost will be significantly higher.

If contributions was the main driver for your Brexit vote Clav, the maths doesn’t up.

My early morning catch up reminding me that Clavinova is a useful idiot from the point of view of the rest of us as her relentless barrage of shiny scattergun factoids prompt detailed reasoned responses that show them up for the superficialities that they are.

@borntobequiet

My early morning catch up reminding me that Clavinova is a useful idiot from the point of view of the rest of us as her relentless barrage of shiny scattergun factoids prompt detailed reasoned responses that show them up for the superficialities that they are.

Or I can help clutter up the thread with, I hope, a bunch of more entertaining scattergun factoids than hers, which have about as much relevance to the points she thinks she’s making.

Elements What is the origin of "scattergun"? asking for a friend

I'll end up kicking myself for not ordering my kitchen floor earlier.

www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/07/builders-run-short-of-supplies-as-uk-port-holdups-raise-brexit-concerns

'net contributions' only tot up the monetary values. They don't include what we got for that 0.7% of our gdp and what is going to cost us 4% to replace - and that doesn't include all the agencies we will have to recreate instead of benefitting from EU wide economies of scale.

Neither will it include the additional costs associated with the chumocracy - but they're just the cost of electing a bunch of crooks.

@pussycatinboots
You asked Elements but I'll reply - a scattergun is basically a shotgun. It shoots "shot", small metal balls that scatter over a wide area, which is why it can be so damaging. A single bullet from a rifle might go right through you missing major organs and blood vessels but a shotgun can cause major widespread damage, which is probably why gangsters like them.
Scattergun just sounds better than shotgun in some contexts, such as in the way I used it above.

Negotiations are fucked: they're sending Gove to Brussels today

We had some building work done in the summer and building supplies were difficult then. As were household goods like curtaining. I think primarily due to Covid, so of course, let's improve it with Brexit.

Negotiations are already fucked. If the Tories wanted a deal they’d have one. They seem to want managed No Deal, which isn’t a thing.

Looking at today's newspaper headlines, I see that yet again, Johnson and chums are threatening to walk out of the talks. How many times is that now?

@prettybird

Negotiations are fucked: they're sending Gove to Brussels today

Not Raab?

born similar to the effect of a no deal then - as much damage as pos with little effort.

@Peregrina

Looking at today's newspaper headlines, I see that yet again, Johnson and chums are threatening to walk out of the talks. How many times is that now?

Unless there has been something major we've all missed, regardless of how talks go, the IMB has to go.

I can't help but imagine the UK is acting like a teenager that said they'd tidy their room before using the car, and naively assume because you haven't mentioned it all day, you've forgotten, and it's just as the keys are being handed over and parent says "Oh, no, sorry, you didn't tidy your room" and it all kicks off. With no car.

Precisely, Pussy!

@Peregrina

Looking at today's newspaper headlines, I see that yet again, Johnson and chums are threatening to walk out of the talks. How many times is that now?

Those are for the public and bear little if any relation to reality.

Here's James Cleverly redefining his surname.

Again.

Even if we're stupid enough to buy the tories rewriting history with 'oven ready deal' being reaportioned to the withdrawal agreement, he still hasn't delivered it 'oven ready' has he. He's realised he's left the packaging on and is now trying to redo it before it all goes to shit.

In the Times this morning:

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/food-prices-will-rise-if-we-dont-strike-brexit-trade-deal-says-minister-7283bwrst

Food prices would rise, with beef and pork hit hardest, in the event that Britain fails to reach a trade deal with the European Union, a cabinet minister admitted yesterday.

George Eustice, the environment, food and rural affairs secretary,
insisted the increases would be “modest” but conceded that travel to EU nations would become more complicated and Britons with less than six months’ passport validity faced being denied entry.

He acknowledged that free healthcare could not be guaranteed for UK
visitors to EU countries next month without a trade deal and that drivers would have to show proof of insurance.

It was revealed yesterday that a government contingency document produced in September warns that medicine supplies could drop to between 60 and 80 per cent of normal for three months after a no deal Brexit.

Mr Eustice, who campaigned for Brexit, was asked whether he could keep a promise he made to UK farmers in 2016 that a trade agreement with the EU would continue if it left the bloc. “Well, we will see,” he replied. “Time will tell.”

While the UK’s sheep farmers were “exposed” in a situation in which the EU would impose tariffs on imports, that would throw up “opportunities” for other farmers, he said.

“We’ve been clear for four years now that a no-deal for agriculture is
catastrophic,” Minette Batters, the president of the National Farmers’
Union, told The World This Weekend on BBC Radio 4. “We [would be] priced out of the market. You’d be looking at enormous tariffs on every sector — 62 per cent on lamb, 85 per cent on beef, 51 per cent on malt and barley. It would be very savage and a total cost of £1.36 billion in tariffs.”

(contd)

Time will tell. I'd much rather George fucking useless Eustace told - you know like he's fucking paid to fucking do the fucking Tory fucker.

That should give their fucking bots some fucking thinking to fucking do with their fucking analytics and fucking positive and fucking negative keyword counts. Fucking fuckers.