Westminstenders: a feature of the system not a bug

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Tests on the new queuing system in Kent have revealed that lengthy tail backs are a feature not a bug.

We should get used to them because thats normal not the system malfunctioning, but the planned system working as designed.

Today we have found out that there's no money left. The economy is fucked. And tomorrow we will probably all be in T3 with the Isles of Wight, the tip of Cornwall and inner Westminster the only places left in T1.

Christmas has apparently been 'saved' though. Well if you are dumb and lacking in functional brain cells its 'saved'. Trade for Christmas is already thoroughly goosed and indoor family gatherings may come with a extra side of covid. The BBC have done an epic job of 'doommongering project fear' style graphics on this wonderful subject.

Tis the season to be jolly. Jolly fucked.

Well we shall find out soon enough whether food and medications will be in short supply/unavailable or not is scaremongering, won't we? Believing isn't going to cut it.

I'm sure, as on another thread, I shall be told that if my husband dies, my parents sister and me are critically ill because of Brexit that I'm just whinging and moaning.

Fuck the collateral damage to me and the rest of us.

I haven't yet found a freight forwarder, or haulier, or customs agent making positive reports of what's coming in January.

But surely - there must be quite a downturn in volume of work in January generally - compared to November and December? Most retail businesses are trying to shift their end of season stock in January.

You're so sweet, Clav. With your farm shop life and your refusal to even entertain the possibility that there might be a bit of a snagoo.

Yeah, hauliers are super quiet in January, that's when the UK produces the most homegrown food isn't it?

How will businesses meet the need then? There's a lack of hauliers in Europe. The only way they will "meet the need" is by charging a lot of money to make the trip. Poor people simply won't be able to afford what they need, surely?

How will businesses meet the need then? There's a lack of hauliers in Europe.

10% of HGV drivers in the UK are still on furlough according to an article I read yesterday - and that might not include self-employed agency drivers.

"June - DFDS cuts jobs and warns Covid-19 freight levels could become the “new normal.”

"Shipping giant DFDS is set to cull around 86 UK warehousing and logistics jobs as part of major cutbacks across the company as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic. A total of 86 UK posts have been placed into consultation, with 650 jobs to go across DFDS’ entire European operations. Announcing the cuts, MD Andrew Byrne said the company was not expecting freight and passenger numbers to bounce back as the economy emerges out of the pandemic..."

motortransport.co.uk/blog/2020/06/29/dfds-cuts-jobs-and-warns-covid-19-freight-levels-could-become-the-new-normal/

clav
But surely - there must be quite a downturn in volume of work in January generally - compared to November and December? Most retail businesses are trying to shift their end of season stock in January.
Oh bless
going back decades
January is when the warehouses are refilled
is that really news ?

I had a totally different experience, my local shops were very low on fresh items, dairy, meat and tinned items at various times at the end of March and start of April.

Clav Out of interest and I'm not trying to be snarky, if you are quite rural (guessing from the farm shop but could be wrong), do you feel like you are quite insulated from seeing poverty and its effects? I've lived in cities and rural areas, in the cities I've lived in both nice areas and sketchy areas on the outskirts of some very deprived areas. So I've seen it and lived around it and it is something I factor into how I view politics. I know there is poverty in rural areas, but it is nowhere as frequent or as obvious as in urban areas.

A lot of people are living on the edge at the moment. Most of them are working. How will this affect them?

🐿 Marie-Antoinette probably didn’t say “Let them eat cake” when told that her poor subjects had no bread. The callous sentiment had been attributed to various of the wealthy and powerful, to demonstrate how they were oblivious to their privilege, on many occasions prior. The first person to print the specific sentence “Qu’ils mangent de la brioche” may have been the philosopher Jean-Jacques Rousseau in his Confessions (circa 1766), attributing it to “a great princess.” At the time though, Marie-Antoinette was still a child.

However, it appears that grown adults on these threads in 2020 say things like "Let them stroll to farm shops" and, presumably, "Let them not think about insulin supplies" - this, however, in no way demonstrates that they are oblivious to their ToryBrexitannianNationalPlague privileged position, OK? 🐿

January is when the warehouses are refilled is that really news?

I can't see how the logistics demand in an average January is going to be as much as in an average December. And then we've got the Covid recession so less demand for goods.

This freight forwarding agent seems to be on the ball;

"Seeking advice from both Descartes and the Government’s Customs Grant Scheme, Tuscor Lloyds has adopted Descartes’ e-Customs solution to ensure the complicated customs declaration processes will be as straightforward as possible post-Brexit to prevent any unnecessary supply chain delays and maintain processes as close to ‘business as usual’ as possible."

www.multimodal.org.uk/article/tuscor-lloyds-readies-brexit-using-descartes-e-customs

There are varieties of cakeism - have your cake and eat it, let them eat cake etc - but they all boil down to a sense of entitlement.

Did Clav just suggest that the COVID recession would be a good thing in terms of January's inevitable Brexit restocking problems because hey, people wouldn't be able to afford food anyway?

Clav Out of interest and I'm not trying to be snarky, if you are quite rural (guessing from the farm shop but could be wrong

Edge of rural and town - I can walk to Waitrose as well.

Clav is lucky to have both the resources and time to not give a shit
the people of the Waterside let the English Civil war pass them by
their kind lives on

“Qu’ils mangent de la brioche”

I thought that this was one of the great misunderstandings of history. Apparently if there was a shortage of the basic bread the Parisian bakers were required by law to sell the next product at the basic price. So she was really telling them to sell their brioche for the price of the standard loaf.

In the same way that Canute didn't really try to hold back the tide - he was trying to show that even the King's power was limited.

@pointythings yes that’s about right.

It was like a squirrel, but with covid!😳

I thought that this was one of the great misunderstandings of history.

To be fair, maybe it wasn't a misunderstanding after all. If a 21st century apparently functional adult can flippantly wave off the poor and sick with "Let them stroll to Waitrose and the organic artisan farm shop from their country pile" why would we expect better from an 18th century sheltered princess?

In Our Time did a great episode on Marie Antoinette.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000117y

[quote SabrinaThwaite]In Our Time did a great episode on Marie Antoinette.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000117y[/quote]
Oh, I must listen to that!

Well I don't get it. If we are all just scaremongering on this thread, why is Clav on it too?

Clearly we are obstinate in persisting with our beliefs that the end of transition with or without a hard Brexit deal and leaving the SM/CU will result in some largely unpleasant and unnecessary changes. Fine, then leave us to it. No need to take the time to constantly tell us how wrong we are because in a very short time we will all find out.

Perhaps start up the Brexit Arms again for a celebratory drink ahead of the great unveiling on January 1st and everyone can look forward to telling the Westminstenders how wonderful sunlit lands are and how wrong we were to stockpile.

Reduction is supply means increase in price unless demand decreases at the same rate. simple as that. People need to eat all year round, if they cant afford the price increases they can't buy the item. In this case food. How is that square to be circled I wonder.

In the same way that Canute didn't really try to hold back the tide - he was trying to show that even the King's power was limited.

The weirdest thing is I learned that so young (and at school) that it's a mystery to me that anyone could not know it's point.

And isn't it Cnut ?